What are the chances we get back to the tourney next year, im thinking pretty low unfortunately. Dang i wish we could have ended it this year with a game.
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
What are the chances we get back to the tourney next year, im thinking pretty low unfortunately. Dang i wish we could have ended it this year with a game.
Turn the TV off. Go to bed. Get on with your life. Come back around Thanksgiving. Thanks.
Sweet, this dude's back...
Colossal ass hole.
dumb ass fans have said the same thing about mu so many times. yet.
either NIT or short crappin in the sweet 16...
is this not a legitimate question to ponder at the end of this season, where can we go from here. With the loss of those two, who will carry us to the ncaa tourney next year .... please tell me
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:39:09 PM
is this not a legitimate question to ponder at the end of this season, where can we go from here. With the loss of those two, who will carry us to the ncaa tourney next year .... please tell me
No, it's not. [/thread]
when Crowder was out the offense was scary.,...we'll see. Hopefully TJ Taylor is the real deal. Wish we had a JUCO big lined up.
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:39:09 PM
is this not a legitimate question to ponder at the end of this season, where can we go from here. With the loss of those two, who will carry us to the ncaa tourney next year .... please tell me
I went back and looked at all your posts since January. I've come to two conclusions:
1) you aren't a fan
2) go F yourself
We will be back next year. All part of the process of building elite program.
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:39:09 PM
is this not a legitimate question to ponder at the end of this season, where can we go from here. With the loss of those two, who will carry us to the ncaa tourney next year .... please tell me
Jamil has the potential to step up. So does Mayo. Junior, aside from a couple HUGE eggs, was solid enough to get us into the tournament. Blue needs to get his basketball IQ up and will be fine. Lets not forget that we will have a defensive boost from the 5 when Otule comes back, along with an offensive boost from the 5 when Gardner is at 100%.
I just rattled off 6 guys that are NCAA tournament caliber. Juan and Jamail will have plenty of opportunities early to earn their spots on the depth chart, Derrick will be a more mature backup PG, and any contributions from the new guys will help out too.
So ya, other than that, this team is doomed and bound for the NIT.
no chance we dont make the tourney next year. The conference will be weak and we have grat players coming back. TJ Taylor will be great.
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
What are the chances we get back to the tourney next year, im thinking pretty low unfortunately. Dang i wish we could have ended it this year with a game.
People always overreact one way or the other. We won't be as good, but we won't be that bad either. Probably in the 25-40 range in the nation, unless someone like Vander breaks out.
Quote from: IrritatedWhiteCat on March 22, 2012, 11:49:20 PM
no chance we dont make the tourney next year. The conference will be weak and we have grat players coming back. TJ Taylor will be great.
So will Steve Taylor. You could see tonight that Todd Mayo started to take a bit of a leadership role as far as his effort goes. Jamil was leading vocally with Crowder on the bench in the first half. There is a lot to be excited about and we will be fine. I predict a little more even scoring spread next year amongst the 7 man rotation.
If Vander can finish around the rim he could be a real stud. Has plenty of confidence with the ball in his hands. I think Todd is going to have a huge Soph year. Too much natural talent and work ethic not to. Otule returning will be huge. Would love to see Juan's athleticism used more. Jamil showed today that he has what it takes to be a big threat. I hope he steps it up a bit next year. Similar to the jump Jimmy Butler made between his first and second years. We should be a good team with a lot of depth.
We'll miss Crowder and DJO. But I would be shocked if we don't make the tournament. We lose Crowder and DJO, but we add two centers (I know Gardner played. But he didn't play like we know he can once he's healthy). We will drop, but step away from the ledge, it's not going to be a freefall.
not quite I would call Marquette elite at this point...
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
We will be back next year. All part of the process of building elite program.
A year ago Jae Crowder was coming off the bench behind Eric Williams because he couldn't stay out of foul trouble. Someone will step up. We'll be fine.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 22, 2012, 11:59:11 PM
not quite I would call Marquette elite at this point...
Hense why he said part of the process of building an elite program. Thanks for playing.
we'll be a ff team well ahead of UW if we can keep it going w/out any more trouble or bad kids.
Dekker is another white hype that will do nothing like Gasser. Koenig can't carry Duane Wilsons jock
I hate to be negative, but we are due for a big setback next year. We have bigs that are injury prone and guards that have trouble scoring coming back next year. DJO and Crowder will be severely missed next year. Do we have anyone that can create their own shot coming back? I don't see it.
Great run this year, was hoping we could go further, but shots were not falling tonight. Great 2011-12 season.
If the bubble is at all like this year, we will be in the tournament. The bubble was brutal this year. In a "down" Big East, we still got 9 teams in.
If health holds up and everybody makes a normal progression, I see a 40 minutes of hell type team. Less reliant on two guys, possibly just as successful. There are things that concern me, but I can foresee a final result similar to this season.
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 22, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
What are the chances we get back to the tourney next year, im thinking pretty low unfortunately. Dang i wish we could have ended it this year with a game.
IF you were the Warrior captain in '46-'47, that makes you around 85 years old, right?
Mama always told me to respect your elders..
I'd say there's an excellent chance that we make the tournament next year.
Buzz has coached four entirely different teams since he has been here. He has proven he can build a scheme to match the talent and abilities of the players he has.
All those guys who were in the bar underage will be a year older both in mind and body. They are all gifted basketball players and athletes and will continue to improve. MU is a young team. It had FOUR Jrs and Srs on this year's team -- one of whom didn't play most of the year.
New leaders always emerge in an environment that builds them.
Quote from: Badgerhater on March 23, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Buzz has coached four entirely different teams since he has been here. He has proven he can build a scheme to match the talent and abilities of the players he has.
All those guys who were in the bar underage will be a year older both in mind and body. They are all gifted basketball players and athletes and will continue to improve. MU is a young team. It had FOUR Jrs and Srs on this year's team -- one of whom didn't play most of the year.
New leaders always emerge in an environment that builds them.
He basically coached two different teams just this season.
Quote from: IrritatedWhiteCat on March 23, 2012, 12:10:41 AM
we'll be a ff team well ahead of UW if we can keep it going w/out any more trouble or bad kids.
Dekker is another white hype that will do nothing like Gasser. Koenig can't carry Duane Wilsons jock
Dekker and Koenig will be good players. Bo's team was a point away from the Elite 8. Give them their due, they play hard, solid defense and are always in games it seems despite their perceived lack of athleticism.
MU will make the NCAA tournament next year, probably as a 8 through 10 seed.
Next year will be more of a struggle losing DJO and Jae, and I could see us going like 22-10, 10-8 instead of 25-7, 14-4
Here's what's gone (or needs to be replaced somehow):
- Two starters with over 1120+ min logged each. (Next highest: Junior, 972 min.)
- 47% of MU's point production
- 41% of FTs made
- 69% 3pts made
- 39% steals
- Two go-to scorers
Here's what's left:
- 2 seniors (Junior, Chris - if he comes back)
- 4 juniors (Jamil, Vander, Davante, Jamail)
- 3 sophs (Todd, Derrick, Juan)
- 4 players who have played in back-to-back Sweet 16 runs (Junior, Vander, Davante, Jamail)
--- 6 if you include: Jamil was a sitting transfer last year; Chris was injured early this season
- Most of all, Buzz and his staff
NIT is not the right target for this team. Realistic? Well, anything can happen, so yes with so much lost scoring and senior leadership. But the jury is out until Chris's health and future plans are revealed as well as Davante's complete recovery from his knee injury.
If you were to force a prediction from me, I'd say we're a bubble team.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 23, 2012, 08:16:48 PM
Here's what's gone (or needs to be replaced somehow):
- Two starters with over 1120+ min logged each. (Next highest: Junior, 972 min.)
- 47% of MU's point production
- 41% of FTs made
- 69% 3pts made
- 39% steals
- Two go-to scorers
Here's what's left:
- 2 seniors (Junior, Chris - if he comes back)
- 4 juniors (Jamil, Vander, Davante, Jamail)
- 3 sophs (Todd, Derrick, Juan)
- 4 players who have played in back-to-back Sweet 16 runs (Junior, Vander, Davante, Jamail)
--- 6 if you include: Jamil was a sitting transfer last year; Chris was injured early this season
- Most of all, Buzz and his staff
NIT is not the right target for this team. Realistic? Well, anything can happen, so yes with so much lost scoring and senior leadership. But the jury is out until Chris's health and future plans are revealed as well as Davante's complete recovery from his knee injury.
If you were to force a prediction from me, I'd say we're a bubble team.
Great post. After successfully declaring that we'd be a three seed last summer(to a table full of notre dame grads and their ad), I'm saying 10 seed for next year's squad.
Quote from: RawdogDX on March 23, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
Great post. After successfully declaring that we'd be a three seed last summer(to a table full of notre dame grads and their ad), I'm saying 10 seed for next year's squad.
I'd say 8-10 seed second round exit but who knows
We have had a few years in a row where we had players that could hit the tough shots. Hayward, Butler, DJO and Crowder. I think we have talent, but I need to see who is going to step up when th game is on the line. I have high hopes for Mayo and Gardner, but you cannot just assume they will be as tough as DJO and Crowder.
Quote from: bilsu on March 23, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
We have had a few years in a row where we had players that could hit the tough shots. Hayward, Butler, DJO and Crowder. I think we have talent, but I need to see who is going to step up when th game is on the line. I have high hopes for Mayo and Gardner, but you cannot just assume they will be as tough as DJO and Crowder.
Exactly. I'll expand on this as well. When the amigos graduated, you still had guys that could make shots consistently, as well as take care of the basketball.
Right now, I don't see a ton of either coming back next year. Mayo and TJ Taylor better be very good, because giving Vander and Junior the keys scares the mess out of me.
I agree with the last couple posts that having that go-to, tough shots, clutch player is missing (so far) from what we're bringing back. The only thing I can hope is that someone evolves like Jimmy did last year. When Cubi, Acker, Lazar left, look at what we were bringing back to the following season - we were DEFINITELY missing that guy at the end of the season too.