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Title: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: MUfan12 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
He and Lin were granted the early Bird rights... If I'm reading this correctly he'll be in line for $5 million next season.

Definitely beltworthy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/sports/basketball/jeremy-lin-granted-early-bird-rights.html?smid=tw-share
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: drewm88 on June 22, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
I still don't get why it was ruled this way, but I'm not complaining. Congrats, Steve!
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 22, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on June 22, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
I still don't get why it was ruled this way, but I'm not complaining. Congrats, Steve!

Agreed.  It's great for Steve, but it makes no sense that he'd retain his Bird rights. 
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: MUSF on June 22, 2012, 09:14:24 PM

Am I the only one that really wishes there was a way that Steve could end up with Miami? How lethal would he be with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh collapsing the D?
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: nyg on June 22, 2012, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: MUSF on June 22, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
Am I the only one that really wishes there was a way that Steve could end up with Miami? How lethal would he be with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh collapsing the D?

The big news today was that Ray Allen may really, really want to go to the Heat.  I like Novak, but Allen on the Heat would be just insane for your reasons above (and the talking sports heads who agree).
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: forgetful on June 22, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: nyg on June 22, 2012, 09:21:58 PM
The big news today was that Ray Allen may really, really want to go to the Heat.  I like Novak, but Allen on the Heat would be just insane for your reasons above (and the talking sports heads who agree).

That would be pretty insane.  I believe that a team of Wade, Allen, Bosh...or Lebron, Allen, Bosh would be better than the Wade, Lebron, Bosh team.  Due to the ability to stretch the D.

A team of Wade, Allen, Lebron, Bosh would be insane.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: The Process on June 22, 2012, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: forgetful on June 22, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
That would be pretty insane.  I believe that a team of Wade, Allen, Bosh...or Lebron, Allen, Bosh would be better than the Wade, Lebron, Bosh team.  Due to the ability to stretch the D.

A team of Wade, Allen, Lebron, Bosh would be insane.

Agree on the second part (that it'd be insane), disagree on the first bit.  LBJ/Allen/Bosh isn't in the same stratosphere as LBJ/Wade/Bosh.  Allen's in the last couple years (if that) of his career; Wade's still got a lot left AND is currently a lot better than Allen.  I could see Allen replacing Mike Miller as the 3 point gunner, but I think you'll see the Heat go small a lot more with Allen onboard and go Bosh/LBJ/Wade/Allen/PG (pick either of their two current PGs) for some stretches of a game.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 23, 2012, 12:18:25 AM
Novak on the Heat would be insane. Kick out by Bron...Novak with a high Durant-like release for three!
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on June 23, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
I really thought Novak should have been a 1st round selection back in 2006.  It was hard to understand how Adam Morrison could go #3 and Novak all the way back at #32.  I mean.....Novak tested just as athletic as Morrison.....so if athleticism was such a knock,  how could Morrison go at #3???  Obviously Morrison was drafted WAY too high,  but it's clear Novak didn't get the benefit of the doubt Morrison was getting.  Look who's laughing now. 
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: GGGG on June 23, 2012, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on June 23, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
I really thought Novak should have been a 1st round selection back in 2006.  It was hard to understand how Adam Morrison could go #3 and Novak all the way back at #32.  I mean.....Novak tested just as athletic as Morrison.....so if athleticism was such a knock,  how could Morrison go at #3???  Obviously Morrison was drafted WAY too high,  but it's clear Novak didn't get the benefit of the doubt Morrison was getting.  Look who's laughing now. 


Yes...Novak is better than Adam Morrison.  Not exactly a high hurdle to jump over.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on June 23, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
He's going to celebrate by going to the Sox/brewers game:

"Steve Novak, Wisconsin-native, Marquette University graduate and NBA forward will throw out a ceremonial first pitch.  Novak, who plays forward with the New York Knicks, played alongside Dwyane Wade during Marquette's 2003 Final Four run.  Originally from Brown Deer, Wis., Novak proposed to his wife Christina six years ago at U.S. Cellular Field."

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20120622&content_id=33739338&c_id=cws
(http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20120622&content_id=33739338&c_id=cws)
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: sailwi on June 23, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
I'm glad I read the SOX link, game was on at a bar last night and every time they showed the crowd all I could think was fat , mullet headed south siders then I read it was mullet night so obviously not everyone's natural do.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: The Process on June 23, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
The best part of last night's game was that I had BOTH starting pitchers on my fantasy baseball team. I do love pitchers duels in those situations  ;D
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: esotericmindguy on June 23, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 23, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
The best part of last night's game was that I had BOTH starting pitchers on my fantasy baseball team. I do love pitchers duels in those situations  ;D

Fantasy baseball, really?
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on June 23, 2012, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on June 23, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Fantasy baseball, really?

I love fantasy baseball.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: The Process on June 23, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on June 23, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Fantasy baseball, really?

Yes - gotta keep me busy when fantasy basketball's not in season.

But back to the topic here:  With the Bird rights here, how much will Novak get from the Knicks?
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: nyg on June 23, 2012, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 23, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
Yes - gotta keep me busy when fantasy basketball's not in season.

But back to the topic here:  With the Bird rights here, how much will Novak get from the Knicks?

5 Million
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: The Process on June 23, 2012, 03:34:21 PM
Quote from: nyg on June 23, 2012, 02:56:10 PM
5 Million

ESPN's saying "up to $5 million:" (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8085646/ruling-gives-jeremy-lin-chauncey-billups-bird-rights-affects-cap)

QuoteThe ruling is especially huge for the Knicks. They can now retain Lin, Novak and Landry Fields at up to $5 million each and then sign an additional player at $3 million or less with their mid-level exception

So the questions now are as follows:

1.  Is Novak actually worth $5 million?
2.  Will the Knicks be willing to offer $5 million?

He's come a long way from when I'd see him outside of Dunkin Donuts scarfing down an entire box of deliciousness...
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: MUSF on June 23, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 23, 2012, 03:34:21 PM
ESPN's saying "up to $5 million:" (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8085646/ruling-gives-jeremy-lin-chauncey-billups-bird-rights-affects-cap)

So the questions now are as follows:

1.  Is Novak actually worth $5 million?
2.  Will the Knicks be willing to offer $5 million?

He's come a long way from when I'd see him outside of Dunkin Donuts scarfing down an entire box of deliciousness...

1. To the right team, yes. (Lakers, Heat, Clippers, ?) To the Knicks, he shouldn't be.
2. Probably, but I don't think they should. I say probably because he's a popular player, and the Knicks won't realize that they should blow that team up until it's 2-3 years too late.
Title: Re: Novak wins arbitration case
Post by: wyzgy on June 24, 2012, 04:31:12 AM
kirk heinrich-11 mil, raef lafenz-11.8, wally szczerbiak-12 mil, larry hughs-12 mil, kenyon martin 13 mil.....by these standards, the knicks are stealing!! ;D
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