This is a nice article. If you scroll down you find a nice gallery called "5 Men Who Shaped Marquette" Al Maguire is number 1. Guess who is number 2.
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/06/07/12/Crowder-Johnson-Odom-aim-to-silence-crit/landing_marquette.html?blockID=742356&feedID=5059
I'll guess Tom Crane ;D
According to the article it's:
1. Maguire
2. Wade
3. O'Neil
4. The three amigos
5. Cords
Quote from: downtown85 on June 12, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
According to the article it's:
1. Maguire
2. Wade
3. O'Neil
4. The three amigos
5. Cords
Then I don't put much stock in the article
Quote from: romey on June 12, 2012, 07:13:36 AM
Then I don't put much stock in the article
Same. We may not all love Tommy around here, but we all know he was a huge part of getting us where we are today.
Quote from: downtown85 on June 12, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
According to the article it's:
1. Maguire
2. Wade
3. O'Neil
4. The three amigos
5. Cords
I like that the Dominic James photo has him taking a jumper. I shuddered just thinking about him hoisting nine threes in a game again.
Quote from: Jamailman on June 12, 2012, 06:26:04 AM
Wrong. Dwayne Wade.
Wrong. It's Dwyane Wade. Not Dwayne.
Geez, and it's McGuire not Maquire for God's sakes!
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on June 12, 2012, 08:49:28 AM
Wrong. It's Dwyane Wade. Not Dwayne.
Yeah. Just riffing off his Tom "Crane" post. I'd never accidentally misspell our patron saint and my favorite NBA player ever's name.
For what it is, that list is very good. I think only the Three Amigos don't belong. Hard to argue they were more important in shaping MU than Bo Ellis/Butch Lee/Jerome Whitehead, for instance. The Three Amigos were very important to Tom Crean, because if he didn't recruit them he wouldn't have gotten the Indiana job. I think Kevin O'Neill rescued us, so it was good to see his name in there.
Quote from: CTWarrior on June 12, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
For what it is, that list is very good. I think only the Three Amigos don't belong. Hard to argue they were more important in shaping MU than Bo Ellis/Butch Lee/Jerome Whitehead, for instance. The Three Amigos were very important to Tom Crean, because if he didn't recruit them he wouldn't have gotten the Indiana job. I think Kevin O'Neill rescued us, so it was good to see his name in there.
You could argue that the three amigos stamped the brand on MU as "Guard U." We have been stocked with guard talent ever since and will be for the foreseeable future. Now with the success of Lazar, Jimmy, and Crowder, and with Taylor and McKay in the fold, we've clearly become a bit of a hotspot for the stretch 3/4 combo position as well. Now the only thing left that we need to get over the hump is the 5 spot, and if Otule & Gardner can dominate that position for the next two years (which I think they will if healthy), then we add Diamond Stone, we will start to become a destination type of program for all positions. Then we start hanging banners.
I don't wanna get
too far ahead of myself though.
/thinks about this scenario all day every day
Other than Wade, the entire Crean regime is non-discript in my book.
Quote from: CTWarrior on June 12, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
For what it is, that list is very good. I think only the Three Amigos don't belong. Hard to argue they were more important in shaping MU than Bo Ellis/Butch Lee/Jerome Whitehead, for instance. The Three Amigos were very important to Tom Crean, because if he didn't recruit them he wouldn't have gotten the Indiana job. I think Kevin O'Neill rescued us, so it was good to see his name in there.
Agree, this list is very good. I believe Bo Ellis should be 4th since he is the only player who was a star on two Final Four teams including the title.
I would put the three Amigos 5th because the jump into the Big East was so huge, and Cords 6th, and off the top of my head:
7. George Thompson because he was the first superstar Al needed to take it to another level, and of course remains a part of the broadcast effort.
8. Terry Rand, because we probably needed the one great year of going Elite 8 to really get on the radar as a lasting basketball schools - and in 1955 he was the dominant guy.
Then you can throw in Lee, Meminger, or yes Crean for selling the program nationwide when we needed a salesman and convincing Buzz to leave a head coaching gig to come here and for pulling together Wade.
No complaints with the list as-is.
WOAAHHHH!
"Here they are, two NCAA tournament berths and one Sweet 16 later."
ONE Sweet 16? I beg to differ, particularly since last year it was Crowder with the trey to tie and DJO with the trey to win!
Other than that mistake, great piece.
As much as some of you despise him, Crean should be on the list.
I like that Cords was there. He often goes overlooked, but he did a lot of work.
Amigos? Meh.
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on June 12, 2012, 10:26:58 AM
Agree, this list is very good. I believe Bo Ellis should be 4th since he is the only player who was a star on two Final Four teams including the title.
Not to mention a long-time (10 years) assistant coach at MU!
Quote from: mosarsour on June 12, 2012, 02:31:45 PM
As much as some of you despise him, Crean should be on the list.
I actually believe TC should be on the list instead of the Big 3. There are no Big 3 without TC, and TC did get MU back to the Final Four with D-Wade (which was a bit of a godsend and fortuitous timing of events in that Wade being Prop 48 and us being in C-USA at the time allowed us to sign him), and lastly Crean brought Buzz to MU - and by many accounts recommended Buzz for the Head Coaching job.
Always will be grateful to the guy for all of the above, so long as a couple of posters here don't take potshots at our current head coach to try to glorify the past....
Quote from: PTM on June 12, 2012, 03:10:30 PM
I like that Cords was there. He often goes overlooked, but he did a lot of work.
Amigos? Meh.
You could say Cords may have saved the university. Also, took the arrows for the Warriors fiasco, GT jersey eff up. DiUlio was such a disaster for MU putting it in the red and fragmenting support, and just alienating any sort of loyalty and identity, despite a solid vision. A Jesuit Hiroshima that still permeates today. Cords fired and hired, switched conferences upward and built out all of athletics and donor support while taking the university with him as Wild entered.