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Title: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Clam Crowder on June 12, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Mark Miller reporting he is visiting with 2 underclassmen from Chicago Orr. I don't know who those other two are but Stone is skyrocketing. What he did at the Elite 100 has garnered alot of attention. Dave Telep said Diamond was the best prospect he has seen at the Elite 100 in the last decade. This kid will be a tough get, but could you imagine? He could easily end up being the number 1 prospect in his class.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Wade for President on June 12, 2012, 09:42:55 AM
Holy.  Crap.  I read that subject title and immediately thought of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY)

Let's go Buzz!
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 12, 2012, 09:52:21 AM
Let's hope his buddy Duane Wilson is putting on the hard sell all day every day.  Stone would be a program-changer, not only in terms of wins but in terms of the way MU is perceived by both big men and elite players of all positions.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: esotericmindguy on June 12, 2012, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: jhags15 on June 12, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Mark Miller reporting he is visiting with 2 underclassmen from Chicago Orr. I don't know who those other two are but Stone is skyrocketing.  

Probably these two:

9.Marlon Jones    Chicago Orr
After one viewing Jones one weekend, I would have him higher, but after a second viewing

10. Tyquone Greer    Chicago Orr
Probably too low, but Greer still has work to do as a perimeter scorer. He is a slasher and great at finishing in transition. I'd like to see him develop his ball handling and jump shot.

Stone Cold posted Brad Sturdy's top 10 prospects for Chicago 2014 and these two rounded out the list.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: GGGG on June 12, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Stone has been on campus before and he will undoubtedly be on campus again.  This has a long way to go before being decided.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 12, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
Gotta think Stone is the current Joe Wolf with respect to the importance to this program.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: The Lens on June 12, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
He hasn't even started his sophomore year.  There is A LOT of golf left.  Great that he's on campus but I would never expect a 14 year old to select his college before sophomore year of HS.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Clam Crowder on June 12, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
I am not saying he is gonna commit...I am just pretty excited to have the number 3 prospect in that class on our campus so early in the game. Tyquone Greer is also a good player, 4 star on Rivals
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on June 12, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 12, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
Gotta think Stone is the current Joe Wolf with respect to the importance to this program.

More like a reverse Joe Wolf.  

Wolf choosing UNC over MU was the death knell for the program for years.  Losing Stone would not do that this time around, especially given the 2013 class coming in already.  However, getting Stone, could (repeat could) vault MU into that elite group of schools that "one and two and done" kids go to.  Think Michigan State and/or Kansas.

Finally, I thought Tokoto was the "Joe Wolf" for MU.  remind me how MU has suffered since Tokoto went to UNC.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on June 12, 2012, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: The Lens on June 12, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
He hasn't even started his sophomore year.  There is A LOT of golf left.  Great that he's on campus but I would never expect a 14 year old to select his college before sophomore year of HS.

Buzz should just let him verbal so he doesn't have to deal with as much of the craziness for the next 3 years. Handshake deal that he will open it up after his Junior year to explore all his options.

win win for everyone right? or maybe I'm a little biased in my opinion.

Buzz - wouldn't leave or be let go for the next 3 years at least. Could also recruit other high level pieces to put around him during that time.
Stone - no craziness and phone calls around the clock. options still open down the line.
Fans - We can pull the just wait till 2015 card whenever we get down.

Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 12, 2012, 10:12:52 AM
Wow... Buzz is just running a turnstile of elite talent coming in for visits lately. Gotta love how he's putting it on early with guys like Stone (and hopefully, Looney) and trying to get Nunn in as well.  2013 class looks electric and maybe getting better.  Making the right "stay local" pitch right now could help in the long-run as well.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: LAZER on June 12, 2012, 10:15:02 AM
It would be nice if by the time Stone chooses his school there's a new "2 and done" rule in place.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 12, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 12, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Stone has been on campus before and he will undoubtedly be on campus again.  This has a long way to go before being decided.

I agree, but we have to get him on campus early and often, so this is nothing but a good thing.  Hopefully Wilson & Burton are there with him a few times over the next year so he can get comfortable with his potential future running mates.  Would be nice to get the three of them in the gym together for some pickup games along with Looney too.  Oh god now I'm hyperventilating.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: MerrittsMustache on June 12, 2012, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on June 12, 2012, 10:10:44 AM
Buzz should just let him verbal so he doesn't have to deal with as much of the craziness for the next 3 years. Handshake deal that he will open it up after his Junior year to explore all his options.

win win for everyone right? or maybe I'm a little biased in my opinion.

Buzz - wouldn't leave or be let go for the next 3 years at least. Could also recruit other high level pieces to put around him during that time.
Stone - no craziness and phone calls around the clock. options still open down the line.
Fans - We can pull the just wait till 2015 card whenever we get down.


Verbal or not, if he's as good as advertised, he'll still get plenty of phone calls.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Room510 on June 12, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
The Chicago recruits are Orr HS 6'7 PF Marquis Pryor and 6'6 WF Tyquone Greer per Ill Prep Bullseye
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: GGGG on June 12, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on June 12, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
More like a reverse Joe Wolf. 

Wolf choosing UNC over MU was the death knell for the program for years. 


No the roots of the problem ran deeper than that.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Bocephys on June 12, 2012, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Jamailman on June 12, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
I agree, but we have to get him on campus early and often, so this is nothing but a good thing.  Hopefully Wilson & Burton are there with him a few times over the next year so he can get comfortable with his potential future running mates.  Would be nice to get the three of them in the gym together for some pickup games along with Looney too.  Oh god now I'm hyperventilating.

Agreed, start forming that relationship early and hope his momma wants him playing close to home.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Pakuni on June 12, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on June 12, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Finally, I thought Tokoto was the "Joe Wolf" for MU.  remind me how MU has suffered since Tokoto went to UNC.

I thought Brian Butch was the "Joe Wolf" for MU.
Old timers and their Joe Wolf fetish ....
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Slim on June 12, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
Can someone describe a typical "visit"? Does it involve a scrimmage with the team? With other recruits? With recent grads?

Is there time with just the team and no coaches? Is it typically overnight? Do they ask the ugly girls to stay locked in their rooms?

Do they typically meet with the athletic director or any higher ups? Is there time with the residence halls or academic advisers? Do they meet with influential grads?

I saw DW call Stone his "partner in crime", I hope he can reel him in.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on June 12, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
It will be fun to watch "Milwaukee's Best" compete as Warriors across the planet!
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on June 12, 2012, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 12, 2012, 10:24:04 AM

No the roots of the problem ran deeper than that.

Agreed, the BBall program was reeling in the early 1980s and everyone was hoping Wolf going to MU would reverse the slide.

Now there is no slide in the program.  So if Butch passes on MU, Jmay transfers, Tokoto passes on MU, the program just keeps rolling along.

Stone is not this era's Joe Wolf, their is no Joe Wolf for MU.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Goose on June 12, 2012, 11:25:18 AM
Exciting time to be Warrior fan. Buzz is putting on a show right now and fingers crossed we land a whale or two.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 12, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
I disagree. Still no elite bigs in the program. Won't see the benefit, and what it means to the the program, until we snag some. Stone can set that in motion.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: GGGG on June 12, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 12, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
I disagree. Still no elite bigs in the program. Won't see the benefit, and what it means to the the program, until we snag some. Stone can set that in motion.


A front line of Wilson, McKay and Steve Taylor is most assuredly tall enough to go far in the NCAA tournament.  Butler went to back-to-back championship games with a 6'8" center.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: 🏀 on June 12, 2012, 11:55:27 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 12, 2012, 11:53:46 AM

A front line of Wilson, McKay and Steve Taylor is most assuredly tall enough to go far in the NCAA tournament.  Butler went to back-to-back championship games with a 6'8" center.

Not to knock those guys, but I think 4ever meant something different with the 'elite bigs' description.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: GGGG on June 12, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I know what he meant, but I just don't think it is necessary to have "elite bigs."  You can get there in other ways.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 12, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
Any word how this went?  Was he wearing MU shorts?
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: wadesworld on June 12, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 12, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
Any word how this went?  Was he wearing MU shorts?

He was wearing Indiana shorts while shaking his head in disbelief after exiting Carpenter Tower.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: jsglow on June 12, 2012, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on June 12, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
He was wearing Indiana shorts while shaking his head in disbelief after exiting Carpenter Tower.

Well played!
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Goose on June 13, 2012, 05:16:17 AM
As good as Stone is this should be a 100 page thread followed by same for Looney. Those two kids are game changers for the program. The local talent might be just the thing for Buzz to want to extend his stay in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 13, 2012, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: Goose on June 13, 2012, 05:16:17 AM
As good as Stone is this should be a 100 page thread followed by same for Looney. Those two kids are game changers for the program. The local talent might be just the thing for Buzz to want to extend his stay in Milwaukee.

Agreed.  Those two could really solidify what is turning into a nice stretch of recruiting that is local.  I'd love to see both in an MU uniform and playing with some of the guys they grew up with/around and show that Milwaukee can be a big stage to audition on in HS basketball.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: ibechillindoe on June 13, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 13, 2012, 12:31:20 PM
Agreed.  Those two could really solidify what is turning into a nice stretch of recruiting that is local.  I'd love to see both in an MU uniform and playing with some of the guys they grew up with/around and show that Milwaukee can be a big stage to audition on in HS basketball.

Everyone here seems optimistic about Stone, but from what I have read it seems like many are giving up on Looney. Any reason for that? Anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 13, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: ibechillindoe on June 13, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Everyone here seems optimistic about Stone, but from what I have read it seems like many are giving up on Looney. Any reason for that? Anyone heard anything?

Because people obsess over a non-project "big."  The mecca of all things Marquette basketball.

Looney sounds like he is going to be really, really good and has the sort of motor that Buzz will love.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 13, 2012, 02:19:21 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 13, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
Because people obsess over a non-project "big."  The mecca of all things Marquette basketball.

Looney sounds like he is going to be really, really good and has the sort of motor that Buzz will love.

I don't think he meant that anyone is doubting Looney's talent, I think he meant that people seem to be pessimistic about our chances of landing him.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: brewcity77 on June 13, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: ibechillindoe on June 13, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Everyone here seems optimistic about Stone, but from what I have read it seems like many are giving up on Looney. Any reason for that? Anyone heard anything?

The only person I've heard that seems to think we aren't really in the running is 4ever. Every article written about him has Marquette as one of the first names in the mix. I have no idea where Looney stands, but it certainly seems far too early to count us out. But who knows.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on June 13, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
Has Looney said when he plans to make a decision?
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on June 13, 2012, 05:22:21 PM
Ive read a lot of things from badger fans saying they think we will end up with 1 of them at least with Stone more likely.

but of course they think they will get 1 as well(they will think its the better 1) and that Koenig already owns our 2013 class by himself. So I wouldnt put much wait in them.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: strotty on June 13, 2012, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: msbjim on June 13, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
Has Looney said when he plans to make a decision?

He has scholarship offers from Marquette, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Tennessee and Georgetown. He hasn't taken any visits, doesn't have any favorites and is still early in the process. Just trying to move up the recruiting ranks and gain scholarship offers on the AAU circuit this summer.

He'll be a junior this fall, so there's really no need for him to rush his decision. I'd say he's pretty far away, to answer your question.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: Goose on June 13, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
4ever might just know his stuff on Looney. I think he said was long shot but not impossible.
Title: Re: Diamond Stone visiting today
Post by: brewcity77 on June 13, 2012, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: Goose on June 13, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
4ever might just know his stuff on Looney. I think he said was long shot but not impossible.

Don't at all mean to say he doesn't, just that his is the only voice I've heard listing us as a long-shot. Most seem to think we're one of the teams to beat. It'll be interesting because it sure sounds like he's been upping his stock as planned this summer.
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