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Dan O'Brien @IllinoisLoyalty
Brad Stevens to Illinois? "Just heard he was offered 8 years. $21 million. from a very reliable source." #Illini http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?p=546839#post546839
bad for Butler lol
don't know that i trust twitter. heard a couple days ago that twitter was saying phil jackson to illinois.
Hmmmmm ... is that the coach the Bullseye Bros. were talking about?
Is Brad Stevens African American?
Does this put to rest the rumors here that he is taking over another Big Ten job any day now? ;D
anybody see this comment in that thread?
I just would like to know what would happen if the same Shaka package was put in front of Buzz.
We have a flight from Indianapolis to University of Illinois so it has to be him. :D
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N87TH/history/20120323/1930Z/KIND/KCMI
Not all fans would be happy apparently, ha.
Eric @cystsfts
Seriously, Brad Stevens? From Butler? I'm not impressed. Also, Illinois' AD, Mike Thomas, is inept. #illini #notshaka
Jason Hammer @jasonalanhammer
AS FIRST REPORTED BY @hammerandnigel, Brad Stevens is leaving Butler for Illinois.
BRAD STEVENS RUMOR: Standing by our source who has always been rock solid in the past. We hope Stevens stays, but we trust the source.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7729557/butler-bulldogs-coach-brad-stevens-says-had-no-contact-illinois-fighting-illini
What is the big deal about Illinois anyway. Historically, their program matches up about even with Marquette championship-, elite 8-, sweet 16-wise, except our championship is more recent. Ridiculous that I've heard Chicagoans claim they are a top 15 program. Just dumb!
Although, it would seem Stevens needs to make a move sooner rather than later, I'd say he is better off waiting for Calipari to go to the NBA after this year's championship, or UConn or something.
Quote from: StallisEagle4 on March 23, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
What is the big deal about Illinois anyway. Historically, their program matches up about even with Marquette championship-, elite 8-, sweet 16-wise, except our championship is more recent. Ridiculous that I've heard Chicagoans claim they are a top 15 program. Just dumb!
Although, it would seem Stevens needs to make a move sooner rather than later, I'd say he is better off waiting for Calipari to go to the NBA after this year's championship, or UConn or something.
Not sure they are wrong about that. Take a look at the "Blue Blood" thread on here. They are right around 15 in tourney appearances.
He will be a popular choice within the Chicago Public League
Quote from: StallisEagle4 on March 23, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
Although, it would seem Stevens needs to make a move sooner rather than later, I'd say he is better off waiting for Calipari to go to the NBA after this year's championship, or UConn or something.
OK, let's be serious here. UConn is hiring Kevin Ollie when Calhoun leaves. Kentucky isn't hiring Brad Stevens.
Stevens is a midwestern guy. The best midwestern programs aren't opening up anytime soon...Ohio State, Indiana, Purdue, etc. This would be a very good move. Illinois can be a very good program.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2012, 07:55:12 PM
OK, let's be serious here. UConn is hiring Kevin Ollie when Calhoun leaves. Kentucky isn't hiring Brad Stevens.
Stevens is a midwestern guy. The best midwestern programs aren't opening up anytime soon...Ohio State, Indiana, Purdue, Marquette, etc. This would be a very good move. Illinois can be a very good program.
Fixed.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2012, 07:55:12 PM
OK, let's be serious here. UConn is hiring Kevin Ollie when Calhoun leaves. Kentucky isn't hiring Brad Stevens.
Stevens is a midwestern guy. The best midwestern programs aren't opening up anytime soon...Ohio State, Indiana, Purdue, etc. This would be a very good move. Illinois can be a very good program.
I hear ya and I don't think it would be a bad move. But that way I hear Illini fans talking you'd think there are no better places in the country. When they say top 15 their feeling like "how could you ever turn down Illinois?" I just see better programs. And there are a few programs I don't see on the Blue Bloods thread that I would think higher of than Illinois...such as Arizona, Michigan State, Georgetown...I even like Purdue. Just to name a few. Arizona is an example of a program that was made better more recently. I might even prefer Oklahoma or Arkansas first. Just sayin'
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2012, 07:55:12 PM
OK, let's be serious here. UConn is hiring Kevin Ollie when Calhoun leaves. Kentucky isn't hiring Brad Stevens.
Stevens is a midwestern guy. The best midwestern programs aren't opening up anytime soon...Ohio State, Indiana, Purdue, etc. This would be a very good move. Illinois can be a very good program.
The Illinois job is good, but it's nothing like the jobs you mentioned. Not saying they cheat, but there's a lot of scumminess around Illinois HS basketball. Youve got to want to crawl arounf through the mud to get players. I just don't think Stevens is a fit there. If they hired him, I think it's more about making a splash by a new AD then hiring the right guy for the job. Stevens is not the right guy.
Illinois is a good job, but not a great job. A great job is Kansas and that is why their coach jumped ship even though he was leaving a national contender at Illinois.
Quote from: bilsu on March 23, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Illinois is a good job, but not a great job. A great job is Kansas and that is why their coach jumped ship even though he was leaving a national contender at Illinois.
Exactly. Maybe just me reacting to the way I've heard talk about them getting Buzz. It's like, why would you leave MU for Illinois. I think MU is just as good of a job, if not better.
Illinois is the 5th best program in the B1G....MSU, IU, OSU and scUM are better. Then comes UofI.....it's a good job...on par with MU....
According to Stevens, he hasn't even been contacted by Illinois.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/03/butler-brad-stevens-illinois-contact/1
To the guys who matter Illinois isn't a better job than VCU, Alabama or Florida State.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 23, 2012, 09:40:15 PM
According to Stevens, he hasn't even been contacted by Illinois.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/03/butler-brad-stevens-illinois-contact/1
HE likely hasn't been. That does not mean there has not been contact and things in the works. He was much more vague on the "intermediaries" question.
If Illinois misses out on both Smart and Stevens, they will look worse than they did when they missed out on Kevin Sumlin as their football coach. With how publicly things have played out it seems like the Illinois job is looking less and less attractive by the moment as more people pass on it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 24, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
If Illinois misses out on both Smart and Stevens, they will look worse than they did when they missed out on Kevin Sumlin as their football coach. With how publicly things have played out it seems like the Illinois job is looking less and less attractive by the moment as more people pass on it.
+1
If Stevens turns them down, this will start looking like the depaul debacle a few years ago.
I'm not saying the last two posts are wrong, they just are examples of what is wrong with how this all gets perceived. So they went for two guys who had indicated previously they would likely stay put and they chose to stay put - what's the big deal? This is such an overreaction (by many people, especially the media, and not just the last two posters).
Buried in the Chicago Sun-Times article about Stevens not taking the Illini job:
Other oft-mentioned candidates such as Marquette's Buzz Williams and Alabama's Anthony Grant also are dropping off the radar — if they ever were on it.
"Not going to happen,'' a source said of speculation about Williams, who has little reason to leave Marquette and has had some serious disciplinary problems among his players.
Quote from: TJ on March 24, 2012, 09:25:35 AM
I'm not saying the last two posts are wrong, they just are examples of what is wrong with how this all gets perceived. So they went for two guys who had indicated previously they would likely stay put and they chose to stay put - what's the big deal? This is such an overreaction (by many people, especially the media, and not just the last two posters).
Agreed.
IF they get a guy in there who can win some games, none of this "oh, they look bad for not getting _______" will immediately go away.
Illinois doesn't need a name, they need a guy who is good. Media perception doesn't matter one bit if the guy is good at his job.
Agreed see NC State
Quote from: 2002MUalum on March 24, 2012, 10:06:02 AM
Agreed.
IF they get a guy in there who can win some games, none of this "oh, they look bad for not getting _______" will immediately go away.
Illinois doesn't need a name, they need a guy who is good. Media perception doesn't matter one bit if the guy is good at his job.
Agree. The guy who will be impacted though is the AD. He already has publically looked like a fool in his first two most important hires. He settled in his football choice to the point where mid-major assistants didn't want to move to Chambana. This affects recruiting and fundraising big time, and makes him a target.
Btw, an Illini hoop program in disarray helps MU more than a DePaul one.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Agree. The guy who will be impacted though is the AD. He already has publically looked like a fool in his first two most important hires. He settled in his football choice to the point where mid-major assistants didn't want to move to Chambana. This affects recruiting and fundraising big time, and makes him a target.
Btw, an Illini hoop program in disarray helps MU more than a DePaul one.
If the program(s) struggle, then you are right.
If they win, this will all go away.
It's like Ted Thompson vs Favre. A lot of people thought ted and McCarthy were idiots.
Not so much anymore.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Agree. The guy who will be impacted though is the AD. He already has publically looked like a fool in his first two most important hires. He settled in his football choice to the point where mid-major assistants didn't want to move to Chambana. This affects recruiting and fundraising big time, and makes him a target.
Btw, an Illini hoop program in disarray helps MU more than a DePaul one.
I wonder if this gives Buzz a shot at Jabari? He had been interested at some level regarding Illinois.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 23, 2012, 05:30:32 PM
Is Brad Stevens African American?
Does this put to rest the rumors here that he is taking over another Big Ten job any day now? ;D
The effort they put into going for Shaka satisfied the boards request for a minority hire.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on March 24, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
If the program(s) struggle, then you are right.
If they win, this will all go away.
It's like Ted Thompson vs Favre. A lot of people thought ted and McCarthy were idiots.
Not so much anymore.
The difference here though is he publically has been rejected by not just his top choice for each sport but even by those down the list. His choices may be right 2 or 3 years down the road. However, he needs donor money bad right now and a lot is going to buy out coaches not facilities. And what statement does that make to potential recruiters and their people?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
The difference here though is he publically has been rejected by not just his top choice for each sport but even by those down the list. His choices may be right 2 or 3 years down the road. However, he needs donor money bad right now and a lot is going to buy out coaches not facilities. And what statement does that make to potential recruiters and their people?
You are correct, there. For the immediate needs/wants of the school, this isn't good.
Brad Stevens has declined the Illini job.
Moving onto their third choice... this is getting ugly for the Illini as every candiate has been public and then publicly declined.
Quote from: PTM on March 25, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
Brad Stevens has declined the Illini job.
Moving onto their third choice... this is getting ugly for the Illini as every candiate has been public and then publicly declined.
They will end up with someone good and no one will give a chit that the first few guys said no. No one.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 25, 2012, 09:50:59 PM
They will end up with someone good and no one will give a chit that the first few guys said no. No one.
John Groce isn't good.
Quote from: PTM on March 25, 2012, 09:55:58 PM
John Groce isn't good.
Why do you say that? He did pretty well recruiting at Xavier and Ohio State. He's done well as a head coach at Ohio U.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 25, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
Why do you say that? He did pretty well recruiting at Xavier and Ohio State. He's done well as a head coach at Ohio U.
In my opinion, hes a good coach. However, not what Illini fans thought they were in store for.
If Ohio loses to Akron, he isn't even a candidate.
groce, shaka, brad
everyone of them said no
none saw the allure