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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BallBoy on November 20, 2012, 02:29:06 PM

Title: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: BallBoy on November 20, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
Vander has 11pts on 5-7 shooting and 1-2 3pt.  2 assts and one steal through the 1st half.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Goose on November 20, 2012, 02:30:49 PM
Breakout year!!!!
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 20, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
Okay, didnt some of us say he would be fine? But lets wait till the season is over...
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: MarsupialMadness on November 20, 2012, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on November 19, 2012, 03:58:10 PM
I believe in Vander 13lue.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: brewcity77 on November 20, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Still only two games, and Mississippi State is probably the worst team we've played so far. Close between them and Colgate.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: BallBoy on November 20, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Still only two games, and Mississippi State is probably the worst team we've played so far. Close between them and Colgate.

Not that I disagree with you but I think the amount of crap he took after 2 games deserved some reward.  
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: only a warrior on November 20, 2012, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: BallBoy on November 20, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Not that I disagree with you but I think the amount of crap he took after 2 games desired some reward. 

He also deserved some reward as well as desired it!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: brewcity77 on November 20, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
Quote from: BallBoy on November 20, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Not that I disagree with you but I think the amount of crap he took after 2 games desired some reward. 

The crap he took after 2 games was unjust, but I have a feeling the credit he'll get after 2 good games will also be unjust.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Bocephys on November 20, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
The crap he took after 2 games was unjust, but I have a feeling the credit he'll get after 2 good games will also be unjust.

Vander Blue, where no topic ever does his play justice.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on November 20, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
5-11 on three pointers this season. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Goose on November 20, 2012, 03:41:22 PM
What, no rebounds?
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: MileHigh on November 20, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
Let's see if he can shoot on the mainland when the team gets home!

But seriously, good for him.  Hope this is the turning point.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: boyonthedock on November 20, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
to be fair, he did play awful those first 2 games, and very well these last 2. It is not hating nor slurping to acknowledge this.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: brewcity77 on November 20, 2012, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: boyonthedock on November 20, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
to be fair, he did play awful those first 2 games, and very well these last 2. It is not hating nor slurping to acknowledge this.

No, he didn't. The shots didn't fall those first two games. They did these last two. It's a difference of inches, his game and shot selection has been pretty much the same.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: BCHoopster on November 20, 2012, 03:55:23 PM
Saw the first half, he looked 110% percent better shooting then in the past.  His shot looks much better.  He is very important to this years team, nice to see Jamil playing better,
not sure on the half court offense yet, to much dribbling and standing around.  Best offense is to run.  Gardner has to be more decisive on passing, can not hold the ball.  This game
was good for them, after a tough lose, a simple victory.  The schedule was to difficult to open with anyway, this team needs some seasoning.  Has some talent.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Goose on November 20, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
I would think if Gardner was better dishing we could get a ton of slashing baskets. More passing by him opens everything up.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: NersEllenson on November 20, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Most encouraging is seeing Vander score in the halfcourt - not sure any of his points today were in transition.  First time I recall seeing him hit midrange shots off the bounce.  Obviously hit 3's in the halfcourt as well.

These 2 games are a huge step in the right direction, and go along way toward alleviating my biggest issues with his play:  generally the lack of ability to score in the halfcourt.  
Let's hope he keeps it up..if he can play at 75-85% of what he's been these last 2 games...MU will be very good this year.

Congrats to Vander...and those who have been his staunchest supporters...BrewCity, Sultan, etc.  
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 20, 2012, 04:13:06 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 20, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Most encouraging is seeing Vander score in the halfcourt - not sure any of his points today were in transition.  First time I recall seeing him hit midrange shots off the bounce.  Obviously hit 3's in the halfcourt as well.

These 2 games are a huge step in the right direction, and go along way toward alleviating my biggest issues with his play:  generally the lack of ability to score in the halfcourt.  
Let's hope he keeps it up..if he can play at 75-85% of what he's been these last 2 games...MU will be very good this year.

Congrats to Vander...and those who have been his staunchest supporters...BrewCity, Sultan, etc.  

Me!
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: NersEllenson on November 20, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 20, 2012, 04:13:06 PM
Me!

And you Hards...and I believe PTM, TallTitan, and a few others..
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: MU82 on November 20, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Do we have to have a "Vander haters" thread every time he has a good game?

If he has a bad game, do the haters respond with "Where are all you Vander lovers" thread?

Can't we all just get along?

Nahhhh.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: 🏀 on November 20, 2012, 05:58:38 PM
Nothing beats shoving some crap right back into the faces of the racist students who hate Vander on this board.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: ErickJD08 on November 20, 2012, 06:11:05 PM
Blue played like a different player.  He is actually finishing around the rim.  I have said it time and time again.  If he learns how to finish, he can easily score 12 points a night.  He still looks a little awkward around the rim in that sometimes he rushes or uses the wrong hand, but its progress none the less.  I hope he builds on today.  We are gonna need him.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 20, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: PTM on November 20, 2012, 05:58:38 PM
Nothing beats shoving some crap right back into the faces of the racist students who hate Vander on this board.
If you don't care for Vander you're a racist? Good grief.

Nice game by him...hope he can keep it up.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: 🏀 on November 20, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 20, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
If you don't care for Vander you're a racist? Good grief.

Nice game by him...hope he can keep it up.

No, but many Vander haters are racist and students.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2012, 06:36:32 PM
Vander is really coming into his own. He made some really pressing plays but seems to have cut down on his mistakes (ergo, he's playing smarter). And that shot of his looks waaaaayyyy more balanced and in rhythm.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 20, 2012, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: PTM on November 20, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
No, but many Vander haters are racist and students.
So if these people dislike Vander, but root for Otule or Junior or Juan, etc., are they still racists?
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 20, 2012, 08:00:13 PM
Quote from: ErickJD08 on November 20, 2012, 06:11:05 PM
Blue played like a different player.  He is actually finishing around the rim.  I have said it time and time again.  If he learns how to finish, he can easily score 12 points a night.  He still looks a little awkward around the rim in that sometimes he rushes or uses the wrong hand, but its progress none the less.  I hope he builds on today.  We are gonna need him.

You are right, and like several people have said before, finishing ability (strength and touch) and shooting ability usually get better with age/experience.

Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: Benny B on November 20, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
No need to play the race card... let's all just agree that Vander haters could benefit from some ED pharms.
Title: Re: Vander Haters Part 2
Post by: AZWarrior on November 20, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
I've not been a hater though I have criticized Blue for not developing a viable jump shot by now.  Granted it's early but I will be truly delighted to eat my words.  I intend to marinade them in a wine sauce.   ;)
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