http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/59720/coaches-corner-marquettes-buzz-williams (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/59720/coaches-corner-marquettes-buzz-williams)
I like this quote: "I think it's so remarkable that we've been able to keep our core group together over the last four years. I'm extremely humbled that we have an institution that's been committed to helping our program have the stability that it's had."
And this one: "I think Steve Taylor is really, really good. In his high school career, his record was 95-4 (at Chicago's Simeon Career Academy). He won three consecutive state championships. He's gained 42 pounds since he signed a national letter of intent with us. I think he's a really, really good player. And I think he's an even better person. We still have one scholarship available. We may sign somebody else before we get to the fall. Who are the guys going to be? I don't know. But no one knew it was going to be D.J. or Jae last year."
Quote from: MisterDMU on June 05, 2012, 09:19:26 AM
I like this quote: "I think it's so remarkable that we've been able to keep our core group together over the last four years. I'm extremely humbled that we have an institution that's been committed to helping our program have the stability that it's had."
HIROSHIMA!!!!
Quote from: MisterDMU on June 05, 2012, 09:19:26 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/59720/coaches-corner-marquettes-buzz-williams (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/59720/coaches-corner-marquettes-buzz-williams)
"I think Steve Taylor is really, really good. In his high school career, his record was 95-4 (at Chicago's Simeon Career Academy). He won three consecutive state championships. He's gained 42 pounds since he signed a national letter of intent with us."
If he keeps gaining at this rate, can we call him Godzilla soon?
Measured 6'8.5 (in shoes) 208 lbs, with a 6'11 wingspan at the 2011 LeBron James Skills Academy.
I think Buzz misspoke this was from last summer which was 3 months before the LOI. I have a hard time believing he is 250 at this point. But the fact that he might be 220-230 in encouraging.
Curious, though, that he didn't mention Mayo at all when responding about his upcoming season. Mentions Vander, Junior, Gardner, Otule, Jamil and Lockett, but no Mayo.
Awesome interview, and this response, particularly the last line cracked me up:
After losing Crowder and Johnson-Odom, who will step into the leadership role for next season's team?
BW: It's so difficult to predict. When you look back at our tenure here, you never could predict who was going to be the next duo or the next threesome or whatever. Jae Crowder, just this last October, had never received one vote for honorable mention all-conference. Not one coach had ever voted for him. Six months later, he was named player of the year. When you go back to when I first got the job, Dominic James, Jerel McNeal, Wesley Matthews, the Three Amigos ... those guys were going to win even if Andy Katz was coaching the team.
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on June 05, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Curious, though, that he didn't mention Mayo at all when responding about his upcoming season. Mentions Vander, Junior, Gardner, Otule, Jamil and Lockett, but no Mayo.
http://www.youtube.com/v/e9n9iR7iJNE
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on June 05, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Curious, though, that he didn't mention Mayo at all when responding about his upcoming season. Mentions Vander, Junior, Gardner, Otule, Jamil and Lockett, but no Mayo.
No mention of Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson or Jake Thomas either.
And why does he talk up Steve Taylor, but not Jamal Ferguson or TJ Taylor???
Oh, Lord, what could it mean?????
Does anyone else read Buzz interviews in your head with Buzz's raspy post-game voice?
Quote from: Tigidal on June 05, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
Does anyone else read Buzz interviews in your head with Buzz's raspy post-game voice?
YES! It makes it all the more awesome!
I noticed that as well, but he was talking about Leadership for next year and he bascially mentioned all the JR's and SR's. If they would have asked him last year would he have metioned DG, Vander or J Wilson?
Man oh man...I love Buzz.
I cannot wait for the game aboard the carrier. I'm hoping they reach out to Sailors and Marines that went through the ROTC programs of both schools for tickets.
I've always wanted to write Buzz and invite him to Bethesda. I should talk to our PR and Casualty Affairs people that organize and escort celebrities and other such guests.
I work on the Wounded Warrior unit, and I think back to when Coach read that letter from a deployed Soldier to the team. I think the team seeing our troops after sustaining their injuries...ranging from gunshot wounds to IED blasts, would motivate them to no end.
radome, you out there boss? I think it'd be kind of cool for Buzz to check out the Bulldog sessions!
I think it was my sophomore year that we were out doing track workouts one morning when the women's team was also putting in work. My group was running a cool down lap in formation, and one of the taller women came in and interrupted our formation as she sprinted past....no, THROUGH us, haha.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 10:06:13 AM
No mention of Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson or Jake Thomas either.
And why does he talk up Steve Taylor, but not Jamal Ferguson or TJ Taylor???
Oh, Lord, what could it mean?????
Well, lets be real here. Mayo is expected to be one of our best players next year. Derrick, Juan, and Jake are probably not expected to do much. Derrick will be on the bench alot, Juan wont be able to bulk up like he needs to, and Jake is a walk-on who hasn't played at this level yet. For him to not talk about someone who contributed as much as Todd is somewhat interesting. Also Steve Taylor is our best recruit for next year so of course he was explicitly mentioned vs. a JUCO who many don't respect as much as they should, and a lower rated player.
Everyone is worried about Mayo. If there is a name to come out of Hiroshima it will almost definitely be Todd Mayo.
Great read. Love the stuff Buzz talks about.
Also, Buzz mentions Mike Broeker, and not Larry Williams. I assume that is a shot across Larry's bow. Right?
Let the quote dissection begin.
Quote from: jhags15 on June 05, 2012, 10:56:50 AM
Well, lets be real here. Mayo is expected to be one of our best players next year. Derrick, Juan, and Jake are probably not expected to do much. Derrick will be on the bench alot, Juan wont be able to bulk up like he needs to, and Jake is a walk-on who hasn't played at this level yet. For him to not talk about someone who contributed as much as Todd is somewhat interesting. Also Steve Taylor is our best recruit for next year so of course he was explicitly mentioned vs. a JUCO who many don't respect as much as they should, and a lower rated player.
Everyone is worried about Mayo. If there is a name to come out of Hiroshima it will almost definitely be Todd Mayo.
Well, let's be real here. Some people have become so emotionally invested in this Hiroshima business that they'll clutch on to just about anything to validate their sense paranoia rather than, it seems, accepting the ever increasing likelihood that there wasn't much to the various conspiracy theories and rumors.
A poster above offered the most the logical reasoning for Mayo's absence... in a question about leadership for next year's squad, Buzz named exclusively the returning upperclassmen and none of the returning freshmen. Simple as that. Occam's razor, and all.
FWIW, it remains to be seen which Taylor is MU's best recruit next year.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 05, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
Great read. Love the stuff Buzz talks about.
Also, Buzz mentions Mike Broeker, and not Larry Williams. I assume that is a shot across Larry's bow. Right?
Let the quote dissection begin.
Oooohhh .... good one. Hadn't thought of that.
Obviously Buzz's not-so-subtle message that he wanted Broeker to get the AD job.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 10:06:13 AM
No mention of Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson or Jake Thomas either.
And why does he talk up Steve Taylor, but not Jamal Ferguson or TJ Taylor???
Oh, Lord, what could it mean?????
Steve Taylor eats himself out of a scholarship, transfers to Chicago State.
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 05, 2012, 11:17:08 AM
Steve Taylor eats himself out of a scholarship, transfers to Chicago State.
Or Illinois as their payback for Chew.
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 05, 2012, 11:17:08 AM
Steve Taylor eats himself out of a scholarship, transfers to Chicago State.
The second coming of Lloyd Moore???
Quote from: Tigidal on June 05, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
Does anyone else read Buzz interviews in your head with Buzz's raspy post-game voice?
+1 That's
exactly the way I read it.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 11:08:22 AM
Oooohhh .... good one. Hadn't thought of that.
Obviously Buzz's not-so-subtle message that he wanted Broeker to get the AD job.
Good thought, but it was obviously Buzz' not-so-subtle message to settle the Brewcity77 vs. Hoopaloop debate over who deserves credit for the scheduling. Score one for the Broeker side.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 11:07:09 AM
Well, let's be real here. Some people have become so emotionally invested in this Hiroshima business that they'll clutch on to just about anything to validate their sense paranoia rather than, it seems, accepting the ever increasing likelihood that there wasn't much to the various conspiracy theories and rumors.
A poster above offered the most the logical reasoning for Mayo's absence... in a question about leadership for next year's squad, Buzz named exclusively the returning upperclassmen and none of the returning freshmen. Simple as that. Occam's razor, and all.
FWIW, it remains to be seen which Taylor is MU's best recruit next year.
Hey, I'm not in the "tin-foil hat club", but I do like to hear all of the theories and then apply the facts to see what the likely outcome will be. To me, with all of the Hiroshima junk flying around about academics, with Mayo seemingly one of the most likely casualties, I look at what Buzz is saying about next season's team and my brain makes a connection about why Buzz didn't mention Mayo. Just one more indication to me that maybe he won't be here long.
I really hope that's not the case, but that's where the signs seem to be pointing.
Well, let's be real here. There is no parade that CAN'T be rained on, and no set of quotes from Buzz that can't be parsed to the point of being crushed into a fine powder and snorted, giving the user an intense period of melancholy.
Apparently now folks are parsing what he DOESN'T say. PROGRESS?
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on June 05, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
Hey, I'm not in the "tin-foil hat club", but I do like to hear all of the theories and then apply the facts to see what the likely outcome will be. To me, with all of the Hiroshima junk flying around about academics, with Mayo seemingly one of the most likely casualties, I look at what Buzz is saying about next season's team and my brain makes a connection about why Buzz didn't mention Mayo. Just one more indication to me that maybe he won't be here long.
I really hope that's not the case, but that's where the signs seem to be pointing.
Mayo is listed on the roster, here: http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/marq-m-baskbl-mtt.html
And he is back on campus, posted here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32554.msg393703#msg393703
FACTS!
Quote from: PJDunn on June 05, 2012, 11:26:35 AM
The second coming of Lloyd Moore???
Watch yourself, PJ...
Quote from: lab_warrior on June 05, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
Mayo is listed on the roster, here: http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/marq-m-baskbl-mtt.html
And he is back on campus, posted here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32554.msg393703#msg393703
FACTS!
FACT: Mayo missed team activities between the end of the basketball season and the end of the semester because he was working on maintaining his academic eligibility. This was told to me by someone close to the program and verified by others...including other Scoopers.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on June 05, 2012, 12:21:32 PM
Watch yourself, PJ...
As long as he walks fast you'll never catch him on those legs. He won't even have to break into a jog......
Quote from: lab_warrior on June 05, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
Well, let's be real here. There is no parade that CAN'T be rained on, and no set of quotes from Buzz that can't be parsed to the point of being crushed into a fine powder and snorted, giving the user an intense period of melancholy.
Apparently now folks are parsing what he DOESN'T say. PROGRESS?
Mayo is listed on the roster, here: http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/marq-m-baskbl-mtt.html
And he is back on campus, posted here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32554.msg393703#msg393703
FACTS!
I am not trying to push the theory that Todd may be leaving the program but the fact that he is on campus (most likely taking summer school classes) does not mean anything. In fact it could mean that he needs to boost his GPA before Buzz gives him a full release because I know that if players leave with a bad GPA it can hurt the program in terms of graduation numbers needed to sustain your full amount of scholarships.
There was a player I helped out that was in this exact situation when I was in school at MU...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 05, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
FACT: Mayo missed team activities between the end of the basketball season and the end of the semester because he was working on maintaining his academic eligibility. This was told to me by someone close to the program and verified by others...including other Scoopers.
Here's another FACT: Those who've been verbally abused by madtown, Chicaloop, Pakuni, etc., do NOT have an emotional investment in anything negative happening to Marquette University or its basketball program. Nobody wants Todd Mayo to not make it. Everybody wants harmony between the administration and the coaching staff. The "emotional" ones are those who childishly namecall anyone who shares information they'd rather not hear.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Here's another FACT: Those who've been verbally abused by madtown, Chicaloop, Pakuni, etc., do NOT have an emotional investment in anything negative happening to Marquette University or its basketball program. Nobody wants Todd Mayo to not make it. Everybody wants harmony between the administration and the coaching staff. The "emotional" ones are those who childishly namecall anyone who shares information they'd rather not hear.
C'mon, Lenny, that's not exactly true.
Sultan has reported stuff people don't want to hear, and I don't recall him being continually admonished.
There is a way to present information without fear of being call a conspiracy nut.
Some of the tinfoil stuff is stupid, some of it is deserved. We had a 100+ page thread when Buzz TALKED to SMU. We were all wearing tinfoil that day, my friend.
I am pretty sure I was the one who said Mayo was back at campus. He was back at campus a couple of weeks ago, but I don't think that means anything. Hell he could have been here packing up his stuff, and even if he is in summer classes that could be what was already mentioned with the GPA situation. I have seen three players walking into the Al on a consistent basis so far this summer. Ox at about 7 am a couple of days a week, Vander, and Juan. We are not going to know until a random Friday during the summer at 3:55 PM.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Here's another FACT: Those who've been verbally abused by madtown, Chicaloop, Pakuni, etc., do NOT have an emotional investment in anything negative happening to Marquette University or its basketball program. Nobody wants Todd Mayo to not make it. Everybody wants harmony between the administration and the coaching staff. The "emotional" ones are those who childishly namecall anyone who shares information they'd rather not hear.
Verbally abused? Really? Verbally abused?
Good Lord.
Please find one instance in this hullabaloo where I've called someone a name, much less "verbally abused" them.
p.s. There's a big difference between suggesting someone is "emotionally invested" in something and calling that person "emotional." But I suspect you already know that.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 05, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
C'mon, Lenny, that's not exactly true.
Sultan has reported stuff people don't want to hear, and I don't recall him being continually admonished.
There is a way to present information without fear of being call a conspiracy nut.
Some of the tinfoil stuff is stupid, some of it is deserved. We had a 100+ page thread when Buzz TALKED to SMU. We were all wearing tinfoil that day, my friend.
If one believes that Scott Pilarz was hired by the BOT to oversee the demise of the basketball program and that he brought in Larry Williams to help him accomplish that you can rightly be labeled a conspiracy nut and a tinfoil hatter. I don't think anyone has suggested that. I think that people are concerned about what the fallout will be and should be from some of our players' off court problems. Further, people are concerned about the administration's relationship with Buzz. These concerns were exacerbated by things that people heard and read. To some, sharing those concerns amounts to being a tin foiler. I think that's unfair and inaccurate.
This is getting pretty silly. Every time something good happens it's going to be "see there were no problems". Then something bad happens, "guess we were reading the tea leaves right"...... and on and on....... all to be right for the illustrious internet rep.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 02:38:53 PM
If one believes that Scott Pilarz was hired by the BOT to oversee the demise of the basketball program and that he brought in Larry Williams to help him accomplish that you can rightly be labeled a conspiracy nut and a tinfoil hatter. I don't think anyone has suggested that. I think that people are concerned about what the fallout will be and should be from some of our players' off court problems. Further, people are concerned about the administration's relationship with Buzz. These concerns were exacerbated by things that people heard and read. To some, sharing those concerns amounts to being a tin foiler. I think that's unfair and inaccurate.
You're right, but I think the problem was that a lot of what people were reading and eventually taking as "fact" were speculative statements made by posters going off the little information that we all know.
EXAMPLES:
- It has been repeated several times that larry is a "football guy", when there isn't any proof of that in his professional AD career.
- Some people think Larry and Buzz don't get along, and use the newspaper quotes as "evidence". We don't really know if those quotes were an issue for them or not.
- Something about the "ND way" was repeated on several occasions, and seemed to make people more paranoid.
- The radio interview Buzz gave at 540ESPN was seen as some sort of veiled communication directed towards MU admin, esp. when talking about JUCO players.
Etc. etc.
Some of the tinfoil stuff has gone overboard. Some of it was earned, IMHO.
Quote from: Stone Cold on June 05, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
This is getting pretty silly. Every time something good happens it's going to be "see there were no problems". Then something bad happens, "guess we were reading the tea leaves right"...... and on and on....... all to be right for the illustrious internet rep.
What's really silly is that once again another thread, this one an ESPN Article on Buzz, has turned into the same old tired, bullshit arguments. There are dozens more like this.
Quote from: Stone Cold on June 05, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
This is getting pretty silly. Every time something good happens it's going to be "see there were no problems". Then something bad happens, "guess we were reading the tea leaves right"...... and on and on....... all to be right for the illustrious internet rep.
Bingo.
Truth is, we don't know sh*t, and we shouldn't be afraid to admit that.
Speculation is fun (its a message board), but let's not try so hard to solve the mystery of MU hoops.
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 05, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
As long as he walks fast you'll never catch him on those legs. He won't even have to break into a jog......
I'll have Laz or Newman or Foley chase him down. Then I'll sit on him.
1)Buzz has always demanded allot of his Player's in regard to class. They had to run Killer's a few years back after Acker missed a class in April right befor he graduated.
2)We just landed the Top JUCO in the country, we must be able to recruit them.
3)in the interview buzzed praised the UNIV and the Admin for making it possible to keep his staff intact.
4)We just hired Chew for a ton of money, which LW and the Pres had to be on board with.
5)Broeker has been and still is in charge of the BBALL team and Scheduling, The fact that he was the one talking with Buzz about the OSU game makes complete sense.
LLRj - thank you for your work on the Wounded Warrior Project" - awe inspiring.
I saw Steve on campus Saturday. I thought he was CO. He is taller and bulkier than I expected. Still sportin' the Simeon wear.
Buzz's voice concerns me. I think his coaching career will end someday because of permanent damage to his voice - not for lack of happiness.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
Verbally abused? Really? Verbally abused?
Good Lord.
Please find one instance in this hullabaloo where I've called someone a name, much less "verbally abused" them.
p.s. There's a big difference between suggesting someone is "emotionally invested" in something and calling that person "emotional." But I suspect you already know that.
Verbal abuse may have been a poor choice of words, but suggesting that people are nutty or paranoid certainly isn't a compliment. The worst to me, thogh, is suggesting that people are so "emotionally invested" that they prefer bad outcomes for MU if it means their opinions are vindicated. That's not me, and I doubt it's any other Marquette fan.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
Verbal abuse may have been a poor choice of words, but suggesting that people are nutty or paranoid certainly isn't a compliment. The worst to me, thogh, is suggesting that people are so "emotionally invested" that they prefer bad outcomes for MU if it means their opinions are vindicated. That's not me, and I doubt it's any other Marquette fan.
That would be bad.
Of course, I never said or suggested anyone would
prefer bad outcomes to vindicate their positions.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 05, 2012, 03:58:51 PM
That would be bad.
Of course, I never said or suggested anyone would prefer bad outcomes to vindicate their positions.
In that case I apologize for misinterpreting your post.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 05, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
FACT: Mayo missed team activities between the end of the basketball season and the end of the semester because he was working on maintaining his academic eligibility. This was told to me by someone close to the program and verified by others...including other Scoopers.
Be careful, dude! Stating facts is what got you in trouble over at MarquetteHoops.com, right?
Quote from: Slim on June 05, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
LLRj - thank you for your work on the Wounded Warrior Project" - awe inspiring.
absolutely. wounded warrior is a great service and it is sad that uncle sam isn't taking care of all of this and it has to go to private donors.
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 05, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Be careful, dude! Stating facts is what got you in trouble over at MarquetteHoops.com, right?
The difference is that these mods won't declare victory and lock down the thread.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
Verbal abuse may have been a poor choice of words, but suggesting that people are nutty or paranoid certainly isn't a compliment. The worst to me, thogh, is suggesting that people are so "emotionally invested" that they prefer bad outcomes for MU if it means their opinions are vindicated. That's not me, and I doubt it's any other Marquette fan.
:o
The problem when you say "that's not me" is disingenuous. It is you and it is many people here.
You were probably outraged then at PRN, Leever and others saying to posters here, myself included, that we are in need of medication, are literally crazy or need psychological help and offering clinical help.
I don't disagree with what you said, but the fact that you and others have participated in the very thing you don't care for deserves a :o
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2012, 02:38:53 PM
If one believes that Scott Pilarz was hired by the BOT to oversee the demise of the basketball program and that he brought in Larry Williams to help him accomplish that you can rightly be labeled a conspiracy nut and a tinfoil hatter. I don't think anyone has suggested that. I think that people are concerned about what the fallout will be and should be from some of our players' off court problems. Further, people are concerned about the administration's relationship with Buzz. These concerns were exacerbated by things that people heard and read. To some, sharing those concerns amounts to being a tin foiler. I think that's unfair and inaccurate.
:o
Quote from: Hoopaloop on June 08, 2012, 09:12:24 AM
:o
The problem when you say "that's not me" is disingenuous. It is you and it is many people here.
You were probably outraged then at PRN, Leever and others saying to posters here, myself included, that we are in need of medication, are literally crazy or need psychological help and offering clinical help.
I don't disagree with what you said, but the fact that you and others have participated in the very thing you don't care for deserves a :o
Hoop -
I did not say that to "posters here", just you. But anyway, I'm willing to concede that, perhaps, I was wrong and you do not need medication or therapy. Maybe you're just annoying.
Quote from: leever on June 08, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
Hoop -
I did not say that to "posters here", just you. But anyway, I'm willing to concede that, perhaps, I was wrong and you do not need medication or therapy. Maybe you're just annoying.
Oh that line will keep me laughing all weekend. Thanks!