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my vote is for Mayo or Wilson

Davante.

Todd Mayo just seems the most confident to score.  I'd say Jamil next.  Would have thought I would be saying Vander Blue at this point, but I just don't see the confidence he had from high school.  Maybe he is being the team defensive role player and waiting for DJO to step aside to be the main slasher, but unfortunately I see Mayo (the 3-star) being more "that guy".  The man jumps out of the gym, is a good defender, can shoot the 3...he has the most potential on this team.  Maybe one of the Taylors can provide another spark.  That is the only way we get above an 8-seed next year.  That, and Otule playing a full year healthy.

Unfortunately I don't see vander ever leading us in scoring.  It's amazing that he has that much athletic ability but can't control his body when driving toward the basket causing crazy errant shots, blocked shots, or a charge. 

yeah he just looks too relaxed.  Like he is doing layup drills in the game or something.

Quote from: QuetteHoops on March 23, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
Davante.

+1

Big East Leaders - Offensive Rating
1   124.75   Kevin Jones   Sr   6-8   260   33   West Virginia
2   122.9           Jae Crowder        6-6   235           34   Marquette
3   122.8           Jack CooleyJr   6-9   248   33   Notre Dame
4   122.04   James Southerland   Jr   6-8   210   35   Syracuse
5   119.13   Davante Gardner   So   6-8   290   26   Marquette
6   118.23   Otto Porter   Fr   6-8   205   32   Georgetown
7   116.88   Dion Waiters   So   6-4   215   35   Syracuse
8   116.36   Kyle Kuric   Sr   6-4   195   35   Louisville
9   116.13   Bilal Dixon   Jr   6-9   245   31   Providence
10   115.46   Jeremy Lamb   So   6-5   180   34   Connecticut
28   110.15   Darius Johnson-Odom   Sr   6-2   215   33   Marquette
57    104.19   Jamil Wilson   So   6-7   220   33   Marquette
74    99.32   Todd Mayo   Fr   6-3   190   34   Marquette
90    96.09   Vander Blue   So   6-4   200   34   Marquette
94    93.7           Junior CadouganJr   6-1   205   33   Marquette


Big East Leaders - Effective Field Goal Pct
1   62.45   Jack Cooley   Jr   6-9   248   33   Notre Dame
2   57.48   Jae Crowder   Sr   6-6   235   34   Marquette
3   57.33   Davante Gardner   So   6-8   290   26   Marquette
4   56.64   Fabricio Melo   So   7-0   244   30   Syracuse
5   55.61   Jeremy Lamb   So   6-5   180   34   Connecticut
6   55.59   Nasir Robinson   Sr   6-5   225   34   Pittsburgh
7   55.57   Jason Clark   Sr   6-2   180   32   Georgetown
8   55.24   Otto Porter   Fr   6-8   205   32   Georgetown
9   54.7   Hollis Thompson   Jr   6-8   212   32   Georgetown
10   54.43   Fuquan Edwin   So   6-6   205   34   Seton Hall
17   53.29   Darius Johnson-Odom   Sr   6-2   215   33   Marquette
NR    48.5   Todd Mayo   Fr   6-3   190   34   Marquette
NR    47.0   Jamil Wilson   So   6-7   220   33   Marquette
NR    44.0   Vander Blue   So   6-4   200   34   Marquette
NR    41.8   Junior Cadougan   Jr   6-1   205   33   Marquette


Big East Leaders - True Shooting Pct
1   64.31   Jack Cooley   Jr   6-9   248   33   Notre Dame
2   62.73   Davante Gardner   So   6-8   290   26   Marquette
3   60.43   Jae Crowder   Sr   6-6   235   34   Marquette
4   59.1   Jason Clark   Sr   6-2   180   32   Georgetown
5   58.94   Jeremy Lamb   So   6-5   180   34   Connecticut
6   58.59   Anthony Collins   Fr   6-1   180   30   South Florida
7   58.06   Fabricio Melo   So   7-0   244   30   Syracuse
8   58.01   Otto Porter   Fr   6-8   205   32   Georgetown
9   57.27   Bryce Cotton   So   6-1   165   32   Providence
10   57.25   Kevin Jones   Sr   6-8   260   33   West Virginia
11   57.24   Darius Johnson-Odom   Sr   6-2   215   33   Marquette
NR    53.6    Todd Mayo   Fr   6-3   190   34   Marquette
NR    50.0   Jamil Wilson   So   6-7   220   33   Marquette
NR    49.8    Vander Blue   So   6-4   200   34   Marquette
NR    47.5    Junior Cadougan   Jr   6-1   205   33   Marquette

Big East Leaders - Free Throw Rate
1   68.0   Davante Gardner   So   6-8   290   26   Marquette
2   62.18   JayVaughn Pinkston   Fr   6-7   260   32   Villanova
3   58.65   Henry Sims   Sr   6-10   245   32   Georgetown
4   57.31   Jack Cooley   Jr   6-9   248   33   Notre Dame
5   57.28   God`sgift Achiuwa   Jr   6-8   236   32   St. John's
6   55.18   Mouphtaou Yarou   Jr   6-10   250   32   Villanova
7   51.82   Gilvydas Biruta   So   6-8   245   32   Rutgers
8   50.68   Darryl Bryant   Sr   6-2   195   33   West Virginia
9   50.0   Gerard Coleman   So   6-4   180   30   Providence
10   49.41   Chane Behanan   Fr   6-6   250   37   Louisville

Big East Leaders - Points Per 40 Minutes
1   22.5   Darius Johnson-Odom   Sr   6-2   215   33   Marquette
2   21.7   Cleveland Melvin   So   6-8   205   31   DePaul
3   21.4   Jae Crowder   Sr   6-6   235   34   Marquette
4   21.2   Russ Smith   So   6-0   160   36   Louisville
5   21.1   Dion Waiters   So   6-4   215   35   Syracuse
6   20.9   Maalik Wayns   Jr   6-2   185   29   Villanova
7   20.8   Kevin Jones   Sr   6-8   260   33   West Virginia
8   19.9   Davante Gardner   So   6-8   290   26   Marquette
9   19.3   Herb Pope   Sr   6-8   236   33   Seton Hall
9   19.3   D`Angelo Harrison   Fr   6-3   202   32   St. John's


I'll go out on a limb and say Davante.  He should probably be in the poll.  ::)

Yup. Davante.

As long as he can draw the calls and hit the FTs, he should be the leading scorer.

But I would love for Jamil and Todd to really come into their own.
And if TJ can really light it up as it has been said, then that's just gravy.

It will either be Mayo or Davante. I think Mayo will have bigger games, but Davante will be more consistant. I be surprise if the Taylor from JC averages more than 6 a game.

I would imagine that we about three guys averaging around 12-13/ppg, probably Mayo,Wilson,Gardner and a bunch off the bench.

Mayo or Jamil. I recognize how good DG is, but he'll be splitting time next year. Those other two will be 28-32 mpg guys. Those two, Davante, and Van should all be in double digits, though. I see our scoring being spread similarly to Syracuse's this year.

Gardner will need to be able to play more than 15 min a game in order to lead the team in scoring. I see him, mayo and jamil all coming in around 11-13 per game, with caddy and blue each coming in around 8-10. We don't have anyone who will be 18-20 like DjO and jae, but maybe that's a good thing to spread it around more than this year...

They just have to start playing that style a bit on offense.  Be tenacious, but spread the floor and pass more to get the defense on their heels.  don't just pass twice and drive regardless.  No one will have as much control as DJO did driving the ball.  Just ridiculous control of his body and the ball.

Next year ... any chance we see Outle at the 5 and Gardner at the 4 at the same time?

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 23, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
Next year ... any chance we see Outle at the 5 and Gardner at the 4 at the same time?

Not unless one of them develops a consistent 15 to 18 foot jumper. Without at least a little range, there'd be too many bodies in the paint with both of them out there.

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 23, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
Yup. Davante.

As long as he can draw the calls and hit the FTs, he should be the leading scorer.

But I would love for Jamil and Todd to really come into their own.
And if TJ can really light it up as it has been said, then that's just gravy.

But Davante will not have enough minutes to be the leading scorer

Quote from: bilsu on March 23, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
It will either be Mayo or Davante. I think Mayo will have bigger games, but Davante will be more consistant. I be surprise if the Taylor from JC averages more than 6 a game.

Agree with this.

Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on March 24, 2012, 10:05:19 PM
But Davante will not have enough minutes to be the leading scorer

If he wants them, he will get them.  He's got a couple weeks to rest up the knee, then he's got to put the work in to get in shape and get better at everything.  How serious he gets over the next 7 months will determine the difference between averaging 9 and 5 in 18 minutes and 16 and 8 in 28 minutes.

Thinking about it now, Davante needs to stay out of foul trouble to be a leading scorer.

It's been an Achilles heel for him this past season.

Quote from: chapman on March 24, 2012, 10:53:08 PMIf he wants them, he will get them.  He's got a couple weeks to rest up the knee, then he's got to put the work in to get in shape and get better at everything.  How serious he gets over the next 7 months will determine the difference between averaging 9 and 5 in 18 minutes and 16 and 8 in 28 minutes.

Unless he and Otule can play at the same time, there is no way that Gardner will average 28 minutes if Otule's healthy. I would expect them to roughly split minutes 50/50, if either has an edge, it would be more in the 22-18 range than the 28-12 range.

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 25, 2012, 06:27:19 AM
Unless he and Otule can play at the same time, there is no way that Gardner will average 28 minutes if Otule's healthy. I would expect them to roughly split minutes 50/50, if either has an edge, it would be more in the 22-18 range than the 28-12 range.

And Durley gets zero?  Or do we red-shirt him?

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 25, 2012, 08:30:00 AMAnd Durley gets zero?  Or do we red-shirt him?

I'd guess in the 2-4 range, with most of that coming in November and December, unless we redshirt him, which I don't think us a bad idea. If someone gets hurt he can always take the proverbial redshirt off like Junior did.

I voted for Gardner 1, with Wilson 2 and Mayo 3.

Gardner, Mayo, and J Wilson. In that order.