What do you think the interest will be from a MU perspective?
Quote"We're not in Philadelphia anymore so we definitely want Villanova, we want to go to New York with St. John's and keep DePaul and Marquette,'' Brey said. "We will be in the DC area with Maryland, but we'd still like to play Georgetown. Villanova, DePaul, Marquette, St. John's and possibly Georgetown are definitely the five I'd like to do.''
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball)
Quote from: robmufan on September 18, 2012, 12:36:38 PM
What do you think the interest will be from a MU perspective?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball)
The only way they can sell out Joyce for a nonconference game during a weeknight is to schedule MU. I say schedule them for a road game only if they buy us, which they should. Otherwise, a road game at a low end ACC school wont help us. They aren't a rival anymore as far as I am concerned.
I gotta think they keep MU and DePaul. Too much history, too many ties, and regional connections.
I don't think it would hurt MU at all by adding ND as a Non-Conference opponent.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if they end up in a Pre-Season tourney within a couple years of ND leaving.
Quote from: robmufan on September 18, 2012, 12:36:38 PM
What do you think the interest will be from a MU perspective?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8395095/notre-dame-fighting-irish-want-maintain-several-big-east-rivalries-men-college-basketball)
Geeezzzz. He just about named the whole Big East....If ND is that interested in playing all these teams shouldn't they have just stayed in the Big East?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on September 18, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
Geeezzzz. He just about named the whole Big East....If ND is that interested in playing all these teams shouldn't they have just stayed in the Big East?
You're assuming that basketball has something to do with conference affiliation. Understandable given that you are a Marquette fan, but just not true for football schools.
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 18, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
That would be a nice get. Buzz and Brey are friends, correct? Plus, with LW's obvious ND connections, it seems like a real possibility. An issue holding it back could be if the remaining Big East teams decide to refuse games with programs who have left.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 18, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
Seems like a no-brainer if ND is willing to do it. Home and home just like UW and alternate the years so that when we're at UW we host ND and vice versa. That way we've got a consistent basis for non-con games to start with.
Agreed, add in a Home-Home with an SEC opponent and I think it's a good basis for a decent strength of schedule. Also, as teh big east weakens, better OOC opponents will be needed
Quote from: Knight Commission on September 18, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
The only way they can sell out Joyce for a nonconference game during a weeknight is to schedule MU. I say schedule them for a road game only if they buy us, which they should. Otherwise, a road game at a low end ACC school wont help us. They aren't a rival anymore as far as I am concerned.
Not a rivalry??? I think we have played ND in basketball 116 times... second only to WI. On the ND side of the coin we have played them more than any other team. More than Michigan State, Butler, DePaul and IU(68)...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 18, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
In my era ND was definitely more of a rival than UW. This is what I want.
Quote from: robmufan on September 18, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
Agreed, add in a Home-Home with an SEC opponent and I think it's a good basis for a decent strength of schedule. Also, as teh big east weakens, better OOC opponents will be needed
Heck, that might be the end of MU's conference alignment worries... just schedule home & homes with 20 different major programs every year.
Screw Brey and ND. You want to ditch the Big East? Fine, go play with your new ACC buddies. If the Big East is so wonderful, perhaps you should have stayed.
That may be pride talking, but too bad. I'm a fan (not a coach or AD), so I can say what I want.
Go away, ND. You certainly won't make or break MU's schedule.
Either you're with us, or you're against us.
Quote from: Groin_pull on September 18, 2012, 01:56:45 PM
Screw Brey and ND. You want to ditch the Big East? Fine, go play with your new ACC buddies. If the Big East is so wonderful, perhaps you should have stayed.
That may be pride talking, but too bad. I'm a fan (not a coach or AD), so I can say what I want.
Go away, ND. You certainly won't make or break MU's schedule.
I really doubt Brey had any say in the matter. Not that I care.
I would want to keep playing Notre Dame. However, there are not enough home and away series for this to happen unless both schools want to give up extrea home games.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 18, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
+1
I'm sure Brey hates leaving the BEast and his natural rivals. ND should be totally open to a schedule that alternates UW and ND as home dates for us.
Let's also not forget that it'll be a big money maker for MU as it promises an 18,000+ non-conference crowd during the non-UW years. The question is when to schedule the series as UW has that first week of December locked in and you would certainly want the students on campus.
ND needs Marquette. Marquette does not need Notre Dame.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on September 18, 2012, 03:44:52 PM
ND needs Marquette. Marquette does not need Notre Dame.
Welcome DFW. We've played 116 times and the BC would be packed. How is continuing that not in our interest?
Quote from: DFW HOYA on September 18, 2012, 03:44:52 PM
ND needs Marquette. Marquette does not need Notre Dame.
Why do you say that? I don't think either need each other. Having said that, I wouldn't mind scheduling them, although I don't know if I would want to see them take a schedule spot with a Home and home indefinitely.
In fact isn't a long term home and home with ND better than any similar situation? Vandy for 2 years, LSU for 2 years, USC for 2 years, Michigan, etc? Easy choice in my mind.
25 years ago I would have cared if we played them or not. Game changed and there are plenty of other teams I could hate as much as ND. Them bolting to ACC almost makes me want to put them in rearview mirror. All that said, if it continues great and if it takes a break no problem here.
Quote from: jsglow on September 18, 2012, 03:49:57 PM
Welcome DFW. We've played 116 times and the BC would be packed. How is continuing that not in our interest?
Hey... as long as Georgetown is on our side, who needs ND?
Seriously... is Georgetown on our side? If not, then we need to send an envoy to South Bend. Maybe we can send LW there for an "extended" diplomatic mission.
[crickets]
Come on, people. Nothing? These are the jokes. No way would I ever subject anyone to an extended anything in South Bend.
Quote from: LittleMurs on September 18, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
Either you're with us, or you're against agin us.
FIFY
Exact same thing I thought when I read the original.
We don't "need" ND.
However, its important for the same reason as the same as the Cubs need the Cardinals and vice verse. The Packers need the Vikes, and vice verse. Ohio State needs Michigan, and vice verse. The Red Sox need the Yankees, and vice verse. Muhamed Ali needed Joe Frazier......(ok, maybe a bit of a stretch).
These are long standing rivalries that are just plain fun. The fan base gets all worked up in anticipation of these rival games. Its good for the sport, and we all get to get all worked up, before, during, and after these games.
Grew up in SB. Had season tickets going back to the Austin Carr days. I remember when Al showed up at the AC&C when I was a junior in HS. The crowd was livid. Al was playing the crowd as no one else could. That's when I said, eff the golden dome, I'm goin' to Milwaukee!
Full disclosure, it didn't hurt when I got served at the Ardmore as a 17 year old. ;)
Just noticed, this was my 1000th official post! Woo hoo. Yee Haa!! Holy Cow!
Full disclosure....had my 1000th post in the political thread earlier today that Topper axed....what took you soooo long, that thread was 47 pages by time you got to it! ;) Real Chili for every one!
Quote from: LittleMurs on September 18, 2012, 12:50:09 PM
You're assuming that basketball has something to do with conference affiliation. Understandable given that you are a Marquette fan, but just not true for football schools.
That is true in other cases, but since ND is staying independent in football it would seem basketball is the biggest single consideration in their affiliation, and that keeping Syracuse and Pitt while adding Duke, UNC, NC State and others was a factor.
If Swarbrick called up and said: "I need a non football partner to enter into the ACC with..."
Whoever answered the phone at MU would have been in Greensboro before he could say, "....can we count you in?"
Now is not a time to act all high & mighty. Plugging ND opposite of UW would be the best thing MU has done for STH's since joining the Big East.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/19/reports-fenway-park-could-land-uconn-notre-dame-football-game/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/19/reports-fenway-park-could-land-uconn-notre-dame-football-game/)
It looks like they want to play Big East football teams as well.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 18, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
I think MU should still play them. Have them home opposite the years that we play UW at home.
100% perfect idea.
Keep them scheduled. It'll put butts in the seats more than a cupcake and more than a generic BCS home-and-home deal and help the SOS when we're playing Houston and UCF in conference.
If only DePaul could get their stuff together people around here would forget about the MU/ND rivalry quickly.
Unfortunately, that is not happening any time remotely soon.
I doubt that, Marquette and ND have played 116 games only played more games against UWM. Rivalry against ND is way stronger than against Depaul.
Quote from: newsdrms on September 22, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
I doubt that, Marquette and ND have played 116 games only played more games against UWM. Rivalry against ND is way stronger than against Depaul.
Plus, you know, DePaul sucks. Rivalries are made when teams are evenly matched and games are competitive. Volume means nothing.
Quote from: Bocephys on September 22, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
Plus, you know, DePaul sucks. Rivalries are made when teams are evenly matched and games are competitive. Volume means nothing.
How does one reconcile such a definition with the fact that the Bears are still considered a rival of the Packers?
Quote from: Benny B on September 22, 2012, 09:58:05 PM
How does one reconcile such a definition with the fact that the Bears are still considered a rival of the Packers?
Because Lovie is 8-10 against the Packers. He's been competing against them even when his teams aren't as good. And while the Packers have been better for most of the past 20 years, the Bears dominated the 15 or so before that.
Quote from: Knight Commission on September 18, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
They aren't a rival anymore as far as I am concerned.
Maybe not, but I still can't stand them.