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Title: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on September 21, 2012, 09:24:24 PM
Congrats Jerel!

http://www.hoopsworld.com/raptors-sign-jerel-mcneal-chris-wright/
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: brewcity77 on September 21, 2012, 09:37:35 PM
Great news! Any idea how good his odds are of making the team?
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: seakm4 on September 24, 2012, 09:50:08 AM
good for him.  I always loved watching him play the passing lanes on D
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: GOO on September 24, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Is this a guaranteed contract?
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Skatastrophy on September 24, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
Quote from: GOO on September 24, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Is this a guaranteed contract?

Doesn't look like it, but I don't know much about the NBA

http://www.raptorshq.com/2012/9/21/3369726/raptors-sign-jerel-mcneal-and-chris-wright
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: GOO on September 24, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Is this a guaranteed contract?

Nope. Jerel is guaranteed nothing.

This is routine business in the NBA. Teams invite lots of players to camp to provide depth for workouts. Every once in a blue moon, a player impresses enough to make a team, as Matthews did.

Unfortunately for Jerel, he is a classic tweener guard: not a good enough handle or passing ability to play the 1, too short and not a sweet enough 3-point stroke to play the 2.

Yet another example of a great college player who isn't quite good enough for the NBA. There's no shame in that, and there's money to be made overseas.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Nope. Jerel is guaranteed nothing.

This is routine business in the NBA. Teams invite lots of players to camp to provide depth for workouts. Every once in a blue moon, a player impresses enough to make a team, as Matthews did.

Unfortunately for Jerel, he is a classic tweener guard: not a good enough handle or passing ability to play the 1, too short and not a sweet enough 3-point stroke to play the 2.

Yet another example of a great college player who isn't quite good enough for the NBA. There's no shame in that, and there's money to be made overseas.


Well, that's all a player can ask for.  Just play your ass off and try to make a roster. 


Refresh my memory--didn't some expert on winning, whose mouth was wide open, claim that playing overseas is for losers, and is the equivalent of bagging groceries?
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Litehouse on September 24, 2012, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2012, 11:32:08 AM
Nope. Jerel is guaranteed nothing.

This is routine business in the NBA. Teams invite lots of players to camp to provide depth for workouts. Every once in a blue moon, a player impresses enough to make a team, as Matthews did.

Unfortunately for Jerel, he is a classic tweener guard: not a good enough handle or passing ability to play the 1, too short and not a sweet enough 3-point stroke to play the 2.

Yet another example of a great college player who isn't quite good enough for the NBA. There's no shame in that, and there's money to be made overseas.


This just looks like the general comments that have always been there for Jerel.  Does anyone know anything specifically about the Raptors roster situation?  How deep are they at guard?  What are his chances of catching on at the end of the bench?
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
Guards listed currently on Raptors' roster:

DeMar DeRozan,  Landry Fields,  Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, John Lucas III, Terrence Ross, Ben Uzoh.

Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 24, 2012, 01:35:20 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
Guards listed currently on Raptors' roster:

DeMar DeRozan,  Landry Fields,  Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, John Lucas III, Terrence Ross, Ben Uzoh.



Not exactly a list of Hall of Famers. Jerel probably won't get a better chance.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Agreed.  Jerel has a pretty damn good shot.

The only players on that list that make me want to buy a ticket would be DeRozan (spectacular dunking ability) and Terrence Ross (I think we all saw how absurd that 360 alley oop was against us in MSG.)  Then again, I'd be buying a ticket to watch the Raptors.  Guh. 
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: martyconlonontherun on September 24, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Agreed.  Jerel has a pretty damn good shot.

The only players on that list that make me want to buy a ticket would be DeRozan (spectacular dunking ability) and Terrence Ross (I think we all saw how absurd that 360 alley oop was against us in MSG.)  Then again, I'd be buying a ticket to watch the Raptors.  Guh. 

I think we have different definition of damn good shot.
He would have to beat out guys they already invested in through money or draft picks
Jose Manuel Calderon $10,561,985
Kyle Lowry $5,750,000 $6,210,000
Landry Fields $5,000,000 $5,225,000 $8,500,000
DeMar DeRozan $3,344,250 $4,531,458
Terrence Ross $2,563,320 $2,678,640
John Lucas $1,500,000 $1,567,500
Quincy Acy 2nd round pick
Who do the Raptors cut?

And beat out other training camp signees in dominique mcguire and chris wright who have both previously made NBA rosters.


Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: chapman on September 24, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on September 24, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
I think we have different definition of damn good shot.
He would have to beat out guys they already invested in through money or draft picks

Yeah, may not be a list of household names, but they're good enough that Jerel's chances are less than 1%.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on September 24, 2012, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on September 24, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
Guards listed currently on Raptors' roster:

DeMar DeRozan,  Landry Fields,  Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, John Lucas III, Terrence Ross, Ben Uzoh.

These signings put them at 18 players total I believe, and only 15 can be on a team. Fields, DeRozan, Lowry, Ross, and Calderon are all guaranteed to be on the roster. Lucas is living off of that one amazing summer league he had a year or two ago, and I don't even know who Uzoh is. Jerel will have to work his butt off to get past the preseason (if he even gets there) and make the team as a 3rd string pg/sg. I really hope he does but the chances are slim.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 24, 2012, 07:03:39 PM
Ben Uzoh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Uzoh): not to be confused with Ben Eze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Eze) or Ben Dover.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 24, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
Well of course he's somewhat of a longshot - the guy has been out of college for three years and hasn't played one minute in the NBA. That said, this is his best (last?) shot.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
He is more than somewhat of a longshot. He is an extreme longshot. I hope he beats the odds, but his size and skill set are working against him.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 24, 2012, 09:03:56 PM
I'd say he about 8 or 10 -1, somewhat of a longshot. Maybe you're right and he's an EXTREME longshot, like 80 or 100 - 1. Either way, it may be his last, best shot.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: MU82 on September 24, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
Fair enough, Lenny. Now that I re-read my last comment, it was a silly, semantic quibble.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on September 24, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 24, 2012, 09:03:56 PM
I'd say he about 8 or 10 -1, somewhat of a longshot. Maybe you're right and he's an EXTREME longshot, like 80 or 100 - 1. Either way, it may be his last, best shot.



(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25249973.jpg)
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 03, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
Just wanted to add this pic:

(http://l.yimg.com/iu/api/res/1.2/kKjdAQRWLUa_5KbFP.IjXw--/YXBwaWQ9eXZpZGVvO2NoPTMzNTtjcj0xO2N3PTUxMjtkeD0xO2R5PTE7Zmk9dWxjcm9wO2g9MzM1O3E9MTAwO3c9NTEy/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_NBA/201210011429521567267-p2.jpg)
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: MauraDay on October 04, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Nice picture! Really hope he can beat the odds ans make the team.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Windyplayer on October 04, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: indymufan on October 04, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Nice picture! Really hope he can beat the odds ans make the team.
I don't know, that less than 1 percent finding has me worried.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: mu_hilltopper on October 13, 2012, 10:44:30 PM
Jerel got in for 6 minutes last night. 
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: MUfan12 on October 15, 2012, 12:31:22 PM
Does anyone know if Buycks latched on anywhere for camp? He had a nice summer, but I don't remember hearing about an invite.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Bocephys on October 15, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 15, 2012, 12:31:22 PM
Does anyone know if Buycks latched on anywhere for camp? He had a nice summer, but I don't remember hearing about an invite.

France apparently.  http://www.projectspurs.com/2012-articles/august/report-dwight-buycks-to-play-with-bcm-gravelines-in-france.html
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Tigidal on October 25, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Didn't see this mentioned yet... Waived on Tues...

http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/raptors-waive-mcneal-wright/

Raptors Waive McNeal, Wright
By admin, Posted on October 23, 2012
 
The Toronto Raptors announced Monday they have waived guard Jerel McNeal and forward Chris Wright.

McNeal saw action in one preseason outing, while Wright was a DNP-CD for all six games.

The roster now stands at 16. The Raptors continue their preseason schedule Friday at Memphis (8 p.m. ET). Toronto opens the 2012-13 season at home Oct. 31 versus Indiana (7 p.m. ET).
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: brewcity77 on October 25, 2012, 03:21:34 PM
Too bad, it might have been his last best shot at the NBA. He's 25 now, which is probably right around that cut-off where rookies will be given a chance.
Title: Re: McNeal signed by Raptors
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 25, 2012, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 25, 2012, 03:21:34 PM
Too bad, it might have been his last best shot at the NBA. He's 25 now, which is probably right around that cut-off where rookies will be given a chance.

We always knew he was right on the edge.  If Jerel had better ball skills or could play the point he would have had a better shot.

He should do just fine overseas and make a bunch of money doing it.
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