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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on October 16, 2012, 08:25:00 AM

Title: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: tower912 on October 16, 2012, 08:25:00 AM
When healthy, I prefer starting Otule and bring DG off of the bench.   Just my opinion.    I like starting defense and bringing offense off of the bench.    The first few minutes are sluggish, the big fella comes in at the first TV TO and the atmosphere changes.    If you do it the other way, and still start out sluggish, what changes for the better when you bring in Otule?    I think the ideal minute breakdown is 15-18 for Otule and 22-25 for DG, with adaptability based on fouls and game flow.     But Otule starts. 
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: brewcity77 on October 16, 2012, 08:28:29 AM
Otule because you set the tone with defense and he gives you a chance to win the tip, and every possession matters. I agree that Gardner will probably get a few more minutes, but I still think Otule should start.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on October 16, 2012, 08:29:46 AM
I agree with this.

It gives Gardner an instant green light on offense.

To open a game, I'd like to get several players involved offensively and move the ball around.

Once DG comes in off the bench, give him as many low post looks that he can get.


Also, Buzz isn't afraid to play match-ups on any given night, so Otule might get 28min. one night, and might only get 15 the next. All depends on the opposition.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: LAMUfan on October 16, 2012, 08:29:55 AM
agreed, Ideally you get Gardner in against the other teams starter early though because he tends to put people in foul trouble which can mess with there rotation going forward.  Early fouls on the other team are nice.  
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: jsglow on October 16, 2012, 08:34:05 AM
Chris starts, in part because of his leadership responsibility.  DG and Mayo are the first two off the bench and will both play 20+ minutes in competitive games.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: bilsu on October 16, 2012, 09:05:43 AM
Otule starts, but Gardner gets twice as many minutes. The ideal thing would be to have Otule draw a foul on the opposing center and then bring Gardner in. I think, especially early in the season, that you will see Otule limited to playing three minute strectches. I think one of the biggest benefits of having Otule is that Gardner now practices against a true center.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 16, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: bilsu on October 16, 2012, 09:05:43 AM
Otule starts, but Gardner gets twice as many minutes. The ideal thing would be to have Otule draw a foul on the opposing center and then bring Gardner in. I think, especially early in the season, that you will see Otule limited to playing three minute strectches. I think one of the biggest benefits of having Otule is that Gardner now practices against a true center.

I can agree with some of this, but I think a lot of people are underestimating CO's ability to get put backs and score.

Honestly, I think the split is more like 50/50 but obviously they will both be on the floor off and on.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Bocephys on October 16, 2012, 01:26:31 PM
It's got to be Chris just so we have a chance at winning the tip.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: BubbaWilliams on October 16, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
Are they both healthy? If so, I would agree with the board and start Chris.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on October 16, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
As for playing time, I think there may be a few opponents where it will be beneficial to have CO play more because his post D will be needed.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 16, 2012, 06:23:34 PM
Definitely Otule, for the tipoff alone.  Then as a rule of thumb (obviously change based on matchups and foul situations, etc.) play 12-18 while Davante gets 22-28.  I'd like to see Davante put up at minimum 10 shot attempts per game this year, which would include trips to the FT line (2 FTs not from an "and one" = 1 attempt).  But I like having not just a shot at winning the tip, but a very good chance at it, as well as starting with D and wearing the other starting big man down for Davante to come in fresh and feast on.
Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on October 16, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
I think Jamil could win some tips if that is really a concern.

Title: Re: Who do you want to see start at the 5?
Post by: Daniel on October 16, 2012, 08:18:33 PM
Otule will start at the 5, I am sure.
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