McKay commits to MU
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/157017225.html
Hey the carrier pigeon has arrived!
whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the phone. Mckay committed? Get out!
We landed on the moon!!
Thanks for the timely update chock-filled with interesting information.....like.....what year he is coming.....comments from McKay himself......you know, stuff that many other sites not affiliated with Milwaukee or Marquette had nearly 72 hours ago.
or that he is from an MPS school, or what position does he play...
why does enlund / MJS even bother at this point...
Quote from: tower912 on June 04, 2012, 02:09:19 PM
Thanks for the timely update chock-filled with interesting information.....like.....what year he is coming.....comments from McKay himself......you know, stuff that many other sites not affiliated with Milwaukee or Marquette had nearly 72 hours ago.
When did this happen? :o
Quote from: madtownwarrior on June 04, 2012, 02:13:55 PM
why does enlund / MJS even bother at this point...
Yup. I remember when he was first hired he had a short run of putting up some good stuff. Actually made me retract some of the stuff I said about him. Since then he's been garbage. Regurgitated garbage.
So yeah, now it's back on.
Quote from: MUCrew on June 04, 2012, 02:41:45 PM
Yup. I remember when he was first hired he had a short run of putting up some good stuff. Actually made me retract some of the stuff I said about him. Since then he's been garbage. Regurgitated garbage.
So yeah, now it's back on.
Yep. Methinks we should all go mock him on Twitter. Oh, wait - he hasn't posted ANYTHING there since the Lockett signing a MONTH ago!
@tenlund on Twitter, if you're interested.
Anyone think of a creative hashtag we can use for when we rip on him?
Nice effort, Tom. Thanks for mailing that one in. ::)
This guy really is a joke.
Pretty convinced any semi-regular poster on here could blow him out of the water with very little effort. Truly a sad display of professionalism. Hate to say it, but he should be ashamed of the work he does.
Should really just read "TomEnlundSays" jack crap
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 04, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
This guy really is a joke.
Pretty convinced any semi-regular poster on here could blow him out of the water with very little effort. Truly a sad display of professionalism. Hate to say it, but he should be ashamed of the work he does.
Not to defend him, but he has has put out 7 Marquette articles in the last 8 days (Autry (1 blog, 1 article), Aki (1 blog, 1 article) , Chew (1 blog, 1article), and McKay (now with quotes).
He's also been working the state track meet and has put out about 10 articles on that.
While I would love for coverage to be better, I think it's kind of a uncalled for cheap shot to say people are a joke without knowing the hand they are playing.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Not to defend him, but he has has put out 7 Marquette articles in the last 8 days (Autry (1 blog, 1 article), Aki (1 blog, 1 article) , Chew (1 blog, 1article), and McKay (now with quotes).
He's also been working the state track meet and has put out about 10 articles on that.
While I would love for coverage to be better, I think it's kind of a uncalled for cheap shot to say people are a joke without knowing the hand they are playing.
Don't start injecting facts into this firestorm of baseless conjecture!
In all honestly, no one is getting their breaking news from him anyway, so why complain? If he pumps out a few in depth puff pieces a month and contributes some solid postgame quotes that otherwise won't be picked up by national media then I'm happy.
Quote from: Bocephys on June 04, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
Don't start injecting facts into this firestorm of baseless conjecture!
In all honestly, no one is getting their breaking news from him anyway, so why complain? If he pumps out a few in depth puff pieces a month and contributes some solid postgame quotes that otherwise won't be picked up by national media then I'm happy.
I agree. He does other things than the MU beat. Its June, not March.
For those defending Enlund, why did out of market papers have articles up about McKay's commitment & ramifications, as well as Chew's move to MU & ramifications within hours, yet it takes days for the hometown paper to get up a four sentence blurb about ANY positive news with zero insight or elaboration? It really is a complete joke. Hack reporting at its finest.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 04, 2012, 01:51:50 PM
Hey the carrier pigeon has arrived!
BTW Sultan, like the new photo!
Sorry if anyone else commented. I was on a silent three-day retreat PRAYING when McKay committed so learned of it just a little before the Journal.
Based on this experience, I believe I will skip the entire NCAA tournament next year for a month-long silent retreat, and then return to civilization in early April to read the Journal story on the National Championship LOL!
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PMNot to defend him, but he has has put out 7 Marquette articles in the last 8 days (Autry (1 blog, 1 article), Aki (1 blog, 1 article) , Chew (1 blog, 1article), and McKay (now with quotes).
He's also been working the state track meet and has put out about 10 articles on that.
While I would love for coverage to be better, I think it's kind of a uncalled for cheap shot to say people are a joke without knowing the hand they are playing.
If he's overworked, then get a staff writer or intern to throw something together. Both McKay and Chew were major stories about their hometown college basketball team. Milwaukee simply isn't on the map compared to Marquette in terms of college basketball, and sorry Potrykus, but the Badgers have their own paper called the Wisconsin State Journal.
I know that the MJS treats Marquette as second fiddle, but you can't break a story 2 1/2 days later and just get a pass. If Enlund is out of town or too busy, someone else should be at the very least getting something online and a blurb in the print edition.
While no one may be turning there first, it's disappointing to see such a lackluster product as our only newspaper. The MJS is a perfect example of why being a one-newspaper town is a losing proposition for the business. 25 years ago, it mattered who got the story out first. There was a reason to buy the afternoon paper, because it might actually have info that wasn't in the morning paper. Today, they can let significant local stories sit on the shelf for days because they know that there isn't a local competing paper that will scoop them. Not like anyone's driving down to Chicago for a Sun-Times or Trib (both of whom probably had both stories before the MJS, at least online).
Quote from: Jamailman on June 04, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
For those defending Enlund, why did out of market papers have articles up about McKay's commitment & ramifications, as well as Chew's move to MU & ramifications within hours, yet it takes days for the hometown paper to get up a four sentence blurb about ANY positive news with zero insight or elaboration? It really is a complete joke. Hack reporting at its finest.
Which out-of-market papers had stories about McKay and Chew?
Note: Chicago/Illinois papers don't count on the latter, given that was as much a U of Illinois story as a Marquette story.
Sorry to burst some bubbles, but outside the hardcore fanbase (i.e. the people who inhabit sites like this), the casual fan doesn't care all that much about the verbal commitment of some JUCO kid he or she has never heard of. We may think it's significant, but it's unlikely that the average person picking up the sports page would agree. Newspapers - and all media outlets - know very well which stories drive traffic and which stories don't, and use those figures to guide coverage. If the JS editors believe Enlund's time is better spent covering the state track meet than chasing down a verbal commitment at MU, it's probably because readership numbers tell them that's so.
What's interesting is all the anger directed at Enlund. For a bunch of people who don't like his coverage, the MJS, etc., you sure seem to crave their validation that this is important news. You all found out about McKay's commitment two days ago. Why does it matter to you when the MJS gets around to covering it?
Quote from: Bocephys on June 04, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
In all honestly, no one is getting their breaking news from him anyway, so why complain? If he pumps out a few in depth puff pieces a month and contributes some solid postgame quotes that otherwise won't be picked up by national media then I'm happy.
Because other, non-local news sources beat him to the punch not by hours... but by DAYS. And their articles make Enlund's look absolutely pathetic.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 04, 2012, 04:50:31 PM
I know that the MJS treats Marquette as second fiddle, but you can't break a story 2 1/2 days later and just get a pass. If Enlund is out of town or too busy, someone else should be at the very least getting something online and a blurb in the print edition.
While no one may be turning there first, it's disappointing to see such a lackluster product as our only newspaper. The MJS is a perfect example of why being a one-newspaper town is a losing proposition for the business. 25 years ago, it mattered who got the story out first. There was a reason to buy the afternoon paper, because it might actually have info that wasn't in the morning paper. Today, they can let significant local stories sit on the shelf for days because they know that there isn't a local competing paper that will scoop them. Not like anyone's driving down to Chicago for a Sun-Times or Trib (both of whom probably had both stories before the MJS, at least online).
Exactly. It's just a matter of time until the Urinal Sentinel goes the way of the New Orleans paper. Sad, but true. Their attempts to pander to their increasingly-apathetic subscriber base are not likely to succeed.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Not to defend him, but he has has put out 7 Marquette articles in the last 8 days (Autry (1 blog, 1 article), Aki (1 blog, 1 article) , Chew (1 blog, 1article), and McKay (now with quotes).
He's also been working the state track meet and has put out about 10 articles on that.
While I would love for coverage to be better, I think it's kind of a uncalled for cheap shot to say people are a joke without knowing the hand they are playing.
Ok, so really he's now put out 4 articles, as the blogs became much of the real article. As Brewcity said, if Enlund is otherwise occupied (whether it be at the state track meet or taking another nap on the couch in the back office), perhaps another writer on staff can get something, anything up on the blog... rather than waiting for the carrier pigeon to drop off the news.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
What's interesting is all the anger directed at Enlund. For a bunch of people who don't like his coverage, the MJS, etc., you sure seem to crave their validation that this is important news. You all found out about McKay's commitment two days ago. Why does it matter to you when the MJS gets around to covering it?
Because it's hilarious when Don Walker runs an endless stream of non-stories about MU basketball players at a nightclub *gasp* UNDERAGE yet whenever something good for Marquette happens... the Urinal Sentinel is sound asleep at the wheel. I'm sure if DJO *had* bought McKay's burger this weekend, Walker/Enlund would have had stories up breathlessly telling about each and every sortid detail behind the NCAA violation and how long MU was likely to be suspended from postseason play.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Sorry to burst some bubbles, but outside the hardcore fanbase (i.e. the people who inhabit sites like this), the casual fan doesn't care all that much about the verbal commitment of some JUCO kid he or she has never heard of.
Normally, I'd agree. But this is a local kid. An MPS product that has worked his way up to a high major, Big East program. In Milwaukee.
You don't think there's an audience for that type of story?
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 04, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
Because it's hilarious when Don Walker runs an endless stream of non-stories about MU basketball players at a nightclub *gasp* UNDERAGE yet whenever something good for Marquette happens... the Urinal Sentinel is sound asleep at the wheel. I'm sure if DJO *had* bought McKay's burger this weekend, Walker/Enlund would have had stories up breathlessly telling about each and every sortid detail behind the NCAA violation and how long MU was likely to be suspended from postseason play.
And by "Endless stream" you mean three blog posts (which, by the way, came about the same time as a post about MU merchandise sales on the rise ... another negative story)?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/archive/?startDate=03-01-2012&blogID=28007179&endDate=03-31-2012&archive=y
And if it's a non-story, why were there literally hundreds of posts about it here? And why was it picked up by national sites like ESPN? Seems like a story to me.
I was hoping we were past this conspiracy business.
Quote from: MUfan12 on June 04, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Normally, I'd agree. But this is a local kid. An MPS product that has worked his way up to a high major, Big East program. In Milwaukee.
You don't think there's an audience for that type of story?
There may be an audience, but the JS editors - right or wrong - apparently have decided it's not a significant one. Or at least not significant enough to pull someone off another assignment they deem more significant.
Maybe they're wrong. And it's fine to think so.
FWIW, from my own experience in the business, prep sports drive way more traffic to local news sites than college sports. So it gets the coverage.
Let's check the most read stories on the JS site tomorrow morning, and see if McKay is up there. I'm guessing it won't be.
All that said, it's silly to believe it's the result of some mass incompetence, or worse yet a conspiracy against Marquette.
My displeasure isn't just the lack of coverage for Marquette, it's a general decline in the quality of newspaper in Milwaukee. This morning's paper was a perfect example. There was a major fire yesterday that sent 5 Milwaukee firefighters to the hospital. 2 of them are still hospitalized. It was on all the news networks. Yet when I saw the front page of this morning's paper...nothing. I'm sure they'll cover it tomorrow, but this happened at 6:30 pm. That's plenty of time to get a story going. It's being investigated by ATF, not a small deal. And yet all they have on their website is a blurb.
If this is a 2-newspaper town, they would be showing this story the same attention the TV news outlets are. Maybe I'm biased because of my profession and my school, but if I'm one regular guy that can find two biases from that paper with woeful undercoverage, something tells me there are probably many other things going on around town that don't get the coverage they deserve.
I'm somewhat torn as far as what should happen to the MJS. Part of me thinks that the obvious direction of the paper is to go out of business, and that might simply be for the best because all the city of Milwaukee is getting is a shrinking paper with less and less worthwhile news while the cost of the daily goes up. I hate to see the newspaper business going the way of the dinosaur, but if the MJS is going to stand as the example of a local newspaper, it's probably for the best.
Try. It's all I ask. Read the "articles" he's pumping out about Marquette. Some of it seems word for word from other articles.
I'm not a journalist, so I have no idea what work goes into it, but sorry, Rosiak set a high bar for all of us and Endlund is WAY below it. Not asking for anything earth-shattering, but put some insight to the article. Something to differentiate yourself from the other stuff we've read.
Tom Enlund, you post here. You have any input or want to back other's concerns?
A poster on the Scout board used an example that shows the difference and why MU fans are displeased. On August 16th, the MJS ran a feature on Zac Schowalter (I believe of Germantown) when he accepted a walk-on spot at UW. Two weeks later Burton gets a 6 sentence article on page 7 for his commitment. This is especially disappointing since Burton seems like a very well-spoken kid who has stated he wants to be an example for young men in Milwaukee.
I feel that could have been a great opportunity to showcase one of the top basketball players in the nation that lives in our own city, who also seems like an impressive person.
Quote from: nyg on June 04, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Tom Enlund, you post here. You have any input or want to back other's concerns?
I don't think he posts here. We automatically receive his blog feed. And considering the responses those posts generate, it may be time to discontinue the feed.
Quote from: SoCalwarrior on June 04, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
I don't think he posts here. We automatically receive his blog feed. And considering the responses those posts generate, it may be time to discontinue the feed.
Makes sense now. The guy is getting totally bashed and can't believe he has not come forward in a defensive mode. Would have liked to hear what his response was, whether resource, manpower, budget, or whatever issue.
If an automatic feed, then maybe it took time to reach for an automatic Scoop posting or it is just not a timely issue for the paper.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2012, 05:14:27 PM
And by "Endless stream" you mean three blog posts (which, by the way, came about the same time as a post about MU merchandise sales on the rise ... another negative story)?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/archive/?startDate=03-01-2012&blogID=28007179&endDate=03-31-2012&archive=y
And if it's a non-story, why were there literally hundreds of posts about it here? And why was it picked up by national sites like ESPN? Seems like a story to me.
I was hoping we were past this conspiracy business.
3 stories on that topic - in a timely fashion from when things came out - is more than what we see for 99% of all other MU coverage. Negative news, admittedly, does sell. And a paper that is seeing its revenue drop like a brick is invariably going to try and focus on things that sells.
And how is this at all a "conspiracy?" We're pointing out a lack of timely coverage from a paper that is almost literally in MU's back yard. We're not saying that "Enlund and Walker are out to do a hatchet job on Marquette because Potrykus is bitter that Marquette stole Vander Blue from Madison."
That would be a conspiracy.
Quote from: SoCalwarrior on June 04, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
I don't think he posts here. We automatically receive his blog feed. And considering the responses those posts generate, it may be time to discontinue the feed.
Or make the threads locked when they automatically come out. Just my $0.02 as a relative newcomer to Scoop posting.
Potrykus covers both Badger football and basketball and often has two articles in the JS on the same day (while also posting at Badgermaniac). Enlund isn't killing himself--though perhaps the editors are the ones who don't give a crap.
The JS is part of an integrated media company. They have never managed their assets to reach full and modern day potential. Hell, people were ripping them on coverage for the nightclub incident, but they were two months late on that story. Two days late on MU makes Enlund look like a Pulitzer winner. Pay Mark Miller to post on prep and college news and be done with it.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
The JS is part of an integrated media company. They have never managed their assets to reach full and modern day potential. Hell, people were ripping them on coverage for the nightclub incident, but they were two months late on that story. Two days late on MU makes Enlund look like a Pulitzer winner. Pay Mark Miller to post on prep and college news and be done with it.
Or heck, just have an unpaid internship every semester with MU's journalism program to publish the blog/write articles in case Enlund is too "busy." Have one for Madison (they can work from Madison to publish their content so they can still attend classes) and one for Marquette... and I guess one for UWM (a program that people care even less about still). Free (minus the supervisory portion) work that gives students valuable real-world experience and the paper additional means to provide coverage? Sounds like a win-win for all.
One more thing: Just because Enlund manages to cover things 2 days late instead of 2 months doesn't mean he should get a cookie.
Quote from: Gato78 on June 04, 2012, 06:20:52 PM
Enlund isn't killing himself--though perhaps the editors are the ones who don't give a crap.
This.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
Pay Mark Miller to post on prep and college news and be done with it.
Pay him with what? The JS is a shrinking company, and more and more assets will be used to cover items that sell papers. It's not about "fair", or "news" or even "truth". It's about covering the items that people read.
This is the same reason why ESPN spends 10,000 hours discussing Red Sox vs Yankees and not Brewers vs Cardinals.
Competition for eyes has created a vacuum where "news" organizations aren't really providing news, but rather what they think people want to read/hear. The more readers/viewers = more ad sales.
In Milwaukee, and the state of Wisco, people don't care about MU enough to warrant a real beat writer. Why pay a guy when hardly anybody cares about MU stories?
The way this guy is covering Marquette, I'll be surprised if the JS even staffs a blogger to cover MU.
Sad to fathom the possibility of it happening.
JS seems to think high school track will garner big numbers.
Quote from: Stone Cold on June 04, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
JS seems to think high school track will garner big numbers.
Well, parents have kids that attend high school. Many of those high schools have participants in the meet. Parents like to buy keepsakes of their kids athletics. Maybe they're thinking that, maybe I'm over thinking the urinal yet again.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 04, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
One more thing: Just because Enlund manages to cover things 2 days late instead of 2 months doesn't mean he should get a cookie.
You should try non-teal some time
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 04, 2012, 06:45:15 PM
This.
Pay him with what? The JS is a shrinking company, and more and more assets will be used to cover items that sell papers. It's not about "fair", or "news" or even "truth". It's about covering the items that people read.
This is the same reason why ESPN spends 10,000 hours discussing Red Sox vs Yankees and not Brewers vs Cardinals.
Competition for eyes has created a vacuum where "news" organizations aren't really providing news, but rather what they think people want to read/hear. The more readers/viewers = more ad sales.
In Milwaukee, and the state of Wisco, people don't care about MU enough to warrant a real beat writer. Why pay a guy when hardly anybody cares about MU stories?
Ever hear of social media? Shared content? Mark Miller has a pay site that he appears to make a living off of (and he reports on all prep sports). Pretty sure he would be glad to take 5 minutes to post his news to JS Online in exchange for broader exposure. Since the JS would have no cost, it is something that other major media players call a win~in. Heck, maybe they could even have Mark on their radio or TV assets too? Welcome to the 21st century where speed is key.
It's the sign of the times for US newspapers, especially those not in major markets. The paper in New Orleans just mentioned that they were planning on reducing to 3 print days per week. Nobody is reading newspapers for their info like they used to.
I am sure if the J/S had a choice between a story on a new MU recruit who only verballed and a story about anything UW-Madison, UW-Madison wins out due to sheer numbers of interested subscribers.
It's all about editorial space v. ad space. $$
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Which out-of-market papers had stories about McKay and Chew?
Note: Chicago/Illinois papers don't count on the latter, given that was as much a U of Illinois story as a Marquette story.
Sorry to burst some bubbles, but outside the hardcore fanbase (i.e. the people who inhabit sites like this), the casual fan doesn't care all that much about the verbal commitment of some JUCO kid he or she has never heard of. We may think it's significant, but it's unlikely that the average person picking up the sports page would agree. Newspapers - and all media outlets - know very well which stories drive traffic and which stories don't, and use those figures to guide coverage. If the JS editors believe Enlund's time is better spent covering the state track meet than chasing down a verbal commitment at MU, it's probably because readership numbers tell them that's so.
What's interesting is all the anger directed at Enlund. For a bunch of people who don't like his coverage, the MJS, etc., you sure seem to crave their validation that this is important news. You all found out about McKay's commitment two days ago. Why does it matter to you when the MJS gets around to covering it?
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/jun/03/marquette-holds-serve-on-local-prospect/
This is a very comprehensive post from a MEMPHIS news outlet, whose hometown team LOST the recruiting battle. Provides a lot of nice color about past recruiting battles between Buzz and Pastner. Compare that to Enlund's lazy article about the HOMETOWN team nabbing a HOMETOWN prize.
I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm saying Enlund is bad at his job.
Quote from: Texas Warrior on June 04, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
It's the sign of the times for US newspapers, especially those not in major markets. The paper in New Orleans just mentioned that they were planning on reducing to 3 print days per week. Nobody is reading newspapers for their info like they used to.
I am sure if the J/S had a choice between a story on a new MU recruit who only verballed and a story about anything UW-Madison, UW-Madison wins out due to sheer numbers of interested subscribers.
It's all about editorial space v. ad space. $$
Print media is not dead, the printed form is dead. Ebay, Autotrader, Linked In, Facebook, Google, Trip Advisor, Quicken, Real Estate online, Job Noggin killed the printed form. Google/Comcast, iPad, Nook, You Tube took the production costs out. Who survives? ESPN digital, integrated media (live viewers/reality TV), fashion boutique, travel (Conde Naste), porn.
The conspiracy thing is a bag of horse dung. I simply want the same coverage that we were getting from this exact paper less than a year ago.
Rosiak was so close to the program that he he would often break stories like this. There was a time when people on this site wouldn't believe news until he backed it up (which was typically within just hours of it breaking elsewhere...not days). There were times he couldn't put out a full article, but he would give us a blurb (I like to call them an Enlund) and in that post let us know that a more in depth piece would come soon. There were check ins on how are commits are doing, open gym and individual workout reports, his weekly Q&A, complete coverage of the program.
Enlund could at least put in some effort. The quotes he has on McKay from his Juco coach were probably in the press release. TR would have had quotes from McKay and most likely his high school coach or some other local bball figure.
I am not asking for much, just at least pretend he cares about the program.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
You should try non-teal some time
Explain. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Quote from: Jamailman on June 04, 2012, 07:19:16 PM
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/jun/03/marquette-holds-serve-on-local-prospect/
This is a very comprehensive post from a MEMPHIS news outlet, whose hometown team LOST the recruiting battle. Provides a lot of nice color about past recruiting battles between Buzz and Pastner. Compare that to Enlund's lazy article about the HOMETOWN team nabbing a HOMETOWN prize.
I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm saying Enlund is bad at his job.
Game, set, match to Jamailman. Or maybe there weren't any high school track meets in Tennessee last week ;D
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on June 04, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Explain. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Sorry Captain. For some of us, the lost art of sarcasm is a sacred thing. For others, it needs to be explained using teal. Here is a hint: I actually agree with your point.
That said, I am a comedic legend .
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
Sorry Captain. For some of us, the lost art of sarcasm is a sacred thing. For others, it needs to be explained using teal. Here is a hint: I actually agree with your point.
That said, I am a comedic legend .
Oh, I'm well aware of the teal as sarcasm thing. I used to use it on Brewerfan.net all the time. Wasn't sure if you meant something else. As I said... I'm a little slow ;)
But - thanks for the explanation for those who don't get the teal thing!
EDIT: What threw me was the fact that your comment wasn't in teal lol...
Quote from: Stone Cold on June 04, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
JS seems to think high school track will garner big numbers.
And they're very likely correct.
Quote from: SoCalwarrior on June 04, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
I don't think he posts here. We automatically receive his blog feed. And considering the responses those posts generate, it may be time to discontinue the feed.
Hey, its off season, everyone needs
something to get their panties into a bunch about.
With all due respect to Tom Enlund, it's not about him. It's about story selection, editorial focus and maximizing J-S readership.
I'm as big a Warrior diehard as anyone. But I don't think the masses care about a Marquette recruiting coup in June. Same for the retention of an assistant coach. Now if this happened before or at Midnight Madness, then that's another story. For all newspapers, revenue and resources aren't there anymore. How many out-of-season Green Bay Packers stories do you see? Honestly, not a whole lot more than you do Marquette basketball stories.
The J-S is shrinking because the advertising revenue isn't there anymore. The vast majority of a profitable newspaper's revenues used to come from classified advertising -- those ads for used cars, used homes and used whatever. But when cars and homes went to the internet, so too did the extra pages in the newspaper and so too did stories in June about Marquette basketball.
The sad thing is that by themselves, neither the assistant coach, McKay's commitment or even Buzz's contract matters all that much. Taken as a whole, the story is huge. The story is what's happening at 12th and Wisconsin. That the program as a whole is in better shape now than it has been since Al departed in 1977. In effect, Enlund is so busy counting trees he doesn't realize that he's got a sequoia forest at his nose.
Ever since Al left, I've longed to say something I can proudly say today, with confidence. Despite the Hiroshima fans on this blog, I can only say......
WE"RE BACCCCCKKKKKKK!
(P.S. -- And we soon may be better than ever!!!!!)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 07:09:24 PM
Ever hear of social media? Shared content? Mark Miller has a pay site that he appears to make a living off of (and he reports on all prep sports). Pretty sure he would be glad to take 5 minutes to post his news to JS Online in exchange for broader exposure. Since the JS would have no cost, it is something that other major media players call a win~in. Heck, maybe they could even have Mark on their radio or TV assets too? Welcome to the 21st century where speed is key.
I agree with you 100%, but there are 2 barriers here:
#1 JS isn't the most savvy media organization, and cross-promotion with other sites is probably seen as more of a threat than a benefit.
#2 No free lunches. Even if Mark works for free, somebody at JS has to monitor/manage that information. It's not a big job, but from what I know, the JS is streamlining like crazy, so they aren't really keen on taking on more projects. Their business plan (right or wrong) seems to be to consolidate and become more efficient as readership drops.
*Personal Take*
"media" is becoming more specialized, and with online distribution channels, a person's bookmarks, Twitter and RSS become like a de facto newspaper. Instead of reading different sections of a newspaper, I visit different websites/blogs, each specializing in the content I want. Harder and harder for a media conglomerate to compete with that.
JS has the inside line on very localized, Milwaukee-specific news. Everything else, they are way down the list.
His main stories don't appear to get picked up here, so here's the feature posted late last night that you all have been clamoring for.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/mckay-expects-to-feel-at-home-at-marquette-d45lhsi-157106355.html
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Sorry to burst some bubbles, but outside the hardcore fanbase (i.e. the people who inhabit sites like this), the casual fan doesn't care all that much about the verbal commitment of some JUCO kid he or she has never heard of. We may think it's significant, but it's unlikely that the average person picking up the sports page would agree. Newspapers - and all media outlets - know very well which stories drive traffic and which stories don't, and use those figures to guide coverage. If the JS editors believe Enlund's time is better spent covering the state track meet than chasing down a verbal commitment at MU, it's probably because readership numbers tell them that's so.
What's interesting is all the anger directed at Enlund. For a bunch of people who don't like his coverage, the MJS, etc., you sure seem to crave their validation that this is important news. You all found out about McKay's commitment two days ago. Why does it matter to you when the MJS gets around to covering it?
+infinity
MJS: Hire strotty! ;D
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 05, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
MJS: Hire strotty! ;D
Well, MJS wouldn't be able to afford Strotty, unless it was an unpaid internship like I talked about earlier on this thread.
But... yeah - Strotty is going to make some news outlet INCREDIBLY happy.