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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: PGsHeroes32 on May 16, 2012, 12:44:13 PM

Title: Big East/SEC
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on May 16, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
 Anyone have any idea what our game could be yet? Looks like Gtown gets UK.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on May 16, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
I'm hearing Missouri is a possibility.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: brewcity77 on May 16, 2012, 01:14:07 PM
I also heard Mizzou, though it sounds like Syracuse might end up with Missouri. If that happens, maybe Marquette at Florida? I know we're getting a road game, and UF was at Syracuse last year, so they're do for one at home.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on May 16, 2012, 04:42:14 PM
I also heard Mizzou, though it sounds like Syracuse might end up with Missouri. If that happens, maybe Marquette at Florida? I know we're getting a road game, and UF was at Syracuse last year, so they're do for one at home.

I was thinking they may try and match UL up with Florida but Id like a Florida or Mizzou game nice marquee match up.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: strotty on May 16, 2012, 04:43:30 PM
It would have been more fun last year, but Marquette-Mizzou would be such an incredible matchup.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Bocephys on May 16, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
It would have been more fun last year, but Marquette-Mizzou would be such an incredible matchup.

I was just thinking that.  Everyone was looking forward to that Sweet 16 match-up.  Did Mizzou lose a decent amount of talent?
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: nyg on May 16, 2012, 04:54:53 PM
SEC Standings

TEAM   CONF   OVERALL
Kentucky   16-0   38-2
Florida   10-6   26-11
Vanderbilt   10-6   25-11
Tennessee   10-6   19-15
Alabama   9-7   21-12
Mississippi State   8-8   21-12
Ole Miss   8-8   20-14
LSU   7-9   18-15
Arkansas   6-10   18-14
Auburn   5-11   15-16
Georgia   5-11   15-17
South Carolina   2-14   10-21

How about a Tenn. matchup? 
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: strotty on May 16, 2012, 04:57:41 PM
I was just thinking that.  Everyone was looking forward to that Sweet 16 match-up.  Did Mizzou lose a decent amount of talent?

Marquette loses top two scorers, Mizzou loses top 3 scorers (English, M. Denmon, Ratliffe).

Both teams should be top 25 at some point in the season, but that Sweet 16 matchup arguably would have been the Tournament's most exciting game, no exaggeration.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: MU82 on May 16, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
Rooting for South Carolina or Georgia because then I could go to the game. But realize I'll probly be S.O.L.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: brewcity77 on May 16, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
How about a Tenn. matchup? 

Bo Ryan wouldn't allow that to happen because Jeronne Maymon played here.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: MU82 on May 16, 2012, 05:16:38 PM
Very teal-y of you, brew.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: bamamarquettefan on May 16, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
Marquette loses top two scorers, Mizzou loses top 3 scorers (English, M. Denmon, Ratliffe).

Both teams should be top 25 at some point in the season, but that Sweet 16 matchup arguably would have been the Tournament's most exciting game, no exaggeration.

In the database I've got Missouri as the 16th best team in the country next year and one of only three teams in the country with two of the top 40 projected Value Add players in Phil Pressey (projected 12th best) and Michael Dixon (projected 38th best).  In fact, even though I have Marquette slightly higher due to so much more depth, based on Value Add five of the 6 most valuable players on the court would play for Missouri in our game.

A great matchup, but that being said Marquette players seem to progress more quickly than the average in most cases, so I would certainly believe Jamil, Mayo and Blue would actually be better than everyone on Missouri except Pressey and Dixon.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: strotty on May 16, 2012, 06:17:01 PM
In the database I've got Missouri as the 16th best team in the country next year and one of only three teams in the country with two of the top 40 projected Value Add players in Phil Pressey (projected 12th best) and Michael Dixon (projected 38th best).  In fact, even though I have Marquette slightly higher due to so much more depth, based on Value Add five of the 6 most valuable players on the court would play for Missouri in our game.

A great matchup, but that being said Marquette players seem to progress more quickly than the average in most cases, so I would certainly believe Jamil, Mayo and Blue would actually be better than everyone on Missouri except Pressey and Dixon.

I should know this, and am a bit embarrassed to ask, but how does value add work for players who haven't played any D-1 ball yet? (H.S. seniors, JUCO newcomers)
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on May 16, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
I originally thought of Tennessee as well but Im pretty sure their home game against Uconn last year was apart of this challenge, so I doubt they would get a second straight home game.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: SaveOD238 on May 16, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
The game against LSU wont count for the challenge, right?

Also, one BEast team is going to get left out since the SEC has 14 with TAMU and Mizzou and the Big East will only have 15 (16 if Temple is joining...im still not sure how this all is working out).  I doubt MU would be that team, since we have a marquee name, but it is a possibility.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 16, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
The game against LSU wont count for the challenge, right?

Also, one BEast team is going to get left out since the SEC has 14 with TAMU and Mizzou and the Big East will only have 15 (16 if Temple is joining...im still not sure how this all is working out).  I doubt MU would be that team, since we have a marquee name, but it is a possibility.

Correct.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on May 17, 2012, 10:31:10 AM
I'm holding out hope for UGA.  Short drive for me and my son needs to see his first MU game!
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: cheebs09 on May 17, 2012, 10:41:52 AM
The game against LSU wont count for the challenge, right?

Also, one BEast team is going to get left out since the SEC has 14 with TAMU and Mizzou and the Big East will only have 15 (16 if Temple is joining...im still not sure how this all is working out).  I doubt MU would be that team, since we have a marquee name, but it is a possibility.

Broeker tweeted about a month ago that we were playing a road game for the Challenge.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: wojosdojo on May 17, 2012, 12:39:02 PM
I was just thinking that.  Everyone was looking forward to that Sweet 16 match-up.  Did Mizzou lose a decent amount of talent?
English, M. Denmon, Ratliffe are gone but will have Pressy and Orahki. I was golfing the other day and the kid cleaning my clubs was done  saw my chicken head cover and ask me about MU. He then told me he was a student manager of Mizzou (take it FWIW) and thinks they obviously wont be ranked as high but has a chance to be better than they were last year just like some think (the real) MU can be better with Lockett. I agree last years sweet 16 matchup would have been a thriller and one to remember. Heck, even revenge for Lazar stepping over the line. Hopefully Syracuse doesn't take more from us in that we could end up with a great non-conference game. 
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: 77ncaachamps on May 17, 2012, 01:50:24 PM
If Mizzou and Marquette do meet up, is it UM vs MU? I think the team's letters would confuse people greatly.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Bocephys on May 17, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
If Mizzou and Marquette do meet up, is it UM vs MU? I think the team's letters would confuse people greatly.

Better start up the MQ letter writing movement again...
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
If Mizzou and Marquette do meet up, is it UM vs MU? I think the team's letters would confuse people greatly.

It'll be the battle for the MU. Winner keeps the "MU" initials, loser has to get rid of the "M". So Missouri would become "Issouri University" and Marquette would become "Arquette University". Of course, the new IU would likely run afoul of Indiana, while we would have to adopt a new mascot:

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080904/300.arquette.david.090408.jpg)
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: LAMUfan on May 17, 2012, 02:17:36 PM
doesn't buzz already have that jacket??
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Bocephys on May 17, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Better start up the MU letter writing movement again...

M"Q" auto corrects to MU?  Well played moderators... 
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: 🏀 on May 17, 2012, 02:23:01 PM
M"Q" auto corrects to MU?  Well played moderators...  

MU

Edited:

Well played.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: MUMac on May 17, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
It'll be the battle for the MU. Winner keeps the "MU" initials, loser has to get rid of the "M". So Missouri would become "Issouri University" and Marquette would become "Arquette University". Of course, the new IU would likely run afoul of Indiana, while we would have to adopt a new mascot:

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080904/300.arquette.david.090408.jpg)

I do NOT want to fight with American University over this!
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
I can't believe this is still being debated...

From the late Johnny Cochran himself, and I quote: "Whoever owns the .edu, owns the moniker of MU."
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: brewcity77 on May 17, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
Sudden realization...

...if we become "Arquette University"...

...We become "AU"

...AU is the chemical sign for...

[size=8]...NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

(http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/blog/C3P-Keg%20copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Bocephys on May 17, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
Sudden realization...

...if we become "Arquette University"...

...We become "AU"

...AU is the chemical sign for...

[size=8]...NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

(http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/blog/C3P-Keg%20copy.jpg)

This guy

(http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a96823_m8.jpg)

endorses that move.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 17, 2012, 03:16:27 PM
Marquette loses top two scorers, Mizzou loses top 3 scorers (English, M. Denmon, Ratliffe).

Both teams should be top 25 at some point in the season, but that Sweet 16 matchup arguably would have been the Tournament's most exciting game, no exaggeration.

More exciting than MU v. Murray State?
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: Bocephys on May 17, 2012, 03:30:11 PM
More exciting than MU v. Murray State?

Yes, in theory, because the game would have been an uptempo one with each team scoring in the 80s.
Title: Re: Big East/SEC
Post by: 🏀 on May 17, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
This guy

(http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a96823_m8.jpg)

endorses that move.