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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ATWizJr on September 06, 2012, 06:19:08 AM

Title: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: ATWizJr on September 06, 2012, 06:19:08 AM
Per the Providence Journal. he cannot play this season although he can remain on scholarship and practice with the Friars.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: mug644 on September 06, 2012, 07:00:32 AM
I thought there was no longer any such thing as a partial qualifier.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 06, 2012, 07:40:53 AM
Quote from: mug644 on September 06, 2012, 07:00:32 AM
I thought there was no longer any such thing as a partial qualifier.

Andy Katz at ESPN is also referring to Ledo as a "partial qualifier", so someone else who should know is using that term.  The ESPN story says that if he meets academic requirements next year Ledo will be a redshirt freshman, rather than a sophomore, maybe that's what's changed.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: GGGG on September 06, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
Also, I didn't think the BE allowed partial qualifiers.  The whole thing is odd.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: ATWizJr on September 06, 2012, 08:48:24 AM
With no Ledo or Dunn, PC's class has been decimated, for now.  They may get Dunn and an Arizona transfer back in December.  Still, looks like another down year for the Friars.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: GGGG on September 06, 2012, 08:50:34 AM
It may be a down year for them, but Cooley is turned it up a notch recruiting wise.  When Dunn gets healthy, and if Ledo sticks around, they could be much improved starting in 2013.  I know we are recruiting some people that they are looking at as well.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 06, 2012, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 06, 2012, 08:50:34 AM
It may be a down year for them, but Cooley is turned it up a notch recruiting wise.  When Dunn gets healthy, and if Ledo sticks around, they could be much improved starting in 2013.  I know we are recruiting some people that they are looking at as well.

With Syracuse and Pitt moving on after this year, a step up by Providence in 2013-14 would be a welcomed event.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: mug644 on September 06, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on September 06, 2012, 07:40:53 AM
Andy Katz at ESPN is also referring to Ledo as a "partial qualifier", so someone else who should know is using that term.  The ESPN story says that if he meets academic requirements next year Ledo will be a redshirt freshman, rather than a sophomore, maybe that's what's changed.

That would be different, wouldn't it? Wasn't Wade only given 3 years of eligibility? But wasn't there something about, if after 3 years he could show that he was on track for graduation her could've had a fourth? (Like he would've ever stayed and played for 4 years! But you get my question.)
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Jay Bee on September 06, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Quote from: mug644 on September 06, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
That would be different, wouldn't it? Wasn't Wade only given 3 years of eligibility? But wasn't there something about, if after 3 years he could show that he was on track for graduation her could've had a fourth? (Like he would've ever stayed and played for 4 years! But you get my question.)

There is no such thing as a partial qualifier.  You are a qualifier or a nonqualifier. 

Ledo received a partial waiver.  In addition, if he is on track (loosely described, if he's completed 80% towards his degree after 4 years of school) he would then receive a fourth year.

Technically, he'll be a sophomore next year.. but could have two "senior" years. 

People will call it a partial qualifier and say he's a freshman next year.  Technically incorrect, but the effect may turn out to be the same.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Blackhat on September 06, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
Can a playa get a "whuup whuup" for 2001 academic standards?
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Clam Crowder on September 06, 2012, 04:45:14 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 06, 2012, 08:50:34 AM
It may be a down year for them, but Cooley is turned it up a notch recruiting wise.  When Dunn gets healthy, and if Ledo sticks around, they could be much improved starting in 2013.  I know we are recruiting some people that they are looking at as well.

There is no way Ledo sticks around. The kid is a monster. I think he could pull a Brandon Jennings here.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: brewcity77 on September 06, 2012, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: jhags15 on September 06, 2012, 04:45:14 PM
There is no way Ledo sticks around. The kid is a monster. I think he could pull a Brandon Jennings here.

I agree with the first part, definitely. I don't think Ledo is close to Brandon Jennings level (he was the #1-rated recruit in his class) but I do feel he has surrounded himself with the wrong types of people over and over. There's a reason his recruitment was so troubling and that his qualification has been so troubling. I see him making a grab for the NBA as soon as he has a chance, and would be a bit surprised if he ever played for Providence; if he does, I see him having a Josh Selby-like career.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 06, 2012, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 06, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
There is no such thing as a partial qualifier.  You are a qualifier or a nonqualifier. 

Ledo received a partial waiver.  In addition, if he is on track (loosely described, if he's completed 80% towards his degree after 4 years of school) he would then receive a fourth year.

Technically, he'll be a sophomore next year.. but could have two "senior" years. 

People will call it a partial qualifier and say he's a freshman next year.  Technically incorrect, but the effect may turn out to be the same.

You sir, are most definitely a qualifier.  Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: Clam Crowder on September 07, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2012, 04:55:35 PM
I agree with the first part, definitely. I don't think Ledo is close to Brandon Jennings level (he was the #1-rated recruit in his class) but I do feel he has surrounded himself with the wrong types of people over and over. There's a reason his recruitment was so troubling and that his qualification has been so troubling. I see him making a grab for the NBA as soon as he has a chance, and would be a bit surprised if he ever played for Providence; if he does, I see him having a Josh Selby-like career.

His recruiting ranking would be much higher had he not been at different high schools throughout his playing career, and didn't have the question marks surrounding him. I highly doubt that when he was at my high school, Hendricken, that anyone was sizing him up as a future NBA player. When he went to Kent, and ND Prep he got a little more recognition. This kid is a stud. He is very capable of playing in the NBA. His size is perfect, his talent is great. He was just with the wrong crowd, and is really kind of a thug to begin with. He defintely wont play for PC. Im interested to see what happens.
Title: Re: PC's Ledo a partial qualifier
Post by: ATWizJr on September 07, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
That's Bishop Hendricken, if you please.
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