Phil Nolan, 2012, just tweeted that he's going to UConn...didn't see that coming.
I hate to say I told ya so. But I told ya so. If hes good enough to play for Calhoun he's definately good enough to play here.
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on May 03, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
I hate to say I told ya so. But I told ya so. If hes good enough to play for Calhoun he's definately good enough to play here.
Good luck to him.
There's a difference of being good enough to play somewhere and good fit. Not saying Phillip is a bad kid at all, but you have to have the right mindset to play at Marquette and not everyone has that mindset.
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on May 03, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
I hate to say I told ya so. But I told ya so. If hes good enough to play for Calhoun he's definately good enough to play here.
Everything that's wrong with America's youth is in this post.
He'll compete for playing time, nobody except Daniels left on front line. But, won't see NCAA's either next year.
Big miss on our part IMO. Think he has great upside potential and fit our style of play. Find losing him a bit troublesome because of the Milwaukee connection that is in place.
Quite honestly, I'm not even sure Marquette was that involved at this point and I'm not being a homer or saying Buzz can get any kid he wants. I just never felt Marquette was all in for Phillip.
He has potential and it will be all up to him to see how much he plays at UConn. Hope he does well.
Quote from: reinko on May 03, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
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Well put. Why is UConn missing the NCAA tournament again?
Quote from: Goose on May 03, 2012, 01:24:14 PM
Big miss on our part IMO. Think he has great upside potential and fit our style of play. Find losing him a bit troublesome because of the Milwaukee connection that is in place.
Actually, there is no evidence that MU "lost him", or at least that we didn't want to. No evidence either way, really.
It is too bad..Coach Watts wanted him to come here and have Aaron as his mentor for one year. But the opportunity to play right away for a program like UCONN was too much to resist. Best of luck..
Quote from: reinko on May 03, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
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But he said he
"HATED" to say it.
Enter Jaleel McKay?
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on May 03, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
It is too bad..Coach Watts wanted him to come here and have Aaron as his mentor for one year. But the opportunity to play right away for a program like UCONN was too much to resist. Best of luck..
Say what? Would that be Hank Aaron?
Big miss on our part.
LittleMurs
We did offer him didn't we? My thoughts are more in bigger picture and would liked to have another local kid, especially one that is fan of program.
not at all
If you could only have two of the three of Duane Wilson, Deonte Burton, and Philip Nolan... well, think Buzz did quite allright. We're not going to get every single MKE area recruit, and I think our connection is fine.
Lab
I think we are going to have next to impossible chance on Looney and who knows about Stone. Would like to see the Milwaukee connection get tighter before Looney and Stone are college bound.
Quote from: leever on May 03, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
Say what? Would that be Hank Aaron?
Sorry, got Locketts confused..showing my age..meant Trent.
Quote from: Goose on May 03, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
Lab
I think we are going to have next to impossible chance on Looney and who knows about Stone. Would like to see the Milwaukee connection get tighter before Looney and Stone are college bound.
I understand where you're coming from; who wouldn't want to increase MU's chances of getting Looney and Stone anyway possible? But... I have a hard time thinking that Nolan would go to UConn, if the MU option was open and
attractive to him given what he would be expected to do. Particularly, after the Durley decommit. Had he come here and been unhappy, is MU worse off with Looney and Stone? What, if he transfers? Would the new academic standards been a challenge for him, given the number of high schools he's attended?
I don't know squat, but still somehow I am at peace with this. I just feel, if it was a good fit
for both parties, he'd be here.
Little Murs
I have ZERO idea if academics played role in him going to UConn...but I sure hope not.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on May 03, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
Sorry, got Locketts confused..showing my age..meant Trent.
The program will have hit a real low point when MU has to take transfers
to mentor its first year players.
Quote from: Goose on May 03, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
Little Murs
I have ZERO idea if academics played role in him going to UConn...but I sure hope not.
I'm with you on both points.
Nolan was quoted as saying he wanted to go someplace where he could play a lot right away. Looking at our roster, don't think MU was that place.
Quote from: Goose on May 03, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
Lab
I think we are going to have next to impossible chance on Looney and who knows about Stone. Would like to see the Milwaukee connection get tighter before Looney and Stone are college bound.
I think Wilson and Burton being here and having success will help our chances with these guys significantly. I know we've offered Stone, and he was teammates with Wilson--also significantly helpful.
From what I've inferred about Looney, he seems like a long shot, but what the hell, why not keep after him? This is Buzz recruiting, so I imagine he's doing everything possible.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 03, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
Nolan was quoted as saying he wanted to go someplace where he could play a lot right away. Looking at our roster, don't think MU was that place.
Real question is if he'll get thru the Clearinghouse.
Good for him, good for us.
Quote from: lab_warrior on May 03, 2012, 01:39:17 PM
But he said he "HATED" to say it.
Enter Jaleel McKay?
I am fairly certain he is a 2013, but I am not sure at this point the way everyone is talking about him.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 03, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
Phil Nolan, 2012, just tweeted that he's going to UConn...didn't see that coming.
If he signs his NLI at UConn, by rule he will never by able to play at MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 03, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
I am fairly certain he is a 2013, but I am not sure at this point the way everyone is talking about him.
Yeah, I think you're right.
he should not sign a LOI, he should just enroll and sign scholarship paperwork. What if he does not get cleared by the NCAA?
Phew, dodged a bullet here with Nolan.
We have 1 scholarship open for next year and 2 for 2013 now correct? Does Lockett use a scholarship if he comes here? Nolan would've been a great addition but I'm not heartbroken he isn't coming. Maybe we should leave that extra 2012 schoolie and try to get 2 more players for 2013? (McKay, Nunn?)
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on May 03, 2012, 03:45:53 PM
We have 1 scholarship open for next year and 2 for 2013 now correct? Does Lockett use a scholarship if he comes here? Nolan would've been a great addition but I'm not heartbroken he isn't coming. Maybe we should leave that extra 2012 schoolie and try to get 2 more players for 2013? (McKay, Nunn?)
We have two for 2012 and one for 2013 (assuming everyone returns.) If Lockett comes here, he will use one of the 2012 scholarships, still leaving one for 2013.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 03, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
We have two for 2012 and one for 2013 (assuming everyone returns.) If Lockett comes here, he will use one of the 2012 scholarships, still leaving one for 2013.
since Jones and Durley are both gone doesnt that mean theres 2 for 2012 and 2013? Otule's 6th year takes one of the available 2012's so theres one left isnt there? If Lockett takes it then were full for 2012. Or does he not use a schollie since he is graduating? I don't know.
We were full for 2012.
We were one over for 2013 with the Duane Wilson commitment IF YOU ASSUME that Otule is granted a sixth year.
Durley not coming and Jones transferring opened up two spots in both 2012 and 2013 - hence two spots left for 2012 and one for 2013.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 03, 2012, 04:00:06 PM
We were full for 2012.
We were one over for 2013 with the Duane Wilson commitment IF YOU ASSUME that Otule is granted a sixth year.
Durley not coming and Jones transferring opened up two spots in both 2012 and 2013 - hence two spots left for 2012 and one for 2013.
oh yeah got mixed up there for some reason thought Otule had his 6th year next year forgot we were one over for 2013 with Wilson. McKay should be who we take in 2013.
Quote from: reinko on May 03, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
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Yup.
Quote from: PTM on May 03, 2012, 03:23:12 PM
Phew, dodged a bullet here with Nolan.
And yup.
Kid reminds me of Monterale Clark... very long and oozing with potential but red flags. I worry about kids who repeatedly change schools. Either they don't know what they want or are more likely being advised by people who aren't looking out for their best interests. I don't even remember UCONN being mentioned much and he ends up choosing them.
Quote from: shaquilvaine on May 03, 2012, 05:12:58 PM
Kid reminds me of Monterale Clark... very long and oozing with potential but red flags. I worry about kids who repeatedly change schools. Either they don't know what they want or are more likely being advised by people who aren't looking out for their best interests. I don't even remember UCONN being mentioned much and he ends up choosing them.
UConn after being banned from next year's tournament and losing players wasn't in a position to be too choosey, similar to St. John's last year.
Wish the kid well. Really do, but there's a reason the dude was dyin' on the vine till now.
J/S article:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/riversides-nolan-commits-to-uconn-om598q0-150059385.html
no MU mention.
said he was also considering St. Johns.
good luck to the lad.
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 03, 2012, 08:13:13 PM
UConn after being banned from next year's tournament and losing players wasn't in a position to be too choosey, similar to St. John's last year.
Which makes me wonder, why the heck would Nolan choose UCONN? We're doing a WV sidestep around it, but let's just put the cards on the table.... UCONN is going to have mirror games with DePaul next year, and the year after, and probably the year after that. Calhoun's health isn't exactly tip-top, and his days on the court are numbered; if he doesn't recognize that soon, then his days off the court are going to be numbered, too. UCONN isn't even close to rebuilding yet... you can't rebuild until the demolition is complete and a new architect is brought in. Who knows how long Calhoun sticks around, but I'm willing to bet UCONN's class of 2012 will never see the dance; 2013 sees it only if someone goes on the Otule (not Abromaitis) plan.
Nolan had better suitors than UCONN. He had, according to Rivals, offers from AZ, Baylor, ISU, MD, MN, MU, etc. Any one of those gives Nolan the opportunity to dance next year - maybe the next four years - and he chose a school where he'll be lucky to even sniff the NIT -- but not for three years? (I'm using the term "chose" extremely liberally.)
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 03, 2012, 08:59:45 PM
Wish the kid well. Really do, but there's a reason the dude was dyin' on the vine till now.
As much as I would have loved seeing him at MU... something stinks about his decision. Either UCONN wired a few G's to a BMO branch on the northside, or Nolan is a red-hot risk to not qualify. In fact, my guess is that he doesn't even see the court in 2012-13, but UCONN will have a scholarship to give, so they'll spend a year trying to get his act together and hope for his eligibility in 2013.
Either way, I do wish the kid the best and hope he recognizes the magnitude of the opportunity he has before him; there's not a heck of a lot of high D-I talent - relative to the rest of the country - comes out of Milwaukee these days, so I still want to support the local kids... as long as they don't go 90 miles west.
He gets to play for what many perceive to be a blue-blood, and play immediately. No, they won't be in the tourney in 2013, but they will still be a team getting national games from November-February. He is positioned to be a marquee player on one of the biggest "name" teams in the Big East by 2013-14.
Granted, UConn may not be what it was by the time a year or three go by, but I'm sure they sold him the UConn brand, which with a NC only 1 year removed, is still a pretty strong selling point. My guess is Nolan is banking on UConn being back to being UConn within a year. UConn is banking on fringe top-100 players like Nolan being good enough to keep them relevant and help them get back on top once they are upperclassmen. Will it work? Who knows? But it makes perfect sense in my eyes.
Quote from: Benny B on May 04, 2012, 09:17:14 AM
Nolan had better suitors than UCONN. He had, according to Rivals, offers from AZ, Baylor, ISU, MD, MN, MU, etc. Any one of those gives Nolan the opportunity to dance next year - maybe the next four years - and he chose a school where he'll be lucky to even sniff the NIT -- but not for three years? (I'm using the term "chose" extremely liberally.)
Again, I really don't know, but based on the JS article not mentioning anyone beyond UConn and St. John's, it seems entirely possible that several of Nolan's offers were based on him reclassifying to 2013.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 03, 2012, 08:59:45 PM
Wish the kid well. Really do, but there's a reason the dude was dyin' on the vine till now.
smoke...fire...
we are better off