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Title: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: GGGG on May 24, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
I don't know if I should feel good about this...
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on May 24, 2012, 01:12:14 PM
WOW!!!
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: LAZER on May 24, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
I don't know if I should feel good about this...

Ha it's funny how that works.  When you're a program like MU you don't want your local talent to be TOO good.  Seems like he's gonna have a spot at the school of his choice.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: The Lens on May 24, 2012, 01:42:04 PM
Lots can happen but we're in a good place.

Buzz has been at MU since this kid was in 6th place.  Meaning Buzz is in a better spot, with a better track record than he was with JPT.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: GGGG on May 24, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Ha it's funny how that works.  When you're a program like MU you don't want your local talent to be TOO good.  Seems like he's gonna have a spot at the school of his choice.


No, I want him to be very good.  I just don't want him to be ranked too high!
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 24, 2012, 01:53:18 PM
I don't know if I should feel good about this...
My son's friend is a teammate of Stone on his AAU team, Wisconsin Young Legends. Stone could have his pick of any AAU team to play on, and believe me, they come after him week in and week out.  Him and his dad have chosen to play with the same guys for the last three years because it feels like family. There are better players out there for sure, but they have remained loyal to all of the kids he enjoys playing with. From the outside, they seem like a pretty grounded bunch. Hopefully, Buzz has made an impression and continues to foster the relationship. I still remember seeing him for the first time at a tournament at Waukesha South when he was playing for Tosa East -- he was in 6th or 7th grade and was 6' 6". Would love to see him in an MU uniform.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 24, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
In the 2013 rankings Deonte dropped a little but Duane Wilson jumped a ton. We now have 2 recruits in the top 60.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: lab_warrior on May 24, 2012, 02:51:03 PM
My son's friend is a teammate of Stone on his AAU team, Wisconsin Young Legends. Stone could have his pick of any AAU team to play on, and believe me, they come after him week in and week out.  Him and his dad have chosen to play with the same guys for the last three years because it feels like family. There are better players out there for sure, but they have remained loyal to all of the kids he enjoys playing with. From the outside, they seem like a pretty grounded bunch. Hopefully, Buzz has made an impression and continues to foster the relationship. I still remember seeing him for the first time at a tournament at Waukesha South when he was playing for Tosa East -- he was in 6th or 7th grade and was 6' 6". Would love to see him in an MU uniform.

This is why having Duane Wilson in an MU uni will help us out IMMENSELY.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 24, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
This is why having Duane Wilson in an MU uni will help us out IMMENSELY.
I really hope Wilson is recruiting him hard. I cant even imagine how good MU would be in 2015 if we landed Stone. Long ways off but WOW!
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: brewcity77 on May 24, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
I really want Stone at MU, but remember it's still very early. Tokoto was also a top-5 player (4, I think) on ESPN at the same point of his career. Then he dropped like a proverbial rock.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 24, 2012, 07:18:19 PM
I really want Stone at MU, but remember it's still very early. Tokoto was also a top-5 player (4, I think) on ESPN at the same point of his career. Then he dropped like a proverbial rock.

Jamil Wilson was top 10 at the same point too, wasn't he?
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 24, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
Jamil Wilson was top 10 at the same point too, wasn't he?

At least into his junior year.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: mu-rara on May 25, 2012, 12:34:33 PM
I really want Stone at MU, but remember it's still very early. Tokoto was also a top-5 player (4, I think) on ESPN at the same point of his career. Then he dropped like a proverbial rock.
He wasn't 6-9.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Bocephys on May 25, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
He wasn't 6-9.

He was 6'6" though.  It's not like he stopped growing at 5'10" and that's why he plummeted.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: lab_warrior on May 25, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
I really want Stone at MU, but remember it's still very early. Tokoto was also a top-5 player (4, I think) on ESPN at the same point of his career. Then he dropped like a proverbial rock.

He wasn't 6-9.

Agree that it's early, but also agree that you can't coach height.  Getting a solid big, and someone with a  teammate already in the fold... would be pretty awesome. 

Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: strotty on May 25, 2012, 02:16:23 PM
Wilson and Stone are very good friends.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: brewcity77 on May 25, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
Hmm...so let me get this straight, the general consensus right now is that Jabari Parker is the best player in HS, and maybe the best HS player period since LeBron James, right? Then why is it that ESPN grades him at a 96? If that were some stellar rating, fine, but there are 19 players in the class of 2012 graded higher than Parker. I think that despite them being just over 24 hours old, their rankings need some polishing.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on May 26, 2012, 01:48:37 PM
Man Wilson really jumped up pretty much cut his ranking in half. Almost as high as Deonte now. Pumped to have both of them. Did Looney drop a few spots? Says he's #17 now.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: hilltopper03 on May 26, 2012, 04:05:44 PM
Hmm...so let me get this straight, the general consensus right now is that Jabari Parker is the best player in HS, and maybe the best HS player period since LeBron James, right? Then why is it that ESPN grades him at a 96? If that were some stellar rating, fine, but there are 19 players in the class of 2012 graded higher than Parker. I think that despite them being just over 24 hours old, their rankings need some polishing.

ESPN just updated their rating system. Last year Deonte was a 95.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Earl Tatum on May 27, 2012, 10:40:48 AM
Who cares! It's what they do in a game. But Burton, Wilson, Looney and Stone would
look awfully good wearing MU colors. Let's add Nunn, Paul White and a big.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Dreadman24 on May 27, 2012, 10:46:09 AM
I actually think Diamond Stone is a tad bit overated. However, he still would be an ok get for us.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 27, 2012, 10:52:30 AM
An ok get? Are you out of your mind...He could single handedly bump this team top elite status for years to come. It would open up the flood gates for every top WI recruit after him. Once Marquette reaches elite status all of the top Chicago talent will want to come to MU. You have to think big picture when talking about a top 3 recruit. When you land a guy like this, regardless of rating, its huge for the program.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: tower912 on May 27, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
I actually think Diamond Stone is a tad bit overated. However, he still would be an ok get for us.

First of all, let us accept the foolishness of trying to project what high school freshmen are going to look like when it is time to go to college.    OK.....with that accepted......


Are you nuts?    A local 6'9 freshman who was a defensive terror in the state tourney, is athletic, has reasonable offensive moves and is friends with other MU recruits?     Overrated?!?!    Try manna from heaven. 
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: TedBaxter on May 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
An ok get? Are you out of your mind...He could single handedly bump this team top elite status for years to come. It would open up the flood gates for every top WI recruit after him. Once Marquette reaches elite status all of the top Chicago talent will want to come to MU. You have to think big picture when talking about a top 3 recruit. When you land a guy like this, regardless of rating, its huge for the program.

This is going a little overboard.  Sure, a recruit like Looney and Stone may attract others, but you aren't going to get everybody you want in Chicago and you wouldn't want that anyway.  Chicago recruits are fine as long as they are the right kids for this school and not every kid is the right fit.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: brewcity77 on May 27, 2012, 11:52:42 AM
An ok get? Are you out of your mind...He could single handedly bump this team top elite status for years to come. It would open up the flood gates for every top WI recruit after him. Once Marquette reaches elite status all of the top Chicago talent will want to come to MU. You have to think big picture when talking about a top 3 recruit. When you land a guy like this, regardless of rating, its huge for the program.

Maybe, maybe not. Wade was that level of player and it didn't open those proverbial floodgates. And what someone does once they get here is far more important than their rating coming in. And with 3 years left before he graduates, he could end up a top-10 player or outside the top-50. I think we're all hoping Stone follows Burton, Wilson, and (fingers crossed) McKay and Looney to Marquette, but results on the court bring in recruits more than an individual.

If we make a couple Final Fours and maybe win a title, that'll open the floodgates, but I can't see any one player having that impact with his commitment alone.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Canadian Dimes on May 28, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
Actually wade dis but then Crean pissed of larry butler
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on June 01, 2012, 08:50:12 PM
Looks like Stone, the younger Ellenson, and Brandon Key (who I like) are the only ones who were on the rankings or close to them on ESPN.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: DegenerateDish on June 04, 2012, 01:20:26 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Wade was that level of player and it didn't open those proverbial floodgates. And what someone does once they get here is far more important than their rating coming in. And with 3 years left before he graduates, he could end up a top-10 player or outside the top-50. I think we're all hoping Stone follows Burton, Wilson, and (fingers crossed) McKay and Looney to Marquette, but results on the court bring in recruits more than an individual.

If we make a couple Final Fours and maybe win a title, that'll open the floodgates, but I can't see any one player having that impact with his commitment alone.

I would argue Wade was not from Chicago. There's a huge difference (when it comes to high school basketball) of being from "Chicago" and from Chicago.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: brewcity77 on June 04, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
I would argue Wade was not from Chicago. There's a huge difference (when it comes to high school basketball) of being from "Chicago" and from Chicago.

I'm merely talking about how much of an impact any one guy can have on a program. Not in terms of bringing other talent from his hometown, but that if recruits were ever going to flood to a university because of the success a guy had, Wade was that guy, regardless of his HS ranking.
Title: Re: ESPN Rankings - Diamond Stone #3 in Class of '15
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on June 04, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
I'm merely talking about how much of an impact any one guy can have on a program. Not in terms of bringing other talent from his hometown, but that if recruits were ever going to flood to a university because of the success a guy had, Wade was that guy, regardless of his HS ranking.
I feel like wade brought us to national exposure (changing from conference USA to BEAST). Now that we have the national exposure I believe getting a top 5 recruit would indeed open the floodgates as we have seen Burton has done for D. Wilson and Mckay.