Wilson 68(14th ranked point guard)
Burton 52
Nunn 54
Matt Thomas with a huge jump to 55
Others Washington 82
Darin Johnson 83
Kam Williams 88
Koenig and Fisher not in top 100
Wilson not as high as some might have thought but still way up from 92 in March
I'm pretty floored Wilson is still so low. Every time you read about an elite tournament, whether EYBL, Peach Jam, or wherever, his is always one of the first names on people's tongues. Outside of Harrison, I'm not sure any PG has looked better from his class this summer.
What's up with Koenig? I thought he was the 2nd coming of John Stockton?
Quote from: MuMark on August 07, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Wilson 68(14th ranked point guard)
Burton 52
Nunn 54
Matt Thomas with a huge jump to 55
Others Washington 82
Darin Johnson 83
Kam Williams 88
Koenig and Fisher not in top 100
Wilson not as high as some might have thought but still way up from 92 in March
So Matt Thomas is in a virtual tie with Kendrick Nunn as a college prospect.
That's worth keeping track of when they reach college.
Quote from: MuMark on August 07, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Wilson 68(14th ranked point guard)
Burton 52
Nunn 54
Matt Thomas with a huge jump to 55
Others Washington 82
Darin Johnson 83
Kam Williams 88
Koenig and Fisher not in top 100
Wilson not as high as some might have thought but still way up from 92 in March
Who is Fisher?
Quote from: Ners on August 08, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Luke Fischer - Going to Indiana.
Going to Indiana—as of now. Wouldn't shock me if he never sets foot on their campus. IU is after some prime players...may not be room for a guy who can't crack the top 100.
Quote from: Groin_pull on August 08, 2012, 12:12:53 PM
Going to Indiana—as of now. Wouldn't shock me if he never sets foot on their campus. IU is after some prime players...may not be room for a guy who can't crack the top 100.
I don't know how much floor time he actually sees, but when talking to McKay earlier in the summer he said all the Indiana people could talk about at the time when he was getting courted was Luke Fischer. They like him a lot. A whole lot. I think he makes it on campus for sure.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 07, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
I'm pretty floored Wilson is still so low. Every time you read about an elite tournament, whether EYBL, Peach Jam, or wherever, his is always one of the first names on people's tongues. Outside of Harrison, I'm not sure any PG has looked better from his class this summer.
See Demetrius Jackson...
Had the pleasure of coaching him a few years back. Great kid, has blown up this summer as he has gotten more exposure. Wish Buzz had gone after him. Although my son said he thinks Wilson is better.
All the big boys are after Jackson now.
Quote from: pux90mex on August 08, 2012, 12:24:19 PM
I don't know how much floor time he actually sees, but when talking to McKay earlier in the summer he said all the Indiana people could talk about at the time when he was getting courted was Luke Fischer. They like him a lot. A whole lot. I think he makes it on campus for sure.
Good for you, young man.
With center's I would not be as focused as focused on top 100, in scouts new rankings only 13 center's made the top 100 and on ESPN only 11 did. Where as 27 shooting guards were in the top 90 in on ESPN. So lots of teams are going to have to take center's outside the top 100. I would say the 11 rated center is a much bigger get at 96 overall compared to the 27 rated SG who was 89.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on August 08, 2012, 12:43:56 PM
See Demetrius Jackson...
Had the pleasure of coaching him a few years back. Great kid, has blown up this summer as he has gotten more exposure. Wish Buzz had gone after him. Although my son said he thinks Wilson is better.
All the big boys are after Jackson now.
I hear that Jackson went to a really, really good HS. ;)
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 07, 2012, 11:17:13 PM
So Matt Thomas is in a virtual tie with Kendrick Nunn as a college prospect. That's worth keeping track of when they reach college.
ESPN has him #31 and Nunn at #56.
I don't know if Thomas is really as good or better than Nunn, but Scout isn't a lone outlier that has him ranked that high. ESPN has him there as well.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 07, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
I'm pretty floored Wilson is still so low. Every time you read about an elite tournament, whether EYBL, Peach Jam, or wherever, his is always one of the first names on people's tongues. Outside of Harrison, I'm not sure any PG has looked better from his class this summer.
I think you can find similar quotes for most of the PGs in the top 100. I don't know which is less accurate--the quotes of praise in these glowing player writeups or the glowing praise from movie critics that appear on posters.
According Hoopniks, Wilson is the 16th ranked PG post-summer:
http://hoopniks.com/post-summer-position-breakdown-2013-point-guards
I think its setting unrealistic expectations to imply Wilson is the 2nd best PG in his class behind Harrison.
I'm excited about the future of MU Basketball!
Wow, according to Hoopniks, Seton Hall has a PG coming in that is 5'8, 150 lbs. I'm all for the undersized PGs with a lion's heart, but that's absurd. You know you're small when Dominic James has 3 inches and 30 lbs. on you.
Matt Thomas must have had an awesome summer of AAU ball...did he make his college choice yet?
Were the rankings updated for the 2014 class?
Quote from: Ners on August 08, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
Matt Thomas must have had an awesome summer of AAU ball...did he make his college choice yet?
Iowa State
Quote from: hilltopper03 on August 08, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
Were the rankings updated for the 2014 class?
I believe they were for 2014 and 2015
Name
Kevon Looney
Diamond Stone | Rivals
11
N/A | Scout
9
2 | ESPN
8
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Quote from: MisterDMU on August 08, 2012, 04:16:23 PM
Wow, according to Hoopniks, Seton Hall has a PG coming in that is 5'8, 150 lbs. I'm all for the undersized PGs with a lion's heart, but that's absurd. You know you're small when Dominic James has 3 inches and 30 lbs. on you.
I believe that's Aquille Carr who is pretty well known for his highlight tapes on youtube.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0814/class-of-2013-post-july-top-125/
Wilson 46
deonte 60.
only thing i will say about the Nunn and Thomas rankings are that scouts tend to focus very little if at all on defense. Not a ton of defense is played during the summer. And one can rest be rest assured that if a scout mentions defense than that kid can really get after it defensively, cause like I said they dont normally take it into any account.
Rankings are 99% based on offense. Therefore, seeing as how most if not all of nunn's write up speak to his defense and athleticism I would take Nunn over thomas every day of the week.
Quote from: kmwtrucks on August 15, 2012, 10:20:43 AM
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0814/class-of-2013-post-july-top-125/
Wilson 46
deonte 60.
Hummm NBE Basketball has Jabari Parker rated third in his class. That's unique.
Washington had already blossomed into a coveted power forward at the Hotchkiss School in Lakeville, Conn., but sought a new prep program. After checking out some different options, the Minnesota native settled on Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., a consistent powerhouse.
Washington visited Notre Dame this summer.
"I think I'm just looking forward to the emphasis on basketball," Washington said. "Hotchkiss was a great school for me in a lot of different ways but coming into my fifth year of high school and with the opportunities I've been given, I just want to take advantage of it. I thought Brewster was gonna be a great place for me to really excel. Good competition, good national competition."
Now Washington wants to take the things he learned about selecting a new school and apply it to his college decision, which will reach a critical point this fall as official visits begin.
Baylor, Illinois, Iowa State, Louisville, Marquette, Minnesota, N.C. State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Washington and Wisconsin are the programs remaining on the list. This summer Washington visited only the Irish, making a trip to South Bend between camps.
#66 ESPN, #120 rivals #82 scout.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on August 15, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
only thing i will say about the Nunn and Thomas rankings are that scouts tend to focus very little if at all on defense. Not a ton of defense is played during the summer. And one can rest be rest assured that if a scout mentions defense than that kid can really get after it defensively, cause like I said they dont normally take it into any account.
Rankings are 99% based on offense. Therefore, seeing as how most if not all of nunn's write up speak to his defense and athleticism I would take Nunn over thomas every day of the week.
You can look at it another way. Nunn by playing defense is as good as Thomas not playing defense. That would make Thomas the better player assuming he learns to play defense at Iowa St.