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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jsglow on November 01, 2012, 01:42:27 PM

Title: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: jsglow on November 01, 2012, 01:42:27 PM
Does that make the 2013 recruiting class the greatest (at least in terms of initial potential) in MU history?

- Burton (SF)
- Duane Wilson (PG)
- Dawson (PG)
- Embiid (C)
- J. Johnson (SG)
- McKay (PF)

My goodness, half the Big East would consider starting all 5 (with Dawson seeing some minutes) on Day #1.  And if you mention the '77 class that includes Bill Neary... 
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: The Lens on November 01, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
I'll be happy if just Burton and Wilson sign.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: 🏀 on November 01, 2012, 01:49:21 PM
It's a stacked class, but let's not count chicken hawks before they hatch.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: brewcity77 on November 01, 2012, 01:52:01 PM
It would certainly be the best class I can recall, and would almost certainly lock us into the top-5. No way we pass a Kentucky class that already has 3 top-5 prospects, and unlikely we finish ahead of a Florida class with 2 in the top-10, but I'd put that class up against anyone else.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 01, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
If that comes to frution, it has to be the best on paper at least since Al, with super athletic Top 50 caliber players at positions 1-5 and a nice complementary 1/2 combo who could turn out to be a major sleeper.  Oh god, I've already convinced myself this is happening.  That never works out well.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: jsglow on November 01, 2012, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: Jamailman on November 01, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
If that comes to frution, it has to be the best on paper at least since Al, with super athletic Top 50 caliber players at positions 1-5 and a nice complementary 1/2 combo who could turn out to be a major sleeper.  Oh god, I've already convinced myself this is happening.  That never works out well.

Easily best since Al but I gave the Bill Neary example for a reason. (And I really liked Neary.  His job was to keep Toone on the bench next to Al so coach could yell at him.)  

I'd be very hard pressed to find a better total class.  Individual player or two, sure.  Whitehead, Toone and Ulice starting in the '76 season, for example.  Perhaps that group that started in '73 that originally included Lucas, Tatum, Homan, Delsman, and, yes Bill Neary.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: bilsu on November 01, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Al signed one star a year and surrounded them with transfers and lesser recruits. I would say Chones, McGuire and Fraser(sp) was his best freshmen class.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Nukem2 on November 01, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: bilsu on November 01, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Al signed one star a year and surrounded them with transfers and lesser recruits. I would say Chones, McGuire and Fraser(sp) was his best freshmen class.
That's George Frazier...
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: GoMarquette32 on November 01, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: jsglow on November 01, 2012, 01:42:27 PM
Does that make the 2013 recruiting class the greatest (at least in terms of initial potential) in MU history?

- Burton (SF)
- Duane Wilson (PG)
- Dawson (PG)
- Embiid (C)
- J. Johnson (SG)
- McKay (PF)

My goodness, half the Big East would consider starting all 5 (with Dawson seeing some minutes) on Day #1.  And if you mention the '77 class that includes Bill Neary... 
Ive heard from a very reliable source that Dawson would be a no doubter top 100 player if he lived in an area with a better aau circuit.  Thought to be on par with Duane Wilson.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: AZWarrior on November 01, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on November 01, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
Ive heard from a very reliable source that Dawson would be a no doubter top 100 player if he lived in an area with a better aau circuit.  Thought to be on par with Duane Wilson.

So why must the source remain nameless?
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 01, 2012, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 01, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
That's George Frazier...

Sugar. Great Al story about him. He stormed into McGuire's office one day demanding more playing time - "Coach, how come I'm not starting? I'm just as good as Allie!" Al responds, "Sugar, you got a point. One problem - Allie's my son, so bein' as good as him just isn't quite enough."
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 01, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on November 01, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
So why must the source remain nameless?

Because nobody would recognize the name.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: jsglow on November 01, 2012, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 01, 2012, 04:34:59 PM
Sugar. Great Al story about him. He stormed into McGuire's office one day demanding more playing time - "Coach, how come I'm not starting? I'm just as good as Allie!" Al responds, "Sugar, you got a point. One problem - Allie's my son, so bein' as good as him just isn't quite enough."

I vaguely recall that.  Be funny to know how many "Al stories' were actually true.  No disrespect to Allie, he was a very solid player.  Typical coach's kid.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: jsglow on November 02, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
That's 1.  Joel, we'd welcome you too.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Wade for President on November 02, 2012, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: jsglow on November 02, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
That's 1.  Joel, we'd welcome you too.

+1
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: BubbaWilliams on November 02, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
The weather is supposed to be fairly nice in Milwaukee. Perhaps, with Jojo being from Cameroon, this will play in our favor.
Title: Re: If Embiid and Johnson both sign ...
Post by: Secret of the Ouse on November 02, 2012, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: BRMU23 on November 02, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
The weather is supposed to be fairly nice in Milwaukee. Perhaps, with Jojo being from Cameroon, this will play in our favor.

Cram it, BR.
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