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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MU Buff on April 03, 2012, 03:39:10 PM

Title: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: MU Buff on April 03, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
These rankings are based on the last 10 years.  I wanted it to be more indicative of where a program is at now so instead of just averaging the last 10 years I made the years increasingly important.  If you add numbers 1-10 you get 55 so 2003 (year 1) is worth 1/55, 2004 is worth 2/55, etc.  2012 is worth 10/55 which is a little over 18%.  I think we all know Pomeroy's ratings aren't perfect and the first thing people will notice is Wisconsin at 3, but I think this gives a pretty good idea of where Marquette stands.  If somebody wants to know the top 25 if the last 10 years are averaged out evenly I could post that too.

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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
Kansas
Duke
Wisconsin
North Carolina
Kentucky
Ohio St.
Louisville
Syracuse
Texas
Michigan St.
Florida
Pittsburgh
Connecticut
Georgetown
West Virginia
Memphis
Marquette
Gonzaga
Notre Dame
Kansas St.
Illinois
Washington
Villanova
Purdue
Xavier
0.9563
0.9414
0.9261
0.9260
0.9201
0.9168
0.9156
0.9156
0.9114
0.9111
0.9035
0.8984
0.8968
0.8953
0.8813
0.8805
0.8799
0.8741
0.8717
0.8663
0.8660
0.8657
0.8653
0.8642
0.8619
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 03, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
We're only 7th in the Big East?  I woulda thought we'd be higher than that...
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: kira67 on April 03, 2012, 04:33:19 PM
6th actually now that the season is over ;D
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 03, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
What I'd like to see is a straight average (no smoothing) of the last for years under Crean with the first four years under Buzz.  Since Crean's years would include the first four years of the three amigos, he should have an advantage, but I bet that Buzz's average comes out ahead.
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: MU Buff on April 03, 2012, 04:54:52 PM
That just shows how many good teams the Big East has.  7th out of 16 doesn't seem that great but 17th out of 345 does.  Let's compare the accomplishments of the Big East teams for the last 10 years:

Team
Team

Louisville
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Connecticut
Georgetown
WVU
Marquette
Notre Dame
Villanova
Regular season champions
2
3
3
3
2
0
1
0
1
Tournament champions
4
2
2
2
1
1
0
0
0
NCAA appearances
9
8
9
8
6
7
8
6
7
Sweet 16
4
5
4
5
2
4
3
1
4
Final 4
2
1
0
3
1
1
1
0
1
NCAA Champions
0
1
0
2
0
0
0
0
0

I don't really see a case for Marquette being better than the schools ahead of them and if Villanova wasn't terrible for the last year and a half they would be ahead of us too.  However, I think we are knocking on the door and have a real opportunity to jump up near the top in the next few years.
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: MU Buff on April 03, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 03, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
What I'd like to see is a straight average (no smoothing) of the last for years under Crean with the first four years under Buzz.  Since Crean's years would include the first four years of the three amigos, he should have an advantage, but I bet that Buzz's average comes out ahead.

I assume you meant first three years of the three amigos.

Crean (2005-2008) .8548 We only had a Pomeroy rating of .7087 our last year in Conference USA
Crean (2006-2008) .9035 Crean's three Big East years
Buzz (2009-2012) .8898
Title: Re: Top 25 per Pomeroy
Post by: MU Buff on April 03, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
Curiosity got the best of me so here's the top 25 of the last decade per Pomeroy if you simply average the last 10 years.

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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
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15
16
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20
21
22
23
24
25
Kansas
Duke
Wisconsin
Kentucky
North Carolina
Louisville
Texas
Pittsburgh
Florida
Michigan St.
Connecticut
Syracuse
Illinois
Memphis
Georgetown
Gonzaga
Villanova
Ohio St.
Arizona
Notre Dame
Xavier
Marquette
West Virginia
Maryland
Kansas St.
0.9559
0.9466
0.9249
0.9223
0.9221
0.9186
0.9182
0.9163
0.9122
0.9103
0.9101
0.9097
0.8929
0.8893
0.8765
0.8749
0.8744
0.8732
0.8724
0.8711
0.8656
0.8633
0.8527
0.8500
0.8474

If you compare the two top 25's you can see how bad Ohio State was when Thad Matta took over and how Illinois has been on a downswing since they made the championship game in 2005
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