Has this been commented on? Why would the Badgers beat writer do the article on TJ Taylor leaving, not to mention re-hash all of the other player departures, and MU supposedly being in on Kendrick Nunn...pretty much shows me all I need with regard to the Journal Sentinel's agenda against Buzz/MU.
If you can't beat em, try to run him out of town through negative/slanted articles as best you can.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/mu-recruit-taylor-makes-quick-exit-ju663a7-162979126.html
Yep - right here (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=33005.msg401912#msg401912) on the TJT thread.
The Kendrick Nunn mention is not an accident. It was made to imply that MU ran TJ off, in order to have a scholarship available for Nunn.
a) MU told Newbill that his scholarship offer would not be honored, then took Jamil Wilson as a transfer.
b) MU released Durley from scholarship in April, then signed Lockett.
c) Therefore, MU must have run off TJ in order to make room for Nunn who really wants to go to Kentucky anyway.
That's the kind of biased journalism you get when you have a fan of a school who also writes about that school, do a piece on a rival of his favorite school.
Plus, the Durley to Lockett jump is made with the idea that it was not known Jamail Jones was transferring. I'm not sure if that's the case. Dodds said on Scout that he wanted to transfer last year and was talked out of it. I don't think it's necessarily a fact that Lockett and Durley are intertwined.
Whether its homesickness or the fact that Nunn may be signed by MU in the near future I don't like the fact that he left so quick. Yet if we get Nunn all is well.
Additionally the Badger faithful can rile me up but the more I listen to them the more I realize that they MAY begin to be slowly understanding that we are close to spanking them annually given the recruits we are on. The Journal Sentinel is a hack newspaper and there are better local newspapers in surrounding states.
If you haven't seen it, Rubie did a brilliant job of explaining the way this Badger Potrykus article should be interpreted:
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/
i'm guessing his mu twitter source came from this site...what a tool. i've read high school newspapers with more integrity.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 19, 2012, 09:40:09 PM
If you haven't seen it, Rubie did a brilliant job of explaining the way this Badger Potrykus Platypus article should be interpreted:
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/
Fixed. That
tool hack fanboy doesn't even deserve being called by his true name.
Brilliant post by Rubie Q. Perhaps the guy over on ProBasketballTalk who cited a bitter Bucky fan blog (http://www.olympichockeyblog.com/madtownbadgers/articles/other/bo-ryan-buzz-williams-and-selective-media-outrage.html) on his TJT "article" (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/18/juco-transfer-tj-taylor-leaves-marquette-weeks-after-enrolling/) should be steered towards this article as a rebuttal to his own piece of delusion. He and Platypus seem to have much in common, in spite of his claims of liking Buzz.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 19, 2012, 09:40:09 PM
If you haven't seen it, Rubie did a brilliant job of explaining the way this Badger Potrykus article should be interpreted:
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/
I've never read anything on that blog that I'd characterize as "brilliant." It reads more like someone emailing their buddies than a fan-blog.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2012, 07:41:53 AM
I've never read anything on that blog that I'd characterize as "brilliant." It reads more like someone emailing their buddies than a fan-blog.
Well, I enjoyed Rubie Q's commentary. Especially the part about how Platypus would be in his Bucky pajamas. I wonder if they look something like this:
(http://bim.shopstyle.com/pim/da/29/da29b61632b1c1fd08135b3cc16d8f26_best.jpg)
We all know Bo Ryan is the biggest scumbag in the state of WI. If they want to paint us as the bad guys, fine with me. NWO4LIFE!
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2012, 07:41:53 AM
I've never read anything on that blog that I'd characterize as "brilliant." It reads more like someone emailing their buddies than a fan-blog.
I'm intrigued:
How is a fan blog supposed to read? Is there a manual I should be consulting?
Quote from: Rubie Q on July 20, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
I'm intrigued:
How is a fan blog supposed to read? Is there a manual I should be consulting?
Sending a PM because my post got long.
For the record, the more MU blogs out there the better imo :)
Bush league article IMO.
I BLAME ENLUND.
No teal.
But I give Potrykus a TINY credit: his blog piece was much longer than Enlund's.
You have to give the JS credit, though... they know their audience.
The fact that the UW beat writer now has to go and drum up controversy at the much smaller, private university inside the state borders in order to feed the masses certainly speaks to the growing inferiority complex Badger fans are developing with the rise of MU's basketball profile.
For Christ's sake... you're UW. Basketball isn't even your thing. Why on earth does flaming Marquette's basketball program make you feel better about yourself?
Quote from: Benny B on July 20, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
You have to give the JS credit, though... they know their audience.
The fact that the UW beat writer now has to go and drum up controversy at the much smaller, private university inside the state borders in order to feed the masses certainly speaks to the growing inferiority complex Badger fans are developing with the rise of MU's basketball profile.
For Christ's sake... you're UW. Basketball isn't even your thing. Why on earth does flaming Marquette's basketball program make you feel better about yourself?
Bucky fans need a bigger collective hug than we do at our worst.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on July 20, 2012, 10:06:26 AM
Bucky fans need a bigger collective hug than we do at our worst.
Good luck getting your arms around more than one
Quote from: Benny B on July 20, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
Why on earth does flaming Marquette's basketball program make you feel better about yourself?
It's a rivalry. You kick the other guy when he's down. We should take this as a compliment. They're worried.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2012, 07:41:53 AM
I've never read anything on that blog that I'd characterize as "brilliant." It reads more like someone emailing their buddies than a fan-blog.
Let's see....Rubie writes an insightful piece re:Taylor leaving and your focus is whether it is brilliant or not? That about it?
UW fans at the JS obviously have teamed up with the DePaul fans at the Chicago Tribune in their effort to destroy Marquette.
Quote from: ATWizJr on July 20, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
Let's see....Rubie writes an insightful piece re:Taylor leaving and your focus is whether it is brilliant or not? That about it?
You're right man, I should stop responding to posts on the forums that I agree/disagree with. My bad.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2012, 10:58:46 AM
You're right man, I should stop responding to posts on the forums that I agree/disagree with. My bad.
This wouldn't be an issue if you'd only post like your buddy Rodney used to-- no actual substance, just parrot out some links.
I have written a couple of emails to Jeff Potrykus at the Milwaukee Journal and he responded to my first. I thought you might be interested. I am a huge Marquette backer, but as I told Jeff, I also have a great relationship with Coach Bo Ryan, as he was my college basketball coach at UW-Platteville. I want both programs to flourish in major college basketball. I feel this gives me somewhat of an unbiased approach at looking at the situation regarding the TJ Taylor transfer. Below are the emails, enjoy!
Jeff:
First, why did the journal have you writing this article? Where is Marquette's beat writer? In my opinion, this was a terribly nonprofessional article that shows a complete bias in attempting to make Buzz and the Marquette program look like they are running kids out of the program. It is ironic that you are the beat writer for the Badgers! This is the "hometown" newspaper for Marquette, and this is the kind of coverage they get? It typically takes weeks to get even a little coverage when MU signs a big recruit, and something positive happens. However, when something like this occurs.......... "boom".........the article is in the newspaper the next day, and you even get a biased slant to it as well!
Look around the country and look at the transfer percentages. This is NOT unusual, and if the student/athlete has personal issues, then let it rest. Unless you know something I don't, then you shouldn't play the "conspiracy theory" that something may be going on behind the scenes.
By the way, I was a captain for Bo Ryan at UW-Platteville and I think the world of him as a person and coach. I also have a father that played at Marquette, and I have followed the program closely since I was a young boy. Buzz Williams is a class act in every sense of the word. We are fortunate to have these two fine people running major college basketball programs in our state. There is no reason, and I mean NO REASON, for you to write an article with such negativity and speculation. I am sick of this kind of journalism, but I guess you are playing strictly to the UW base because negativity sells, right?
Very poor and extremely disappointing!
TH
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Thanks for the note (and signing your name).
* Why me? Enlund is off the clock for a bit. We have two full-time writers who do college hoops. That would be me and Enlund. They called me, so I did the story.
* The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is not Marquette's "hometown" newspaper. Nor is it the Bucks' "hometown" paper nor is it the Brewers' "hometown" paper.
We cover several teams/franchises, with MU being in that group. We don't view teams as "our" teams or view ourselves as cheerleaders. We leave that to the fan sites.
* I'm not sure why you're telling me about how long it normally takes to get MU stories into the paper.
I was told about the transfer via a phone call. An editor forwarded the release to me. I made several calls. I wrote the story. That is what I do all the time.
Are you suggesting I should have held off on writing the story for a day or two? To balance some imaginary scales? I'm not sure I understand the logic at work here.
* I'm not too concerned about transfer rates but as long as you broached the topic...Is the consensus rate limited to players who have at least gone through in-season practice? Or, does it include kids who can't even it make to August without departing?
This is the third consecutive spring/summer in which a personnel move has been made. I noted that in the story. It has to be noted or the reporter isn't doing his/her job.
You might be interested to know that a national writer opted to write an opinion piece on the subject, which I did not. His opinion wasn't kind. Does he, too, have a bias against MU?
*I don't know what you know about Taylor so I can't comment on that. I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan.
Since I don't cover MU I don't have the same number of sources/trust in those sources as I would if this were a UW story. So although I can understand the homesick angle (particularly given his early departure from OU) my gutt tells me there might be other factors that have yet been uncovered.
* I'll close with this: When I was assigned the story I chuckled because I knew some MU fans would be peeved to see the UW beat guy handling the story and somehow would see a conspiracy.
I was certain of this because of their history. Most recent case involved my story on Ethan Happ (a 2014 UW commit). It had nothing at all to do with MU's program or its players or recruits but several MU fans somehow thought I was taking shots at Vander Blue when I asked Happ about sticking to his commitment if he got offers from marquee programs down the line.
There is no connection between the two players. Yet somehow MU fans made one.
I broached that topic with Happ and his AAU coach because UW's staff does a tremendous job spotting talent early and projecting. But in several cases they've lost recruits to other programs who joined the recruiting battle later on. Happ is different in that he has committed but if he continues to progress as he has to date it is possible/likely other schools will call to gauge his interest.
So I thought it was a point worth addressing. Somehow that turned into a way to bash MU. Go figure.
Take care,
JP
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Jeff:
Your article was very unprofessional, but your response to me was beyond pathetic and petty and proves just how unprofessional you truly are. Your statements that followed are completely biased and slanted. You turned to tweets to get your information. Are you kidding me? Absolutely pathetic! If you can't get information from the sources directly, a professional (which you clearly aren't!) would not touch the subject. It is very easy to see you have a chip on your shoulders and hold some kind of grudge in your comments regarding Marquette and their fan base. To leverage this in an article is beyond what anyone with any integrity would do. I don't think they teach that in journalism classes anymore, but they should! This alone should keep you from writing articles concerning a team that is in the "hometown" of Milwaukee. To say that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is not in Marquette's hometown newspaper is plain ignorant. Maybe you can say you are not going to treat them like a hometown school, but Milwaukee is their home, so you are dead wrong!
To say you chuckled before you wrote the article tells me volumes of your sentiment, and lack of professionalism toward Marquette and their fan base. To "try" to defend yourself with the stuff you are shoveling is even more pathetic though. Then to go on and bring up UW in your response and write, "UW's staff does a tremendous job spotting talent early and projecting. But in several cases they've lost recruits to other programs who joined the recruiting battle later on." One Badger mention and it is a positive one! Huh, funny! Marquette has found gems early on as well, and they have also lost out to other major programs once they got involved. Have you followed that at all? I would argue that Buzz and his staff have found players that have blown up in the national rankings as much, if not more than Bo and his staff has. Both do a tremendous job of spotting talent that fits into their program style.
Every player, every recruit, and every program are very unique. However, we all see what we want to see based on our loyalties. If I go to a high school basketball game, I see things that are in favor my hometown team. All the fans do. One side will cheer on a call that goes their way, while the opponents fans yell at the refs and get upset, because they are sure it was a terrible call. If I was an Auburn fan, but I wrote newspaper articles for Alabama, I think my perspective would be different and somewhat biased even if I wasn't trying to be. Or if I graduated from the University of Kentucky and wrote for a newspaper in Louisville (hometown newspapers?) I would most likely unintentionally be slanted in my views. That's human nature, whether you want to fight that or not!
Keep defending yourself against poor journalism if it makes you feel better. Keep dragging people under the bus without any hard facts if it makes you feel like you can make a splash with your fan base. The bottom line is, you are a Badger beat writer and it is apparent where your loyalty lies. Extremely apparent! To then try to sell me with your response is just plain sad. Or as Bo would say, "It doesn't matter. It's all conversation."
No matter the case, I don't know you as a person. I hope you have a nice summer, and I wish you well in the future.
Take care,
TH
Let's just take it easy on Potty. You would take your frustration out on rival schools too if this was your team's big recruiting news: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/104882/riley-dearing
Hoops12, well done. IMHO, most sports writers are fairly bitter about something or another (not being athletes themselves?), and this seems to be no exception. It bugs the hell out of me when they get on their pedestals and and badmouth teams or players (especially college programs). When a fan says peep to them, they just dismiss it. Jeff Potrykus can kiss my @$$
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on July 20, 2012, 10:06:26 AM
Bucky fans need a bigger collective hug than we do at our worst.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on July 20, 2012, 10:42:24 AM
Good luck getting your arms around more than one
I read that this guy knows how to show the Bucky fans some affection.
(http://wkow.images.worldnow.com/images/16500873_BG1.jpg)
Thanks for sharing, hoops12. Interesting that we mock message board posters for putting too much stock into college kids' Twitter posts, yet a so-called professional journalist used it as a "source." His response to you was overly defensive and unprofessional. He really could have handled the questions much better.
BTW, anyone know have the article from the "national writer" who apparently wasn't so kind to MU?
QuoteWhy me? Enlund is off the clock for a bit.
Where can I get his two year vacation deal?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 20, 2012, 11:48:30 AM
BTW, anyone know have the article from the "national writer" who apparently wasn't so kind to MU?
Believe he's talking about Rob Dauster, whose post is here, if you haven't seen it.
http://t.co/lQr3fodg
This is the article he was referring to:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/18/juco-transfer-tj-taylor-leaves-marquette-weeks-after-enrolling/
Oops! I didn't see that someone had already responded. Both are the same article.
Quote from: Rubie Q on July 20, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
Believe he's talking about Rob Dauster, whose post is here, if you haven't seen it.
http://t.co/lQr3fodg
Quote from: Rubie Q on July 20, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
Believe he's talking about Rob Dauster, whose post is here, if you haven't seen it.
http://t.co/lQr3fodg
Thanks!
That wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it might be. In fact, it wasn't bad at all and read much more unbiased than the MJS article.
Quote from: hoops12 on July 20, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan... Since I don't cover MU I don't have the same number of sources/trust in those sources as I would if this were a UW story.
Read: I don't know anything/have any legitimate contacts at MU, so I wrote a newspaper story for Milwaukee's newspaper using MUScoop as my source.
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 20, 2012, 08:23:24 AM
NWO4LIFE!
We will be Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Hogan, and Savage.
The badgers can be the 10 other WCW jobbers on the roster.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 20, 2012, 11:48:30 AM
Thanks for sharing, hoops12. Interesting that we mock message board posters for putting too much stock into college kids' Twitter posts, yet a so-called professional journalist used it as a "source." His response to you was overly defensive and unprofessional. He really could have handled the questions much better.
I think you're confusing matters.
People have said we shouldn't put too much stock into comments like a player tweeting "I had a great time on my visit" months before he's due to commit.
That situation is quite a bit different than a player unexpectedly leaving a program, the school issuing a "he was homesick" public comment, and the player making contradictory statements it in his twtter stream.
The old saying is that there are three sides to every story--in this case, MU's side, Taylor's side and the cold, hard truth.
I don't think we know the truth yet.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
I think you're confusing matters.
People have said we shouldn't put too much stock into comments like a player tweeting "I had a great time on my visit" months before he's due to commit.
That situation is quite a bit different than a player unexpectedly leaving a program, the school issuing a "he was homesick" public comment, and the player making contradictory statements it in his twtter stream.
The old saying is that there are three sides to every story--in this case, MU's side, Taylor's side and the cold, hard truth.
I don't think we know the truth yet.
Actually, in this case, I don't think TJT's and MU's side is any different. And, now is the time to cut bait and to leave opportunities open for both. Making the best of the situation.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
I think you're confusing matters.
People have said we shouldn't put too much stock into comments like a player tweeting "I had a great time on my visit" months before he's due to commit.
That situation is quite a bit different than a player unexpectedly leaving a program, the school issuing a "he was homesick" public comment, and the player making contradictory statements it in his twtter stream.
The old saying is that there are three sides to every story--in this case, MU's side, Taylor's side and the cold, hard truth.
I don't think we know the truth yet.
1. The school never issued a "he was homesick" public comment. The only public comment the school has issued is that Taylor withdrew for personal reasons and it was his decision.
2. What has Taylor tweeted that contradicts MU's statement (real or imaginary)?
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
I think you're confusing matters.
People have said we shouldn't put too much stock into comments like a player tweeting "I had a great time on my visit" months before he's due to commit.
That situation is quite a bit different than a player unexpectedly leaving a program, the school issuing a "he was homesick" public comment, and the player making contradictory statements it in his twtter stream.
The old saying is that there are three sides to every story--in this case, MU's side, Taylor's side and the cold, hard truth.
I don't think we know the truth yet.
I think you're the one who's confused.
1. Players usually take multiple visits and "have a great time" on most of them, so a tweet of that sort is often meaningless.
2. Where did Marquette issue a "the player is homesick" public comment? I only read that MU said he left for personal reasons. The idea that he was homesick came from what TJ himself said on twitter - I guess he has backtracked some on that theme.
3.MU says he left for personal reasons. TJ hasn't given any reason. Why does there have to be a "cold, hard truth" that contradicts both? Their stories may turn out to be essentially the same.
(Sorry this is redudant as Dr Blackheart and Pakuni have made the same points)
Quote from: Pakuni on July 20, 2012, 03:09:08 PM
1. The school never issued a "he was homesick" public comment. The only public comment the school has issued is that Taylor withdrew for personal reasons and it was his decision.
2. What has Taylor tweeted that contradicts MU's statement (real or imaginary)?
1. According to Potrykus:
"*I don't know what you know about Taylor so I can't comment on that.
I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan. "
2: Exchanges on Twitter:
Jim Hagerty @jhags15
@tjtaylor21 Man you didn't even get to the season. I know you're missing your gf I do long distance 2. Really was hoping to see you play GL
Lost One @tjtaylor21
@jhags15 has nothing to do with that keep your thoughts to yourself you have no idea so just chill out
And this:
vince mullins @chenz80
@emilyyynichole - good luck to you and TJ...Marquette nation is pissed but sounds like love couldn't stand the distance. #unfortunate
Taylor's response:
Lost One @tjtaylor21
@chenz80 DUDE chill out say what you wanna say but you can keep her out of it she has nothing to do with it shut the f*ck up
And
Emily Thompson ✌ @emilyyynichole
@chenz80 are you serious?! I'm the LAST reason he came home. You might wanna learn the facts before you speak! I wanted him to stay...
You can think whatever you want. I don't believe that the two MU sources that Potrykus spoke with who claimed he was homsick and missed his girlfriend are consistent with the tweets I read from Taylor and his girlfriend.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 05:00:27 PM
1. According to Potrykus:
"*I don't know what you know about Taylor so I can't comment on that. I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan. "
Are you serious?
You're really claiming that what Potrykus - in a personal email exchange with a reader - says he was told by "two MU folks" qualifies as Marquette University's statement on the matter?
That's delusional.
Quote2: Exchanges on Twitter:
So, Taylor's tweets contradict those who said he left because he was missing his girlfriend. As does her tweet.
Now tell me again how this contradicts Marquette's statement?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 03:14:40 PM
1. Players usually take multiple visits and "have a great time" on most of them, so a tweet of that sort is often meaningless.
Agreed--hence we shouldn't read too much into
those types of tweets.
But, wouldn't you agree that there's a big differece between those type and what happened here?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 03:14:40 PM
2. Where did Marquette issue a "the player is homesick" public comment? I only read that MU said he left for personal reasons. The idea that he was homesick came from what TJ himself said on twitter - I guess he has backtracked some on that theme.
Potrykas said the comment came from two MU people he spoke with, as posted above in this thread.
"*I don't know what you know about Taylor so I can't comment on that.
I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan. "
Now, I suppose you can nit pik and say that MU didn't include that comment into their PRESS RELEASE. But they did spread that notion in their RESPONSES to a reporter's question.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 03:14:40 PM
3.MU says he left for personal reasons. TJ hasn't given any reason. Why does there have to be a "cold, hard truth" that contradicts both? Their stories may turn out to be essentially the same.
All I can say is go back and re-read the tweets from TJ and his girlfriend. I just posted them above to make it easy for you. I don't think they are consistent with MU staff telling the press that he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. That's my point.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Agreed--hence we shouldn't read too much into those types of tweets.
But, wouldn't you agree that there's a big differece between those type and what happened here?
Potrykas said the comment came from two MU people he spoke with, as posted above in this thread.
"*I don't know what you know about Taylor so I can't comment on that. I do know that after talking to two MU folks, both suggested he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. However, Taylor denied that in a tweet to an MU fan. His girlfriend one day later did the same in response to a comment by a fan. "
Now, I suppose you can nit pik and say that MU didn't include that comment into their PRESS RELEASE. But they did spread that notion in their RESPONSES to a reporter's question.
All I can say is go back and re-read the tweets from TJ and his girlfriend. I just posted them above to make it easy for you. I don't think they are consistent with MU staff telling the press that he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. That's my point.
"MU folks" = staff? Hmmm. Interesting. I'm certain a professional writer would call them more than "MU folks" if they were insiders.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
I don't think they are consistent with MU staff telling the press that he was homesick and missed his girlfriend. That's my point.
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I would put the odds at about 1000 -1 that MU staff said anything to the "press", let alone some biased UW booster hack, other than TJ left for personal reasons.
Some in the MU community surmised that TJ was homesick from things TJ posted on twitter and shared their thoughts here. That's Petroykus's "source". TJ and his girlfriend have since said that homesickness was not the reason and I'll accept that, but it doesn't in any way contradict what MU has said.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 20, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
"MU folks" = staff? Hmmm. Interesting. I'm certain a professional writer would call them more than "MU folks" if they were insiders.
Because nobody in Wisconsin would ever refer to people as "folks." ::)
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2012, 07:41:53 AM
I've never read anything on that blog that I'd characterize as "brilliant." It reads more like someone emailing their buddies than a fan-blog.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on July 20, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
Well, I enjoyed Rubie Q's commentary. Especially the part about how Platypus would be in his Bucky pajamas. I wonder if they look something like this:
(http://bim.shopstyle.com/pim/da/29/da29b61632b1c1fd08135b3cc16d8f26_best.jpg)
Take Rubie Q's commentary, add CaptainAwesome's Bucky pj pic, and you get brilliant.
I got kind of interested on what Badger fans thought of Jeff Potrykus. Evidently, bucky1 thought that he was a "total ass" and submitted that claim to Intershame.com - a website dedicated to "Shaming bad behavior on the WWW since 1995!" - to seek an unbiased confirmation which bucky1 received.
Wisconsin Badger Football Sportswriter 10/08/2009
Today's Intershame comes from Bucky1 who writes:
I'm an avid (Wisconsin) Badger (Football) fan so I follow the team pretty closely. The best source of information during the season is Milwaukee Journal Sentinal writer Jeff Potrykus and his coverage of the team. His articles are pretty good, but every Monday he does an online chat an he comes off as a total ass.
Jeff Potrykus. Kind of a dick.
Bucky1 was kind enough to send us a link to Jeff's most recent chat transcript and, sure enough, he's kind of a dick. After reading through about half of the chat log, I noticed a fairly predictable pattern: if somebody asked a question containing any sort of opinion, Mr. Potrykus replied with some level of snark. I pulled out some examples for your enjoyment...
Q: Mark, Minneapolis - Great victory for the Badgers. What was the deal with that 3rd and 1 towards the end of the first half where the Badgers looked they were trying to catch the Gophs off-guard and Tolzien missed on the pass? Shouldn't they just have run the ball to pick up the first down?
A: Jeff Potrykus - The deal? They were trying to get a first down and move down the field for a FG or TD.
Q: The REAL Shanghai Badger - Jeff, Not sure if you saw, but when Decker scored for Minny, he pretended to be chopping wiht an axe. All I could think of was, pretty early (1st quarter) to be pulling something like that. Did UW notice?
A: Jeff Potrykus - I saw it on the replay. I'm sure the UW players in the area noticed. Did I ask them? Nope. Was scrambling around the interview room asking them about more pertinent topics.
Q: Tom, Saint Paul - Did you see us waving at you from section 202? How did you like the new stadium - how would you compare the atmosphere to other Big Ten venues?
A: Jeff Potrykus - Only way I had seen you would have been if you were on the field in a uni.
Q: Tom, Saint Paul - Noticed Ball had a few carries in the game. I thought Coach B had talked about redshirting him - did he give an explanation for the change in plans? After all the talk about Minney's 300+ lb defensive tackles, the Wisconsin rushing offense sure looked good in the 2nd half.
A: Jeff Potrykus - Yes, he talked about it last Thursday night after practice. I wrote about it then and wrote a story for the Monday paper after talking to Settle.
Q: TJ, Destin, FL - Is it time to fire the specials teams coach?
A: Jeff Potrykus - No. But it's time to stop asking that question, particularly since they are at the NCAA max for assistants and said assistants are involved in special teams.
Q: Gary, Cleveland, OH - Jeff, WOW - Who is 44 on Defense? He always seems to be in the right place making plays. I don't remember reading or hearing much about him this summer.
A: Jeff Potrykus - Gary: If you didn't read about Borland during the preseason you didn't read what many were writing. It was clear in camp and in NC play that the kid is a player.
At first, I admit, I wasn't sure Bucky1's argument had much merit. Sure, Mr Potrykus comes across as short, but are his responses really that shameful? I was about to dismiss the notion of shaming him... and then it hit me. Mr. Potrykus is answering questions from people who would do pretty much anything to be in his situation. This sportswriter has nearly unlimited access to the football team these people follow with nearly limitless enthusiasm. These fans will take an hour out of their Monday nights to sit in front of their computer screen fervently waiting for the moment that Mr. Potrykus maybe, just maybe will address their question about the team they love. And when Mr. Potrykus finally does, he often treats the them with a level of contempt usually reserved for a strangers unruly child.
Mr. Potrykus is very lucky the subject he's covering already has an ingrained, passionate and loyal fanbase because it's unlikely he'd be able to win many readers over with his personality. That he has readers is the sole reason he's able to write for a living. His seemingly unappreciative attitude towards those people is indeed worthy of Intershame.
This Intershame was nominated by "Bucky1"
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 07:33:54 PM
Because nobody in Wisconsin would ever refer to people as "folks." ::)
K chicos ::) He would call them "sources," "insiders," or by their title (coach, director of bb operations, etc). You don't refer to a basketball staff as "folks" when you're giving inside information about basketball, no matter where you're from. I am an MU folk. Buzz is an MU coach.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 06:13:54 PM
I would put the odds at about 1000 -1 that MU staff said anything to the "press", let alone some biased UW booster hack, other than TJ left for personal reasons.
Some in the MU community surmised that TJ was homesick from things TJ posted on twitter and shared their thoughts here. That's Petroykus's "source". TJ and his girlfriend have since said that homesickness was not the reason and I'll accept that, but it doesn't in any way contradict what MU has said.
So you're saying that he fabricated it? You may not like Potrykas, but to accuse a journalst of fabricating a conversation with a source is extremely serious, as in instantly fireable--even for a throwaway comment like
"A Marquette source said Wednesday that Taylor, a native of Denison, Texas, was homesick.", which appeared online on 7/18.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/mu-recruit-taylor-makes-quick-exit-ju663a7-162979126.html
If you honestly and truly believe he fabricated this, then do us all a favor and call or send a note to MARTIN KAISER, Sr. Vice President/Editor at the J/S -- he can be reached at (414) 224-2345 mkaiser@journalsentinel.com. If Potrykas can't validate that he actually spoke with someone at Marquette, he will very quickly join the ranks of Janet Cooke and Jayson Blair.
Of course, my guess (with 1000 to 1 odds) is that Potrykas actually has the names, numbers and contact notes from the people at MU he spoke with.
Meanwhile, the guys at PaintTouches reported
essentially the same thing:
"
[Taylor] couldn't be reached for comment yesterday, but rumors have floated about the Texas native feeling home sick."
So lets assume you're right--that both Potrykas and PT completely fabricated the "homesick" story angle.
How do you explain TJ Taylor's angry reaction to the two fans who reached out to him? Doesn't that reaction seem the teeniest bit inconsistent?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 20, 2012, 08:14:46 PM
K chicos ::) He would call them "sources," "insiders," or by their title (coach, director of bb operations, etc). You don't refer to a basketball staff as "folks" when you're giving inside information about basketball, no matter where you're from. I am an MU folk. Buzz is an MU coach.
He said "source" in the story, "folks" in the personal email.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/mu-recruit-taylor-makes-quick-exit-ju663a7-162979126.html
"A Marquette
source said Wednesday that Taylor, a native of Denison, Texas, was homesick."
Happy now?
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
He said "source" in the story, "folks" in the personal email.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/mu-recruit-taylor-makes-quick-exit-ju663a7-162979126.html
"A Marquette source said Wednesday that Taylor, a native of Denison, Texas, was homesick."
Happy now?
Please. The idea that Potroykus (an unapologetic Badger booster and MU basher) has multiple sources on the Marquette staff is laughable. His "source" is MU Scoop.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Please. The idea that Potroykus (an unapologetic Badger booster and MU basher) has multiple sources on the Marquette staff is laughable. His "source" is MU Scoop.
As I said before, if you believe he fabricated the conversations with MU sources, then report him to the management of the J/S so he'll be fired and we'll be done with him.
Time to put up or shut up.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
As I said before, if you believe he fabricated the conversations with MU sources, then report him to the management of the J/S so he'll be fired and we'll be done with him.
Time to put up or shut up.
Or we could collectively unbunch our panties and move on like rational people. Not everything has to end with some grand gesture of animosity against some idiot on the internet.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 20, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
As I said before, if you believe he fabricated the conversations with MU sources, then report him to the management of the J/S so he'll be fired and we'll be done with him.
Time to put up or shut up.
You're hilarious - even if unintentionally.
Thought of the Day:
When an internet poster shares news from an anonymous source he is a tin foil hat wearer. When a Badger hack decides to run a slam piece out of the blue citing anonymous MU folks, he is a main stream journalist.
Life is full of interesting ironies.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 20, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
Thought of the Day:
When an internet poster shares news from an anonymous source he is a tin foil hat wearer. When a Badger hack decides to run a slam piece out of the blue citing anonymous MU folks, he is a main stream journalist.
Life is full of interesting ironies.
+22/7
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 20, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
Thought of the Day:
When an internet poster shares news from an anonymous source he is a tin foil hat wearer. When a Badger hack decides to run a slam piece out of the blue citing anonymous MU folks, he is a main stream journalist.
Life is full of interesting ironies.
Post of the Year.
With a Japanese accent.....ahhhhh hair 22/7 ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 20, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Please. The idea that Potroykus (an unapologetic Badger booster and MU basher) has multiple sources on the Marquette staff is laughable. His "source" is MU Scoop.
His sources are EricTheRed and Swenson. No one is more tied into what's really going on at Marquette.
Kidding aside, I don't believe for one nanosecond that Poteykus has legitimate sources on the MU staff. Maybe he knows some professors or grads, but I have the absolute smallest doubt that he's spouting bloody stool out his backside and trying to convince the readers it's rainbows.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 20, 2012, 11:31:44 PM
I have the absolute smallest doubt that he's spouting bloody stool out his backside and trying to convince the readers it's rainbows.
Nice mental image ;D
I dont read anything into TJ's tweets other than that he's telling random strangers who are asking about what is, to him, a personal matter to mind their own business and especially to leave his girlfriend out of it. I might do the same thing. Who would even follow, let alone send a message to the girlfriend of a player? It baffles me.
Has anyone written Buzz an email asking him yet? Maybe we should all write him a note?
In case anyone is curious the dead-tree version of the Journal Sentinel did include a story about Jae getting his contract... of course it was about 35 words long and from the AP, but still... hooray.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 20, 2012, 11:31:44 PM
His sources are EricTheRed and Swenson. No one is more tied into what's really going on at Marquette.
Kidding aside, I don't believe for one nanosecond that Poteykus has legitimate sources on the MU staff. Maybe he knows some professors or grads, but I have the absolute smallest doubt that he's spouting bloody stool out his backside and trying to convince the readers it's rainbows.
Are you serious? MU media contact information is easily found online:
http://www.gomarquette.com/athletic-dept/marq-athletic-dept.html
And if any of those people refused to call him back, it would have been just as easy (and more damaging to Marquette) for him to report "Marquette offiicials refused to return multiple phone calls."
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 20, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
Thought of the Day:
When an internet poster shares news from an anonymous source he is a tin foil hat wearer. When a Badger hack decides to run a slam piece out of the blue citing anonymous MU folks, he is a main stream journalist.
Life is full of interesting ironies.
Can you please explain what you think the "slam" was?
He said he spoke with MU sources who said Taylor was homesick. Sorry, but I don't see that as an attempt to slam Marquette. In fact, its about as innocuous and non-damaging excuse as you can get.
Some of you are way too sensitive----you see a bash MU plot behind just about every word that's written in the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel regarding MU or UW BB. Fortunately you are in the minority.
The Journal-Sentinel is not out to get MU----it's MU's hometown newspaper and the M J/S is in the business of selling newspapers to both the MU alumni and its subway alumni. Disgruntled MU alumni are lees likely to patronize the M J/S.
I've been around for a long time and find the Journal Sentinel very fair to both programs. The digs equal out over the years.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 21, 2012, 12:39:47 PM
Can you please explain what you think the "slam" was?
He said he spoke with MU sources who said Taylor was homesick. Sorry, but I don't see that as an attempt to slam Marquette. In fact, its about as innocuous and non-damaging excuse as you can get.
Implying that TJ Taylor was runoff by Buzz so that he could sign Kendrick Nunn.