Attached is a photo of the 2012 Sweet Sixteen Ring.
That's pretty awesome, thanks.
did they do this last year too?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 02, 2012, 03:11:47 PM
Attached is a photo of the 2012 Sweet Sixteen Ring.
Looks awesome! Especially like the baby blue stones. Who pays for these? The players? The University/donors? Buzz?
I don't doubt it's compliant, but that looks pretty sweet compared to the class ring my folks bought me upon graduation, and I wouldn't have shelled out $400 as a broke college grad.
Quote from: robmufan on July 02, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
did they do this last year too?
Yeah. Check out page 4 of last years media guide if you have it.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/2011-12-media-guide.html (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/2011-12-media-guide.html)
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 02, 2012, 03:11:47 PM
Attached is a photo of the 2012 Sweet Sixteen Ring.
Whose nasty fingernails are those?
Either DJO or Derrick Wilson I believe.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 02, 2012, 04:11:05 PM
Whose nasty fingernails are those?
You don't even know what the players' fingernails look like? Some fan you are.
Do they sell them just like the Ohio St. players do?
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 02, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
Agreed. Not quite a participation trophy, but...
Quote from: warriorchick on July 02, 2012, 04:11:05 PM
Whose nasty fingernails are those?
A grinding working man's fingernails.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 02, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
If you were a recruit and saw that, wouldn't you be interested in getting one?
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 02, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
Pretty sure they get one for making the tournament too. Hey, if a high school team gets one for winning state, college teams should get one for being one of the last 16 standing. I'd take one.
what do they get if they win the final 4, or get to the elite 8, love the ring.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on July 02, 2012, 05:13:17 PM
A grinding working man's fingernails.
Doesn't mean he can't use a nail brush once in awhile.....
You'd think with all the money the program had that they don't have a manicurist on staff!
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 02, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
Totally agree. If they get rings for winning two games, what happens if they win it all? Bronze statues?
It's small time.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 02, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
Doesn't mean he can't use a nail brush once in awhile.....
See, I knew this would happen sooner or later when broads are allowed to post on this board.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2012, 04:40:24 AM
See, I knew this would happen sooner or later when broads are allowed to post on this board.
Hey, broads notice stuff like that.
Keep that in mind the next time you get shot down.
If they make the Final Four, I think a Four Finger ring would be in order. Pure bling straight across the knuckles. Perhaps LL Cool J could consult on the design.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 02, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Please don't tear me a new a$$ cause i'm not sure....
Do all schools who advance the the sweet 16 get rings? Does anybody else see this as a consolation prize and find it cheesy?
Yes i understand making it to the sweet 16 is a great achievement but ring worthy? Not sure about that.
Nah. It's not like a cheesy banner being raised to the rafters.
Quote from: MUMBA on July 03, 2012, 08:27:24 AM
If they make the Final Four, I think a Four Finger ring would be in order. Pure bling straight across the knuckles. Perhaps LL Cool J could consult on the design.
I vote for gold medallions the size of dinner plates featuring a diamond-encrusted MU logo.
Perhaps juice boxes and orange slices at halftime....
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 03, 2012, 12:25:58 AM
Totally agree. If they get rings for winning two games, what happens if they win it all? Bronze statues?
It's small time.
Small time?!? The ring commemorates a significant achievement. 16 of 347 D-I teams advanced to the Sweet 16 last year. 95th percentile. Final ranking #10. 2nd place in Big East (1st place once Syracuse's season is vacated). How is that not worthy of some sort of memento?
If you want to rag on people for giving out rings for no accomplishment whatsoever, talk to Jostens' high school sales department.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 03, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
I vote for gold medallions the size of dinner plates featuring a diamond-encrusted MU logo.
See, I knew this would happen sooner or later when broads are allowed to post on this board.
Quote from: Benny B on July 03, 2012, 09:43:20 AM
Small time?!? The ring commemorates a significant achievement. 16 of 347 D-I teams advanced to the Sweet 16 last year. 95th percentile. Final ranking #10. 2nd place in Big East (1st place once Syracuse's season is vacated). How is that not worthy of some sort of memento?
If you want to rag on people for giving out rings for no accomplishment whatsoever, talk to Jostens' high school sales department.
+1 Damn, we're getting jaded.
Go watch 1 practice/work-out.
Realize they do that 6-7 times per week, year round.
Then comment on the ring being "small time" and "orange slices".
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 03, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Go watch 1 practice/work-out.
Realize they do that 6-7 times per week, year round.
Then comment on the ring being "small time" and "orange slices".
And all the teams they have to beat to get that far are doing the same things.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 03, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Go watch 1 practice/work-out.
Realize they do that 6-7 times per week, year round.
Then comment on the ring being "small time" and "orange slices".
And so do all of the other teams in Division 1 basketball. What's your point? Does Duke, UConn, UNC, Wisconsin, and all the other teams hand out S16 rings because of their hard work?
You make it seem like Marquette is the only team to work hard throughout the entire year.
My point is if Marquette is considered a perennial top 25 team, or wishes to be....Don't the rings seem humorous? I wasn't aware of the other schools that do this, especially if MU is supposed to be taking "the next step" just seems like a consolation prize for participation.
I agree, it's a little pretentious, but it's still a really cool ring. Maybe Final Four rings would be appropriate, but S16 is pushing it a little. That's not to say it isn't a major accomplishment and that these guys don't work hard -- but I also don't feel that a S16 appearance should be the "goal" of any of these players or coaches. Sure, you can celebrate and remember a great season, but the bar should be a little higher than that, especially if we want to be considered an elite college team.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 03, 2012, 10:32:58 AM
And so do all of the other teams in Division 1 basketball. What's your point? Does Duke, UConn, UNC, Wisconsin, and all the other teams hand out S16 rings because of their hard work?
You make it seem like Marquette is the only team to work hard throughout the entire year.
My point is if Marquette is considered a perennial top 25 team, or wishes to be....Don't the rings seem humorous? I wasn't aware of the other schools that do this, especially if MU is supposed to be taking "the next step" just seems like a consolation prize for participation.
Some perspective, please. 2011 was the first time MU made the second weekend of the tournament in almost a decade. This year was the first time MU made it that far twice in a row in 25 years. We made the S16 or further once in the aughts, once in the nineties, and ZERO times in the eighties. That's two times TOTAL in a 25 year span. The past two tournaments have been major building blocks for the program, and everyone's effort deserves to be recognized. It's not like we rack up S16's year in and year out. Yet. The best is yet to come, but for now it's definitely a big deal.
Quote from: Jamailman on July 03, 2012, 10:50:22 AM
Some perspective, please. 2011 was the first time MU made the second weekend of the tournament in almost a decade. This year was the first time MU made it that far twice in a row in 25 years. We made the S16 or further once in the aughts, once in the nineties, and ZERO times in the eighties. That's two times TOTAL in a 25 year span. The past two tournaments have been major building blocks for the program, and everyone's effort deserves to be recognized. It's not like we rack up S16's year in and year out. Yet. The best is yet to come, but for now it's definitely a big deal.
That's almost like saying it'd be ok if the Pacers made themselves rings for getting to the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals because they haven't been there in 12 years.
Edit: I bet those silly Pacers actually did do that.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 03, 2012, 10:32:58 AM
And so do all of the other teams in Division 1 basketball. What's your point? Does Duke, UConn, UNC, Wisconsin, and all the other teams hand out S16 rings because of their hard work?
You make it seem like Marquette is the only team to work hard throughout the entire year.
My point is if Marquette is considered a perennial top 25 team, or wishes to be....Don't the rings seem humorous? I wasn't aware of the other schools that do this, especially if MU is supposed to be taking "the next step" just seems like a consolation prize for participation.
If players from those teams want to come on MUSCOOP and make fun of MU for their rings, so be it.
Internet nerds (myself included) shouldn't gripe about something as small as a commemorative rings for the players.
Certainly we are all entitled to an opinion, but this seems like such a small thing for people to gripe about. Players work their asses off. Let them have a ring.
Rob Frozena got a framed jersey on senior night. He was only a walk-on. Shame on MU. I'm appalled.
Oh, and MU will not be as good as they could be next year because they got S16 rings. We all know that.
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on July 03, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
That's almost like saying it'd be ok if the Pacers made themselves rings for getting to the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals because they haven't been there in 12 years.
Edit: I bet those silly Pacers actually did do that.
Yeah, cuz the NCAA tournament and the NBA playoffs are the exact same thing.
Building a history of deep tournament runs = building a brand for better recruiting for a college basketball team. You have to convince top players to come to your team, and top players want to play for a program with a track record of winning & national exposure.
In the NBA, only the championship matters, and the team selects the players in the draft and in free agency, not the other way around (for the most part). Plus, top 8/16 or (or 8/30) is nowhere near top 16/64 (or 16/345).
Back to back sweet 16's were a huge step for our program, no doubt about it.
Quote from: JDuquaine on July 03, 2012, 10:32:58 AM
And so do all of the other teams in Division 1 basketball. What's your point? Does Duke, UConn, UNC, Wisconsin, and all the other teams hand out S16 rings because of their hard work?
You make it seem like Marquette is the only team to work hard throughout the entire year.
My point is if Marquette is considered a perennial top 25 team, or wishes to be....Don't the rings seem humorous? I wasn't aware of the other schools that do this, especially if MU is supposed to be taking "the next step" just seems like a consolation prize for participation.
Boy, somebody needs a short trip back to the Dukiet and Deane days to gain a little perspective. So, sweet sixteen runs should be considered the norm now, and anything less should be considered an underachievement?
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
If players from those teams want to come on MUSCOOP and make fun of MU for their rings, so be it.
Internet nerds (myself included) shouldn't gripe about something as small as a commemorative rings for the players.
Certainly we are all entitled to an opinion, but this seems like such a small thing for people to gripe about. Players work their asses off. Let them have a ring.
Rob Frozena got a framed jersey on senior night. He was only a walk-on. Shame on MU. I'm appalled.
Oh, and MU will not be as good as they could be next year because they got S16 rings. We all know that.
A framed jersey is one thing. Rings are usually given out to champions of some sort. I understand making back-to-back S16 appearances is a big deal for the program. It's being commemorated and celebrated in many ways and I'm all for it... the rings are kinda cheesey. And that is an opinion just like anything else on this board. I'm in no ways appauled and up in arms about it, I just think it's kinda silly, that's all. Maybe they should have a Sweet Sixteen trophy and all the players can bring it back to their hometowns and have a parade. Or maybe that's a little silly.
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on July 03, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
A framed jersey is one thing. Rings are usually given out to champions of some sort. I understand making back-to-back S16 appearances is a big deal for the program. It's being commemorated and celebrated in many ways and I'm all for it... the rings are kinda cheesey. And that is an opinion just like anything else on this board. I'm in no ways appauled and up in arms about it, I just think it's kinda silly, that's all. Maybe they should have a Sweet Sixteen trophy and all the players can bring it back to their hometowns and have a parade. Or maybe that's a little silly.
Alright, so it's not the commemoration of a very good season, it's the choice of jewelry because rings are for champions.
Fine.
It should be medallions next time.
What do Lehigh's and Norfolk State's R32 rings look like?
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on July 03, 2012, 01:22:21 PM
What do Lehigh's and Norfolk State's R32 rings look like?
Nothing tops VCU's "Final Ranking #6" banner.
Quote from: Bocephys on July 03, 2012, 01:30:44 PM
Nothing tops VCU's "Final Ranking #6" banner.
That seems to deflate its Final Four accomplishment a little bit, huh?
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on July 03, 2012, 01:35:11 PM
That seems to deflate its Final Four accomplishment a little bit, huh?
In 1977, Marquette's final ranking was what? Seven?
Quote from: Benny B on July 03, 2012, 09:43:20 AM
Small time?!? The ring commemorates a significant achievement. 16 of 347 D-I teams advanced to the Sweet 16 last year. 95th percentile. Final ranking #10. 2nd place in Big East (1st place once Syracuse's season is vacated). How is that not worthy of some sort of memento?
If you want to rag on people for giving out rings for no accomplishment whatsoever, talk to Jostens' high school sales department.
It doesn't work that way--even if Syracuse vacates its wins, we keep our 2nd place finish. Just like Texas didn't become a Final Four team when Memphis vacated their win that put them in the Final Four.
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on July 03, 2012, 01:22:21 PM
What do Lehigh's and Norfolk State's R32 rings look like?
It probably highlights their Patriot League Championship. The school has a published policy:
http://www.lehighsports.com/assets/info/handbook/ChampionshipAwards.pdf
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on July 03, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
A framed jersey is one thing. Rings are usually given out to champions of some sort. I understand making back-to-back S16 appearances is a big deal for the program. It's being commemorated and celebrated in many ways and I'm all for it... the rings are kinda cheesey. And that is an opinion just like anything else on this board. I'm in no ways appauled and up in arms about it, I just think it's kinda silly, that's all. Maybe they should have a Sweet Sixteen trophy and all the players can bring it back to their hometowns and have a parade. Or maybe that's a little silly.
Well said.
I have halfheartedly looked online and I am seriously wondering. Is a Sweet 16 ring given by the University or is it given by the NCAA?
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 03, 2012, 04:34:56 PM
Well said.
So it's its simply the choice in jewelry that upsets you guys?
WTF is the is the difference?
Medallions/paperweights/rings/pocket watches.
Who. Cares.
For a borderline elite school, I think it's tacky. Big East Champions? Ok. As it stands, I'd think this is more appropriate:
(http://www.dinntrophy.com/Images/Product/lg/trbkb6xlarge.jpg)
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 03, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
So it's its simply the choice in jewelry that upsets you guys?
WTF is the is the difference?
Medallions/paperweights/rings/pocket watches.
Who. Cares.
Not upset, just think it's weak. Let's be honest, if it was ND or Madison giving out rings for tourney appearances and Sweet 16s, we'd be all over them.
But back-to-back Sweet 16?
I hope it comes again and again and again.
Give them all the effin rings they want!
Maybe we can rush the floor if we beat UW-Green Bay too?
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 04, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
Not upset, just think it's weak. Let's be honest, if it was ND or Madison giving out rings for tourney appearances and Sweet 16s, we'd be all over them.
I guess some people would because they are always looking for something.
I, personally, don't care. Those kids bust their ass all year. The team can give away whatever mementos they want.
Makes no difference to me. It could be bracelets, rings, etc. Whatever.
Wow. Three pages arguing about the appropriateness of a S16 ring. Riveting.
FYI, they gave rings out last year as well. I'm sure other schools celebrate accomplishments too. Recall the the entire 'scandal' at tOSU was about kids selling stuff they had received for participation in some secondary bowl game.
D1 players and coaches can receive up to $3780 in participation and championship awards...including a 24' HD TV for being in the BET.
http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/03/05/Colleges/College-gifts.aspx
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 04, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
D1 players and coaches can receive up to $3780 in participation and championship awards...including a 24' HD TV for being in the BET.
http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/03/05/Colleges/College-gifts.aspx
As long as it's not a ring, it's fine.
Quote from: jsglow on July 04, 2012, 08:14:35 AM
Wow. Three pages arguing about the appropriateness of a S16 ring. Riveting.
FYI, they gave rings out last year as well. I'm sure other schools celebrate accomplishments too. Recall the the entire 'scandal' at tOSU was about kids selling stuff they had received for participation in some secondary bowl game.
Arguing over S16 rings/participation trophies, etc. = First World problem.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 04, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
D1 players and coaches can receive up to $3780 in participation and championship awards...including a 24' HD TV for being in the BET.
http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/03/05/Colleges/College-gifts.aspx
Here's what players get for participating in the Big Ten Tournament:
All Sport hoodie, water bottle, cap.
No more excuses for losing another recruit to Wisconsin, although it is a
really nice water bottle.
Richmond Sweet 16 Ring
(http://www2.timesdispatch.com/mgmedia/image/0/354/185249/ur-1988-ring/)
Tennessee Elite 8 Ring
(http://l.yimg.com/lk/api/res/1.2/QwOvQFBuh7ItO4ctrciyNA--/YXBwaWQ9eW1lZGlhO2g9NDAwO3c9MzAw/http://mit.zenfs.com/190/2011/07/Fullscreen-capture-7252011-71057-AM.jpg)
UMass Sweet 16 Ring
(http://www.collectorsattic.com/ringimages/92umass1.jpg)
West Virginia Elite 8 Ring
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTju3EdAkiBqP1d047IQdP4dnF9QddJPeOw2HeWkktvU_nbEx79)
Uconn Elite 8 Ring
http://www.championship-rings.net/product_p/rcb95huskiesp.htm
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 03, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
It doesn't work that way--even if Syracuse vacates its wins, we keep our 2nd place finish. Just like Texas didn't become a Final Four team when Memphis vacated their win that put them in the Final Four.
So "vacate, no elevate" is not ring worthy. Got it.
Kentucky must not be elite. Elite 8 Ring.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/54c3uo.jpg)
^^
That's the ugliest ring I've ever seen.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
Kentucky must not be elite. Elite 8 Ring.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/54c3uo.jpg)
Wonder what Marquette Broad makes of this dude's fingernails?
...and Spartan3186 and Talltitan shoot the whole 'small time' argument out of the water. The powers-that-be chose to commemorate it. Hey, maybe that is what Buzz and Larry were arguing about. ::)
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 05, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
Wonder what Marquette Broad makes of this dude's fingernails?
He could definitely use a manicure.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 05, 2012, 10:53:36 AM
He could definitely use a manicure.
Surprised if he can "score" with nails like that, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 05, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
Wonder what Marquette Broad makes of this dude's fingernails?
Who is that?
BTW, whoever is holding this ring is an epic nail-biter. But at least there is no crud under them.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 05, 2012, 01:18:02 PM
BTW, whoever is holding this ring is an epic nail-biter. But at least there is no crud under them.
We don't know that. Some very dirty things can blend in with the color of fingernails.
Are there any pictures of these rings actually being WORN? Are they sized for the specific player or just made to be put.........inside of a box?
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 05, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
We don't know that. Some very dirty things can blend in with the color of fingernails.
Are there any pictures of these rings actually being WORN? Are they sized for the specific player or just made to be put.........inside of a box?
I think that holding a ring to take a picture of it is a guy thing. A girl would never do that. Have you ever seen a picture of a girl showing off her engagement ring where she is holding it between her thumb and forefinger?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
Kentucky must not be elite. Elite 8 Ring.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/54c3uo.jpg)
That's in addition to the Navigator to every athlete.
can someone actually post a picture of the ring... the OP has no picture in it for me.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on July 06, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
can someone actually post a picture of the ring... the OP has no picture in it for me.
Yes it does.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on July 06, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
can someone actually post a picture of the ring... the OP has no picture in it for me.
I'm surprised some of you elderly people can find the internet so consistently :P
(http://i.imgur.com/Kuf4Y.png)
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on July 06, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
can someone actually post a picture of the ring... the OP has no picture in it for me.
try the 1st page of this thread ;)
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on July 06, 2012, 12:25:17 PM
That's in addition to the Navigator to every athlete.
No, no. A Ford Expedition for elite eight, the Navigator requires a final four appearance. Second place is a Hummer, and national championship gets a Mercedes SUV.
Kinda figure the team gets a lot of second place rewards. At least I hope so.
that ring is really sweet