Jamil Wilson talked a lot and they focused on the high graduation rates and academic support the players get. Pretty nice national coverage!
Exactly why the basketball program is the school's best marketing plan. Where else can you make a ton of money in a month and get virtually unlimited exposure of the school? We need an elite program and inches away from getting there.
I saw that when I was out at lunch. No CC was on so I wasn't able to hear it, but its nice to see "Marquette's success off the court" as a headline on CNN. Especially after the local reporting for Milwaukee in the past few days.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2012, 12:57:41 PM
Exactly why the basketball program is the school's best marketing plan. Where else can you make a ton of money in a month and get virtually unlimited exposure of the school? We need an elite program and inches away from getting there.
Shouldn't totally rely on it, though. Butler faced some serious budget cuts this year because they failed to hit their enrollment targets - after making to the championship game the previous two years.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 01:02:20 PM
Shouldn't totally rely on it, though. Butler faced some serious budget cuts this year because they failed to hit their enrollment targets - after making to the championship game the previous two years.
MU's application totals have exploded in the last 9 years, though.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on March 22, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
MU's application totals have exploded in the last 9 years, though.
Applications and enrollment are two different things. The last time I checked, Marquette's yield rate (ratio of acceptances/enrollments) is barely above 15%, meaning that only about one in six students they accept wind up on campus the following fall.
Also, much of the explosion in applications can be traced back to the Common Application, where a student fills out one online application and can send it to any number of the hundreds of schools that accept it (from the Ivies on down). Kids that used to apply to 3-4 schools are now applying to twice that many.
i uploaded the story to youtube for those that missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVeTAvel4Sk&feature=youtu.be
Adriane is awesome.
Quote from: BareChestedBuzz on March 22, 2012, 02:50:47 PM
i uploaded the story to youtube for those that missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVeTAvel4Sk&feature=youtu.be
Thanks! Very nice press to show the school's commitment to the student athletes. Loved that they talked to Jamil - I get the impression he stays miles from trouble off the court and that he's one of the most successful student athletes academically. Pretty impressive that he's on track to graduate in four years even after transferring in after his freshman year.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Applications and enrollment are two different things. The last time I checked, Marquette's yield rate (ratio of acceptances/enrollments) is barely above 15%, meaning that only about one in six students they accept wind up on campus the following fall.
Also, much of the explosion in applications can be traced back to the Common Application, where a student fills out one online application and can send it to any number of the hundreds of schools that accept it (from the Ivies on down). Kids that used to apply to 3-4 schools are now applying to twice that many.
MU still has room in classrooms for more students. The problem currently is residence hall space for frosh and sophs.
Quote from: foreverwarriors on March 22, 2012, 03:55:01 PM
MU still has room in classrooms for more students. The problem currently is residence hall space for frosh and sophs.
Read the enire thread and you will see the point I was trying to make. :)
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Applications and enrollment are two different things. The last time I checked, Marquette's yield rate (ratio of acceptances/enrollments) is barely above 15%, meaning that only about one in six students they accept wind up on campus the following fall.
Also, much of the explosion in applications can be traced back to the Common Application, where a student fills out one online application and can send it to any number of the hundreds of schools that accept it (from the Ivies on down). Kids that used to apply to 3-4 schools are now applying to twice that many.
Marquette's financial aid is pretty average, if not below average, when compared to many of its peer institutions though.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Applications and enrollment are two different things. The last time I checked, Marquette's yield rate (ratio of acceptances/enrollments) is barely above 15%, meaning that only about one in six students they accept wind up on campus the following fall.
Also, much of the explosion in applications can be traced back to the Common Application, where a student fills out one online application and can send it to any number of the hundreds of schools that accept it (from the Ivies on down). Kids that used to apply to 3-4 schools are now applying to twice that many.
Yeah, I laugh every time I see this "application explosion" line. How many times does someone have to point out the existence of the common application? Do these people know that the Berlin Wall came down recently?
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 03:56:23 PM
Read the enire thread and you will see the point I was trying to make. :)
I wasn't disagreeing with your point.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 22, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Marquette's financial aid is pretty average, if not below average, when compared to many of its peer institutions though.
I would say below average. My sister who would be an incoming freshman next year was offered scholarships worth $7k less than those offered Depaul, Loyola Chicago, and St. Norbert's. Marquette obviously wins the athletics debate, but academically, they are all very similar.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 22, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Marquette's financial aid is pretty average, if not below average, when compared to many of its peer institutions though.
Agreed. But don't gripe about it unless you are a donor. Where do you think that scholarship $$ comes from?
Still nice coverage!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 22, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Marquette's financial aid is pretty average, if not below average, when compared to many of its peer institutions though.
Demand plays a big role...why discount when the class fills up anyway? The biggest plus of joining the Big East is the western and northern migration into MU. More students from IL now at MU than Wisconsin, mainly the richer West and NW Chicago suburbs. The Milwaukee East Side and downtown transformation to a much younger, educated crowd is very appealing.
Like the story - gives me a good feeling before the FLA gams.
So, MU's basketball budget is so large because MU goes the extra mile academically? Sweet.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 22, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
Demand plays a big role...why discount when the class fills up anyway? The biggest plus of joining the Big East is the western and northern migration into MU. More students from IL now at MU than Wisconsin, mainly the richer West and NW Chicago suburbs. The Milwaukee East Side and downtown transformation to a much younger, educated crowd is very appealing.
It only fills up because you can get unlimited federal student loans, which can only go on for so long when students start not being able to pay off their college debt (we're almost to that point, IMO). When the govt stops giving out those loans, MUs price will either need to go down, or enrollment will do so.
All you young folks will see more reasonable costs for college for your kids. I will have two at MU in 2013 and know I am paying at the peak. Tuitions have to go down or the schools will not get students. My wife, kids and I sacrificed a ton to put college money away and glad we did. Knock on wood my kids will be loan free when they finish.
Hate to say it but when it comes to education, the more expensive schools are perceived as better. This is why the Ivies are over $60k/year for tuition (room and board extra). Boston College is $57k.
The price of education will continue to go up, not down. Kids will continue to get government loans in such great size that they become the next subprime mortgage. Then they will blow up and the price of education will collapse, like housing prices collapsed.
So the good news is education will soon peak and tuition bills will fall. The bad news is employment and the stock market will take it on the chops along with tuition prices.
Final thought - tuition is like gas prices. They will go down, and possibly go down a lot. But, you will not like the reason they are going down.
Sorry for the gloom and doom. In a few hours we will destroy Florida and you will feel better.
The internet could very well be a game changer here. More degrees programs online means that there will be more affordable options. Actually being "resident" at a college may become a luxury.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2012, 05:27:32 PM
All you young folks will see more reasonable costs for college for your kids. I will have two at MU in 2013 and know I am paying at the peak. Tuitions have to go down or the schools will not get students. My wife, kids and I sacrificed a ton to put college money away and glad we did. Knock on wood my kids will be loan free when they finish.
I've got one in now and another going next year. They both will have small loans and pay a little toward expenses. I want them to have some skin in the game so they appreciate their education (unlike me ;))
Just rewatched the video, and my one beef with it is that it seems to suggest that Marquette put all of their academic programs in place in response to the NCAA regulations and as a way to improve a less than stellar record in that area. I wish they had made it clearer that Marquette's basketball players have always had among the highest graduation rates in the nation.
Short tail...agree on skin in the game . My two oldest are done and paid 99% of their screwing around money. They definitely learned to get by with less and figure out how to fun on a budget. But, I do agree with yor thought completely.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2012, 06:49:21 PM
Just rewatched the video, and my one beef with it is that it seems to suggest that Marquette put all of their academic programs in place in response to the NCAA regulations and as a way to improve a less than stellar record in that area. I wish they had made it clearer that Marquette's basketball players have always had among the highest graduation rates in the nation.
Didn't get that impression at all. Just thought they highlighted a program that takes its academics seriously.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 22, 2012, 05:39:01 PM
Hate to say it but when it comes to education, the more expensive schools are perceived as better. This is why the Ivies are over $60k/year for tuition (room and board extra). Boston College is $57k.
The price of education will continue to go up, not down. Kids will continue to get government loans in such great size that they become the next subprime mortgage. Then they will blow up and the price of education will collapse, like housing prices collapsed.
So the good news is education will soon peak and tuition bills will fall. The bad news is employment and the stock market will take it on the chops along with tuition prices.
Final thought - tuition is like gas prices. They will go down, and possibly go down a lot. But, you will not like the reason they are going down.
Sorry for the gloom and doom. In a few hours we will destroy Florida and you will feel better.
I agree in spirit, not in method. Subprime mortgages, like credit card, business, and personal debt, can simply be walked away from (e.g. bankruptcy) leaving the creditor or debt holder out of luck. That's why subprime collapsed the economy... too many people walked away and creditors had little recourse to recover their money.
Student loans are virtually indestructible. Can't be discharged in 99.89% of cases, and so the money is nearly always repaid eventually. What isn't repaid or is paid in delinquency doesn't come close to affecting the world economy.
What will happen however, is that the Feds will stop guaranteeing the loans and/or may require a partial guarantee from the school. Schools will fight this to the death, but eventually it has to happen... an education system that creates indentured servants who spend 30 years paying off student loans is simply not sustainable.
Sorry this thread turned out like this. What a great story in every way. Can't buy this kind of pub (even w a $10 million plus budget ;) )
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 22, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
Sorry this thread turned out like this. What a great story in every way. Can't buy this kind of pub (even w a $10 million plus budget ;) )
Clearly there's a conspiracy on this board to always focus on the negative when it comes to Marquette ;)