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Title: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: JoBo2756 on November 03, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Hey Gang,

Love the news on Triple J!

Wanted to see if this is going to be a problem for Lockett this year, or if we should be in good shape? With this rule, Lockett wouldn't be able to play at MU from what I understand about his situation right?

See link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8584690/ncaa-putting-restriction-athletes-want-play-immediately-transferring

I'm guessing since he was already granted the transfer, we should be fine, but wanted to get the groups thoughts. ?-(


Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Skitch on November 03, 2012, 10:56:43 PM
I don't really think they can go back and retroactively change the rule.  I would assume that this would start next season at the earliest.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: spartan3186 on November 03, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't matter anyway. Lockett graduated from ASU and is (presumably) pursuing a Masters in something they didn't have at ASU. Same thing Paulus did when he graduated from Duke and played QB at Syracuse.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: JoBo2756 on November 03, 2012, 11:03:43 PM
Gotcha. I was under the impression that his Mom had an extended illness that allowed him to transfer to MU. I think he is from Minnesota right?
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: chapman on November 04, 2012, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: spartan3186 on November 03, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't matter anyway. Lockett graduated from ASU and is (presumably) pursuing a Masters in something they didn't have at ASU. Same thing Paulus did when he graduated from Duke and played QB at Syracuse.

Yep, until they change the graduation rule, being closer to family was a factor for Lockett but wasn't necessary for the NCAA.  A lot of coaches apparently think they should change this as well, though I'm a fan of rewarding players who graduate, especially if it's a situation like Lockett where it only took three years.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Benny B on November 04, 2012, 07:33:19 AM
Quote from: chapman on November 04, 2012, 12:23:44 AM
Yep, until they change the graduation rule, being closer to family was a factor for Lockett but wasn't necessary for the NCAA.  A lot of coaches apparently think they should change this as well, though I'm a fan of rewarding players who graduate, especially if it's a situation like Lockett where it only took three years.

Agreed. NCAA doesn't need to be in the business of telling student athletes their business once they graduate.  If you earn a bachelors and still have eligibility left, you should have the right to enroll & play anywhere you want.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: GGGG on November 04, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: brewcity77 on November 04, 2012, 07:40:15 AM
I would hope they'd make an exception. I'm sure within the next couple years that situation will come up.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: bilsu on November 04, 2012, 09:36:01 AM
Quote from: JoBo2756 on November 03, 2012, 11:03:43 PM
Gotcha. I was under the impression that his Mom had an extended illness that allowed him to transfer to MU. I think he is from Minnesota right?
He liked Arizona St and would have stayed there, if his mon was healthly.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: MerrittsMustache on November 04, 2012, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 04, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???

It's good to have a black and white rule, but doesn't this open the door to families moving from, say, California to Lexington so that the son can transfer from to Kentucky to play basketball? Not saying it would be all that likely, but some families may move a sick relative if they think that a son bettering his chances to play professionally would help with the bills.

Also, what constitutes being "ailing or injured"?

I really do like the concept of the rule but maybe I'm just too cynical to think it won't be abused somehow.

Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: bilsu on November 04, 2012, 12:45:59 PM
I just do not see the need for the rule itself. Players should have to sit out the year no matter what. It seems to me that a player sitting out a year would have more time to spend with a sick relative then one that would be allowed to play right away.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Benny B on November 04, 2012, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 04, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???

Or a fencer from Biloxi?  Or a skiier from Tampa?

Then either take a year off to spend with your family or keep playing where you are and hope that grammy doesn't die until after graduation.

Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 04, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Coaches can coach immediately. Players should be able to play immediately.
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 04, 2012, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on November 04, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Coaches can coach immediately. Players should be able to play immediately.

BINGO!
Title: Re: ESPN: New Restriction on Transfer Students
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 04, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 04, 2012, 10:32:35 AM
It's good to have a black and white rule, but doesn't this open the door to families moving from, say, California to Lexington so that the son can transfer from to Kentucky to play basketball? Not saying it would be all that likely, but some families may move a sick relative if they think that a son bettering his chances to play professionally would help with the bills.

Also, what constitutes being "ailing or injured"?

I really do like the concept of the rule but maybe I'm just too cynical realistic to think it won't be abused somehow.



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