from the State of Washington. I think he is recruiting the same kid to Washington that MU is recruiting in California? Just a hunch.
Jeff Goodman said Jerry Wainwright is likely filling Monarch's position.
LW better put the new guy through an independent interrogation committee.
Seems like just sliding JW over for now makes the most sense. He's also got HC experience so would be a good fit to take over the team for the one game suspension. Long-term we'll put in a more exhaustive search, as we did for Chew, but short-term, no reason to try to rush this. Wainright knows his way around.
The only question I have about the suspension is whether the game counts on Buzz's won/loss record?
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 28, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
Seems like just sliding JW over for now makes the most sense. He's also got HC experience so would be a good fit to take over the team for the one game suspension. Long-term we'll put in a more exhaustive search, as we did for Chew, but short-term, no reason to try to rush this. Wainright knows his way around.
I know JW is a good coach and a good person and hate to say this about him - I cringe thinking about JW leading Marquette as head coach for even one game. Just the memories of seeing him look so defeated while sitting on DePaul's bench doesn't sit right with me.
Despite my initial reaction, I know that he's entirely capable.
Quote from: T-Bone on August 28, 2012, 10:02:47 AM
I know JW is a good coach and a good person and hate to say this about him - I cringe thinking about JW leading Marquette as head coach for even one game. Just the memories of seeing him look so defeated while sitting on DePaul's bench doesn't sit right with me.
Despite my initial reaction, I know that he's entirely capable.
Couldn't agree more. Althought...Jerry has always had that defeated dog look.
(http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b84f69e2012876cb8ff2970c-580wi)
Will JW or whoever is "coach for a day" get Buzz's money if Buzz is docked a days pay? Maybe Another 84 can start a new thread - inquiring minds want to know!
Quote from: T-Bone on August 28, 2012, 10:02:47 AM
I know JW is a good coach and a good person and hate to say this about him - I cringe thinking about JW leading Marquette as head coach for even one game. Just the memories of seeing him look so defeated while sitting on DePaul's bench doesn't sit right with me.
Despite my initial reaction, I know that he's entirely capable.
This is how I picture JW:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/marquettetitan34/IMG_0087.jpg)
And this is how I picture TC:
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/Untitled-1.jpg)
Quote from: T-Bone on August 28, 2012, 10:02:47 AM
I know JW is a good coach and a good person and hate to say this about him - I cringe thinking about JW leading Marquette as head coach for even one game. Just the memories of seeing him look so defeated while sitting on DePaul's bench doesn't sit right with me.
Despite my initial reaction, I know that he's entirely capable.
I understand that, but just think about it in grand scheme terms. First, the team JW coaches for one game will be more talented than any team he has ever coached. Certainly none of his UNC-Wilmington nor Richmond teams had the type of talent we'll have this year, and I'm confident none of his DePaul teams were close to this. He may not quite be stepping into a Ferrari, but after years of driving anything from Yugos to Gremlins, he'll get the keys to a Trans Am.
Second, it's not like Buzz won't be the overseer. He'll make sure the team is well-prepared and has a good scheme, no matter who the opponent. JW doesn't have to gameplan it, he just has to sit on the bench for 40 minutes. And he'll have guys alongside him in Chew and Autry that also know the game and can help get him through it.
Third, it's one game. No matter what happens, it is one game. If we play Syracuse in that one game and get shelled 106-50, we'll still have 31 other games plus the Big East season to earn our NCAA bid. If one game is the difference between us making the tournament and not, then we have something to worry about, but it's a lot bigger than Jerry Wainwright.
I fully realize that right now, especially on this board, we are at Defcon 1 and the pucker factor is maxed, but when you sit back and take a breath, no matter what happens in that one game, it really can't possibly be that bad.
Okay, let's go totally conspiratorial:
Let's assume LW is really a Domer spy commissioned to destroy MU basketball so Notre Dame can continue to pad its win/loss record vs. MU.
Let's also assume all this raising the Bar and embarrassing disclosure is to mess with Buzz' "happy" and get him to leave so LW can bring in his own coach.
Finally, let's assume LW forced Buzz to hire JW and JW is pegged to be the next head coach at MU.
If these things are true (and they very likely are as I have put them in print), then it follows that LW does not intend to turn MU into St. Louis, but rather his ultimate endgame is to make MU DePaul!!!!!
This is bad. Very bad. If JW coaches Buzz' suspension game it will confirm my theory for sure!
... Oh yeah, I forgot. This was all told to me by an source VERY close to the program who really knows what is going on.
Will be an interesting call...Wainwright's been the head coach, and it's one GAME, not one week of prep and practices before the game so you'd think he would be the ideal coach to get us through one game. Then again, Chew is the top assistant. I'd lean toward Wainwright.
I was a head coach.......of two of my daughters' 8th grade teams. My schedule is pretty flexible these days, and I should be able to clear my calendar, as well.
JW couldn't recruit a lick...but he knows how to manage a game. Chew has no experience doing that right now.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 28, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
I understand that, but just think about it in grand scheme terms. First, the team JW coaches for one game will be
...
I fully realize that right now, especially on this board, we are at Defcon 1 and the pucker factor is maxed, but when you sit back and take a breath, no matter what happens in that one game, it really can't possibly be that bad.
Completely agree with all points. Just throwing out gut reaction on JW (possibly - no one knows) sitting on the bench as our head coach.
I am fully confident that he, or whomever else is named HC for that one game, will be just fine.
Quote from: Ruby on August 28, 2012, 04:53:18 PM
Okay, let's go totally conspiratorial:
Finally, let's assume LW forced Buzz to hire JW and JW is pegged to be the next head coach at MU.
This! That's why Crean was forced to bring in Buzz! It's Marquette's MO!
Odds are that when Buzz leaves 1, 2 3 , 4 etc years down the road Wardle will become the coach.
Where can I get some of that action?
Quote from: bilsu on August 29, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Odds are that when Buzz leaves 1, 2 3 , 4 etc years down the road Wardle will become the coach.
Why because he went to marquette? Please no "nepotism". Definitely hasn't earned it and shown he's anywhere near a top candidate.
Quote from: bilsu on August 29, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Odds are that when Buzz leaves 1, 2 3 , 4 etc years down the road Wardle will become the coach.
Brian has to achieve a lot more at Green Bay to get a sniff at a position like Marquette, IMHO. I like Brian, but outside Wisconsin and maybe Chicago, he's a basic unknown.
Quote from: bilsu on August 28, 2012, 09:02:14 AM
The only question I have about the suspension is whether the game counts on Buzz's won/loss record?
No.
Brian Wardle? You did mean in teal, didn't you?
If JW does coach the game they should have him coach it against a bottom feeder like Providence or his old school Depaul, better strategy. Hopefully LW lets them choose the game Buzz misses.
Quote from: bilsu on August 29, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Odds are that when Buzz leaves 1, 2 3 , 4 etc years down the road Wardle will become the coach.
I've never seen a more blatant Crean imitator in my life
Quote from: Goose on August 29, 2012, 02:41:39 PM
Brian Wardle? You did mean in teal, didn't you?
No, I did not mean it to be in teal. Is he ready now to coach MU, I do not think so. However, if the adminisration is tired of Buzz they will go for someone who does not raise feathers. This fits Wardle and I think being a former MU player help gets him in the door. Also, when Crean left the high level coaches MU went for had no interest and I do not think we should just assume they will be jumping at MU this time around. My ideal coach would be Brad Stephens, but he has turned down other jobs, so why would he go to MU. Besides that he is another coach that would leave for Indiana, if the job opened up. I think MU would see Wardle as a lifer instead of another coach that might see us as a stepping stone. Based on that, I think he gets the job. At least he is a head coach. MU's last two hires were assistants.
Brad Stephens turned down 3 mil at Ill. last spring. I wonder what MU would need to pony up?
Quote from: ecc5051 on August 29, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
Brad Stephens turned down 3 mil at Ill. last spring. I wonder what MU would need to pony up?
I think last spring Stephen's was still thinking Crean was going to be shown the door at Indiana. Now barring an NCAA violation Crean will be at Indiana for a very long-time, so Stephens can now give up on coaching at his dream school.
Quote from: bilsu on August 29, 2012, 06:50:01 PM
I think last spring Stephen's was still thinking Crean was going to be shown the door at Indiana. Now barring an NCAA violation Crean will be at Indiana for a very long-time, so Stephens can now give up on coaching at his dream school.
Pretty sure he's referring to Spring 2012, because that's when the Illinois job was open. Crean's return to the Sweet 16 and monster recruiting classes had already solidified he likely wouldn't be leaving Indiana before Stevens was offered the UI job.
Look at JW at his days at UNC-W and Richmond, not DePaul.
Quote from: front row on August 30, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
Look at JW at his days at UNC-W and Richmond, not DePaul.
Yep. Guy can coach. Just could not attract recruits at the BCS level, at least not enough of them.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 28, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
And this is how I picture TC:
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/Untitled-1.jpg)
Hey, he's practicing his "we beat Kentucky" face!