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Title: There Is Hope For Travis
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 15, 2007, 12:30:05 PM
The bad news is the Bucks greatly overpaid for often injured, no D, Mo Williams. The good news is Diener could be in the $52 mil, 6 year club depending on the club he next hooks up with.
As I see it, the only difference between Williams and Diener to this point is that Mo got a chance with a new team and made the most of it. Here's hoping the breaks start falling Travis' way.
Title: Re: There Is Hope For Travis
Post by: Murffieus on July 15, 2007, 01:26:10 PM
Williams is not the liability that TD is on defense. TD can't stay in front of the quick NBA guards! Also Williams is quite a bit stronger !
Title: Re: There Is Hope For Travis
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 15, 2007, 01:49:06 PM
6 years, $52 million for Diener?!? You sure are smoking the loco weed ;)...that's Jim McIlvaine money!!!

I would say a 1 or 2 year, $4-7 million deal.

MoWill is a potential all-star (never a first team though). He has more skills and strengths than Diener.

Diener is your heady, back-up point guard who will not turn the ball over against the opponent's reserves and surprise you - much like Chris Crawford did against the Knicks in the playoffs.
Title: 77, Do You Have A...
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 15, 2007, 02:24:22 PM
reading comprehension problem? No one said Diener is worthy of Mo's contract right now. What was intended by the post was this; Mo Williams was signed by the Bucks as a restricted free agent after wasting a year as a second roung pick of the Jazz. He got an opportunity with the Bucks and took advantage of it. Three years later, a big time, set for life, contract came his way.
While I know timing is everything in life, I could see the same thing happening for Travis at this time, i.e., new team and an opportunity to play whereby his next contract 2-3 years from now would result in essentially "winning the lottery." Comprehendo?
Title: Re: 77, Do You Have A...
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 16, 2007, 12:47:04 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 15, 2007, 02:24:22 PM
reading comprehension problem? No one said Diener is worthy of Mo's contract right now. What was intended by the post was this; Mo Williams was signed by the Bucks as a restricted free agent after wasting a year as a second roung pick of the Jazz. He got an opportunity with the Bucks and took advantage of it. Three years later, a big time, set for life, contract came his way.
While I know timing is everything in life, I could see the same thing happening for Travis at this time, i.e., new team and an opportunity to play whereby his next contract 2-3 years from now would result in essentially "winning the lottery." Comprehendo?

Si, yo compriendo todo...here is what I saw:

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 15, 2007, 12:30:05 PM
The good news is Diener could be in the $52 mil, 6 year club depending on the club he next hooks up with.

No doubt Diener is not worthy of Mo's contract, but I do not think he will EVER be worthy. Even with the playing time he *may* get in your scenario, I do not think he will be in the $8.5 mil/year range...
Title: Re: There Is Hope For Travis
Post by: MUWarrior71 on July 16, 2007, 10:43:35 AM
I would NEVER bet against TD.  I don't follow salaries very closely of players outside of Milwaukee, but if a .500 pitcher like Jeff Suppan can earn himself a 40 MM contract near the end of his career, I will not be surprised if TD far exceeds what most think he can earn.
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