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Title: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: PaintTouches on August 21, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Check out the new policies that will fine you $50 just for possessing alcohol-related paraphernalia. Should make for great student crowds at the BC...

http://www.marquette.edu/osd/policies/alcohol_policy.shtml (http://www.marquette.edu/osd/policies/alcohol_policy.shtml)

Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: real chili 83 on August 21, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
We had lots of level C and D violations on 10 south in Schroeder.  Like the time we snuck 10 kegs through the back door of Saga, down the basement hallway, and straight up the elevator to the 10th floor.  Funny how the elevator was packed full of guys from 10 south on each trip.

Suppose this means that the block party is out this fall.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Clam Crowder on August 21, 2012, 08:05:47 PM
Alot of schools have these fine systems in place already, I am pretty surprised by the move though. Didn't hear about any big issues last year.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 77ncaachamps on August 21, 2012, 08:29:31 PM
Collection? So an empty bottle would be "okay"?
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 21, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
Hate to tell you cats, but we were limited to six half barrels per each side of the floor on Schroeder and were pissed when it was cut from 8 when some kitten from 10 South launched an empty out of the lounge window.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: real chili 83 on August 21, 2012, 09:10:42 PM
Was Flo running Schroeder back then? 
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: MerrittsMustache on August 21, 2012, 09:36:52 PM
We had lots of level C and D violations on 10 south in Schroeder.  Like the time we snuck 10 kegs through the back door of Saga, down the basement hallway, and straight up the elevator to the 10th floor.  Funny how the elevator was packed full of guys from 10 south on each trip.

Suppose this means that the block party is out this fall.

Backdoor? Basement? WEAK! We just put the kegs in the "blue bins," covered them in blankets and walked them right in the front door. Ahhh, good old dorm life.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 🏀 on August 21, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
Yeah, I would have been expended prior to my third alcohol transgression.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: real chili 83 on August 21, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Lotta effin stairs involved!  Kinda havin' to walk uphill to school both ways.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 21, 2012, 09:55:22 PM
Was Flo running Schroeder back then? 
 

"I don't know Flo"...too busy with the kegger residuals to hob nob with the Po Po.  Fr. Naus was the man to head off trouble. I do know that the fog of the holy herb was given a pass, yet, heaven forbid if you fried up a fillet from the butcher (on Wells next to Club Kernan's) on the toaster oven. We used to light up a bowl to cover up the smell of marbleized meat.  

Yes, we were privileged and we took full advantage of it.  Hell, it wasn't until last reunion that I knew Abe Lincoln delivered some speech right outside of Schroeder.  
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: real chili 83 on August 22, 2012, 04:28:04 AM
Ya, Fr. Naus was pretty cool, even if he was from the wrong side of the 10th floor.   ;D  Not sure what year you were on 10 north....perhaphs you might have crossed paths with Warthog.....he was there the year before my two years on 10 south.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: tower912 on August 22, 2012, 06:04:18 AM
The drinking age was lower and in transition when I started at MU so it was all legal then, but under these new regs I wouldn't have made it to Labor Day my freshman year.   
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on August 22, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
I just hope MU's "enforcement" uses the idea of "keeping kids safe" vs eliminating alcohol.

I'm not saying they should turn a blind eye, but if the kids are in their rooms and are relatively quiet, leave them alone.

Now, if they are running up and down the hall with bottles of booze (we did, but whatever), and/or putting themselves in danger (we did this as well) then MU has no choice but to step in.

Kids just have to be smart.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Bocephys on August 22, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
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Category A:

Possession and/or consumption of alcohol by a person under 21
Intoxication of a person, regardless of legal drinking age
Collections of containers that contain or previously contained alcohol
Possession or use of alcohol-related paraphernalia
Misrepresentation of age or possession of false documentation of age

You can't even be drunk in the dorms now?  Yikes.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: GGGG on August 22, 2012, 10:49:14 AM
I really doubt they are going to enforce that too strictly.  If you not causing a problem  they will likely look the other way.  However, if you are yelling or otherwise being a nuisance, they now have a reason to punish you.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Pakuni on August 22, 2012, 10:51:03 AM
You can't even be drunk in the dorms now?  Yikes.

I suspect it'll be more like how police use "public intoxication" statutes. Which is to say, unless you're acting like a complete a**, you probably have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: mu03eng on August 22, 2012, 10:57:37 AM
I expect this is all CYA and they are going to allow wide discretion on this.  I can't imagine they are going to go after someone wearing a Lakefront Brewery tshirt and that is the only offense.  Seems like strange territory to be wondering into for MU
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 🏀 on August 22, 2012, 11:13:14 AM
I expect this is all CYA and they are going to allow wide discretion on this.  I can't imagine they are going to go after someone wearing a Lakefront Brewery tshirt and that is the only offense.  Seems like strange territory to be wondering into for MU

What about having a shot glass in your room?
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: reinko on August 22, 2012, 11:20:48 AM
I really doubt they are going to enforce that too strictly.  If you not causing a problem  they will likely look the other way.  However, if you are yelling or otherwise being a nuisance, they now have a reason to punish you.

Sometimes I wish the Scoop would follow this rule.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Benny B on August 22, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
I expect this is all CYA and they are going to allow wide discretion on this.  I can't imagine they are going to go after someone wearing a Lakefront Brewery tshirt and that is the only offense.  Seems like strange territory to be wondering into for MU

So would a home-brewing kit be an offense?

"I swear, it was just a sweet tasting non-alcoholic concoction of malted grain and crisp, refreshing hops a couple days ago.  I have no idea how all that alcohol got in there."
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Hards Alumni on August 22, 2012, 02:39:25 PM
So would a home-brewing kit be an offense?

"I swear, it was just a sweet tasting non-alcoholic concoction of malted grain and crisp, refreshing hops a couple days ago.  I have no idea how all that alcohol got in there."

Science experiment.

Also, there is just enough room (or there used to be) behind the built in desks in OD to store a crap load of beer.

Pro tip: If you face east, you have a free dumpster out your window.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: mu03eng on August 22, 2012, 03:37:27 PM
What about having a shot glass in your room?

Had a friend across the hall in East that had an Absolute bottle that was a fish tank....clearly that would be banned.

I could see this both as nothing or a new stick for a wet harry cat of an RA to get his/her jollies. busting people
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 22, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
Backdoor? Basement? WEAK! We just put the kegs in the "blue bins," covered them in blankets and walked them right in the front door. Ahhh, good old dorm life.


At Schroder we had an operation.  An "inside man" stood in the basement and someone would sit in the ditch in front of Schroeder and pass cans through the openable window.  Someone else stood on watch on the sidewalk.  Then it was just a simple elevator ride upstairs. 
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: Goose on August 22, 2012, 03:51:07 PM
Well my 18 year old son just moved into the dorm and probably three infractions of some sort already. I better keep a slush fund handy for him so my wife is kept out of the loop.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: MarsupialMadness on August 22, 2012, 04:02:41 PM
Well my 18 year old son just moved into the dorm and probably three infractions of some sort already. I better keep a slush fund handy for him so my wife is kept out of the loop.

^^ good luck to him.

When I was a frosh (8 years ago), kids got written up like crazy.  IMO, Student Affairs has the RA's working like detectives trying to catch kids in the act.  I understand trying to curb underage drinking, especially under your own roof, but I found the policy at most other colleges to be much more lenient -- i.e. if the door is closed and there aren't complaints coming about the room being obnoxious -- you let it be.  You don't knock on the door and then search the room, closets, fridge, garbage cans, etc for beers.  Same story in Schroeder. 

And when you get written up?  You have to do things like appear in front of a student/faculty board of directors of some sort and have them grill you about why you were drinking and how many alcoholic beverages you normally consumer in a given week.  Give me a break.  These are college kids.  Get written up two or three times (in a whole school year, mind you)?  Go talk to the university drug and alcohol abuse counselor and see if you have a binge drinking problem.  Oh, and the university is going to send a letter home to your parents saying they see drug and alcohol habits forming and suggest you seek professional guidance.  Yea, that won't freak your parents out who are paying your tuition -- when really, you're just doing what normal college kids do, which is ocassionally have a couple beers behind closed doors. 
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 22, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
Any new rules with regards to sex in the dorms this year?
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: swoopem on August 22, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
Any new rules with regards to sex in the dorms this year?

Yeah, no condoms...this is a Catholic university
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 22, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
Any new rules with regards to sex in the dorms this year?

You miss o'donnell, aina?
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 22, 2012, 10:26:51 PM
Yeah, I would have been expended prior to my third alcohol transgression.

I believe you were a Category B offense from becoming a grand slam champion.

I wonder if the kickboxing would have qualified...
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 🏀 on August 22, 2012, 10:43:27 PM
I believe you were a Category B offense from becoming a grand slam champion.

I wonder if the kickboxing would have qualified...

I got category B.

 High-risk alcohol use (harm to self, others or property, intoxication requiring medical assessment and/or transportation to medical facility). Harm to self, sure. Didn't someone go to the hospital from Mashuda?

Providing alcohol to a clearly intoxicated person. Same person as before.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: chapman on August 23, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
So, is one empty bottle one violation, or would my collection have each been an individual violation?  Great memory of hauling those garbage bags down to recycling  :D

Guessing they don't enforce this too strictly if kids aren't a nuisance.  Usually the DPS guys at the front desk just made fun of the drunkest kids when they return to the dorms after a night out.  RAs were a little more strict  freshman year, don't know many people who even saw their sophomore year RA more than a couple times.  Better than UW-Madison, where campus police walk up and down the dorms looking for kids to give tickets and are nowhere to be found during Monte Ball-esque beatings on the streets.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: real chili 83 on August 23, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
Wonder if my old dice cup would qualify as alcohol related paraphernalia.  It was the cause of a just a few hangovers.  ;D
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 23, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
I got category B.

 High-risk alcohol use (harm to self, others or property, intoxication requiring medical assessment and/or transportation to medical facility). Harm to self, sure. Didn't someone go to the hospital from Mashuda?

Providing alcohol to a clearly intoxicated person. Same person as before.

I thought the B would only qualify if it was you who went to the hospital. 

Also noteworthy, if the offense above does qualify as a Category B, PTM achieved grandslam status in a single academic year.   
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: robmufan on August 23, 2012, 11:59:06 AM
I thought the B would only qualify if it was you who went to the hospital. 

Also noteworthy, if the offense above does qualify as a Category B, PTM achieved grandslam status in a single academic year.   

And somehow i was always across the hall puking my guts out when all this happened! Thanks a lot PTM!
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: 🏀 on August 23, 2012, 12:10:27 PM
I thought the B would only qualify if it was you who went to the hospital. 

Also noteworthy, if the offense above does qualify as a Category B, PTM achieved grandslam status in a single academic year.   

Can you make me a banner?
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 23, 2012, 02:47:06 PM
So, is one empty bottle one violation, or would my collection have each been an individual violation?  Great memory of hauling those garbage bags down to recycling  :D

Guessing they don't enforce this too strictly if kids aren't a nuisance.  Usually the DPS guys at the front desk just made fun of the drunkest kids when they return to the dorms after a night out.  RAs were a little more strict  freshman year, don't know many people who even saw their sophomore year RA more than a couple times.  Better than UW-Madison, where campus police walk up and down the dorms looking for kids to give tickets and are nowhere to be found during Monte Ball-esque beatings on the streets.

My sophomore year ra smoked grass with us.
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: swoopem on August 23, 2012, 03:05:01 PM
My sophomore year ra smoked grass with us.

My sophomore RA watched us smoke cigs in the common room and didn't do a thing about it, except ask us how our night was going and what we were up to.

The only write up of his 2 years of duty was when he caught my roommate pissing in the hallway one late night. Walking that half a block to the bathroom was just out of the question I guess. 
Title: Re: New Alcohol Policy for Students
Post by: tower912 on August 23, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
My only write up in 3 years of dorm living came during freshman year, when the RA, a Cubs fan, took offense at the non-Cubs fan raising a ruckus when the ball went through Leon Durham's legs.