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Title: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: PaintTouchesSays on April 20, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
Aaron Durley granted release
      


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The Marquette Athletic Department sent an email Friday that Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-10 incoming recruit, would not be joining the program next season. “It has been a privilege and pleasure building a relationship with Aaron and his family,” head coach ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2012/04/20/aaron-durley-granted-release/)
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Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: ATWizJr on April 20, 2012, 05:49:55 PM
Aha!
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: The Process on April 20, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
Best of luck to Aaron.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Warrior Code on April 20, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 20, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
Best of luck to Aaron.

This.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: bilsu on April 20, 2012, 08:10:39 PM
This says it all"It has been a privaledge and a pleasure building a relationship with aaron and his family". Buzz is an a----e.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 20, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: bilsu on April 20, 2012, 08:10:39 PM
This says it all"It has been a privaledge and a pleasure building a relationship with aaron and his family". Buzz is an a----e.

I guess Buzz could have brought him in, sat him at the end of the bench where he could have burned a year of eligibility and then sent him packing to another school in June 2013 where he could have sat another year.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 20, 2012, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 20, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
I guess Buzz could have brought him in, sat him at the end of the bench where he could have burned a year of eligibility and then sent him packing to another school in June 2013 where he could have sat another year.

+1  This gives him time to decide what to do in September instead of wasting two years of his life.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: brewcity77 on April 20, 2012, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 20, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
I guess Buzz could have brought him in, sat him at the end of the bench where he could have burned a year of eligibility and then sent him packing to another school in June 2013 where he could have sat another year.

-1

If that's what the kid wanted, he earned that right. Don't offer the LOI only to rescind it. At least with Newbill there was a loophole, this one just feels like we yanked the rug out from under him. Not a fan of this move at all.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 20, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
Durley just shouldn't have been signed. We should have held the spot open to evaluate him over his senior year. If we lose him to USF, okay. But with our current level of recruiting, that is better than having to be put in this type of position. I know that we are in need of bigs and there aren't many out there, but these Roseboro, Durley, Mbao signings aren't panning out.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: brewcity77 on April 21, 2012, 05:52:09 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 20, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
Durley just shouldn't have been signed. We should have held the spot open to evaluate him over his senior year. If we lose him to USF, okay. But with our current level of recruiting, that is better than having to be put in this type of position. I know that we are in need of bigs and there aren't many out there, but these Roseboro, Durley, Mbao signings aren't panning out.

Yet the Otule, Gardner signings are. That's what a project is...you don't know if it will work out from the start but you give the kid a shot. That's my main issue here, I feel he deserved a shot. The staff saw something in him that made them think he was Big East material, I wish he had been given the opportunity to show it.

I think if we're going to take a project, it should be in the late signing period, not the early. Maybe it leads to a Newbill situation, and maybe that's what Buzz was trying to avoid, but is this any better?
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Hoopaloop on April 21, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
I wish Durley well.  I don't like the rule, think it leaves kids with very few immediate options and makes Marquette and Buzz look like they don't honor commitments.  The other side of the coin is that the release gives the kid longer term options to go elsewhere and not sit on the bench.   Therefore, my conclusion is that we need to do a better job recruiting marginal players to avoid this situation.

What I see very few people talking about is the incredible miss on the recruiting side.  Why is it that so many here knew this was a poor choice of recruits 6 months ago but the coaching staff didn't?  Same for Roseboro?  When you look at who else offers kids it should give a major clue as to what the consensus  is on the kid's talent.  He had very few offers, and those he did were not high quality.  Same with Roseboro.

Recruiting bigs is not easy, but not getting it right puts Marquette and Buzz in a bad light.  The term Buzzcutting is out there because of those actions.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: warthog-driver on April 22, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 21, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
The term Buzzcutting is out there because of those actions.

But the term "Creaning" is far more well known and in fact captured in internet lore

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Creaning

1.   Kicking a player off of a team because you think you have a better one to take his place.

With zero scholarships available, but a 0 star prospect verballing, it was time for the IU basketball program to do some house Creaning by kicking off a kid who was told he would be the next D-Wade only a year earlier.

2.   The practice of pulling a scholarship from a college athlete(s) in order to open up a scholarship for a more highly valued recruit.

With all the Creaning going on at IU, it might turn players off from going there.

3.   Spending so much time at the tanning salon that your skin appears orange.

After another session of creaning, he looked like a cross between Tom Arnold and an Oompa Loompa.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 22, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: warthog-driver on April 22, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
But the term "Creaning" is far more well known and in fact captured in internet lore

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Creaning

1.   Kicking a player off of a team because you think you have a better one to take his place.

With zero scholarships available, but a 0 star prospect verballing, it was time for the IU basketball program to do some house Creaning by kicking off a kid who was told he would be the next D-Wade only a year earlier.

2.   The practice of pulling a scholarship from a college athlete(s) in order to open up a scholarship for a more highly valued recruit.

With all the Creaning going on at IU, it might turn players off from going there.

3.   Spending so much time at the tanning salon that your skin appears orange.

After another session of creaning, he looked like a cross between Tom Arnold and an Oompa Loompa.

The question, of course, is who wrote this definition for the Urban Dictionary?  To be blunt, if a neutral parties looked at this post of yours and Hoopaloop's post, I believe that a great majority would favor Hoopaloop's post as the more reasonable and credible.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: strotty on April 22, 2012, 05:48:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 21, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
I wish Durley well.  I don't like the rule, think it leaves kids with very few immediate options and makes Marquette and Buzz look like they don't honor commitments.  The other side of the coin is that the release gives the kid longer term options to go elsewhere and not sit on the bench.   Therefore, my conclusion is that we need to do a better job recruiting marginal players to avoid this situation.

What I see very few people talking about is the incredible miss on the recruiting side.  Why is it that so many here knew this was a poor choice of recruits 6 months ago but the coaching staff didn't?  Same for Roseboro?  When you look at who else offers kids it should give a major clue as to what the consensus  is on the kid's talent.  He had very few offers, and those he did were not high quality.  Same with Roseboro.

Recruiting bigs is not easy, but not getting it right puts Marquette and Buzz in a bad light.  The term Buzzcutting is out there because of those actions.

Probably because Buzz and the coaching staff had seen him play numerous times, spoke with the kid and his family and knew what he would bring to Marquette. Meanwhile, posters didn't see his name on the fancy recruiting rankings and there were no YouTube videos for them to "break down", so he was automatically a bad decision. I remember a lot of people questioning the Gardner signing, too. Goes both ways.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 22, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2012, 10:49:17 PM
-1

If that's what the kid wanted, he earned that right. Don't offer the LOI only to rescind it. At least with Newbill there was a loophole, this one just feels like we yanked the rug out from under him. Not a fan of this move at all.

He earned it how? By showing the guy who recommended him to Buzz so little that he became his high school's team equivalent on a walk on? His size and potential (both God given, not earned) got him the offer. His effort and his play cost him it.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: BCHoopster on April 22, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
This whole situation stems from Otule getting hurt and playing a 6th year.  In 2 years, they will find a starter, unfortunate for Durley.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: 🏀 on April 22, 2012, 06:46:43 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 22, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
He earned it how? By showing the guy who recommended him to Buzz so little that he became his high school's team equivalent on a walk on? His size and potential (both God given, not earned) got him the offer. His effort and his play cost him it.

If he didn't 'earn it' then Buzz has a serious problem when he is giving out scholarship offers.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
Quote from: bilsu on April 20, 2012, 08:10:39 PM
This says it all"It has been a privaledge and a pleasure building a relationship with aaron and his family". Buzz is an a----e.

Takes one to know one. Douche Bag.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 05, 2012, 11:02:19 AM
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
Takes one to know one. Douche Bag.

It actually doesn't "take one to know one".

Most people learned that in 4th grade.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on May 05, 2012, 11:02:19 AM
It actually doesn't "take one to know one".

Most people learned that in 4th grade.

In most cases, familiarity facilitates recognition.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
Takes one to know one. Douche Bag.

You just bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago to insult someone.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
You just bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago to insult someone.

Just underlining the guy's MO - in this case he called Buzz an A Hole for the Durley matter.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on May 05, 2012, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
You just bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago to insult someone.

When you've got a line as good as jerk store... (you know the rest).
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: Hoopaloop on May 05, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
You just bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago to insult someone.

Aim High.  Air Force
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Aaron Durley granted release
Post by: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 05, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
Aim High.  Air Force

Aim for Mediocrity. DirecTv
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