Had some great info on Murray, can we get the same for the gators?
hardly watched any of their games this year, i think i saw them play Cuse pretty tough for a while though...
I'm curious about their height, rebounding and defense, as those have been the biggest troubles for us - specifically in the last 7-8 games as they have gotten healthy and played well (like louisville) recently.
any stats/insight would be great. thanks!
Based on their game today, they take 456 three pointers a game.
i feel like when we play great 3-pt shooting teams, we usually do well. whereas when we dont hear much about the 3, some random 7th guy off the bench comes in and hits 5 shots in 10 min... does that sound accurate?
Interesting comparison...
http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/compare?t1-season=2011-2012&t1=florida&t2=marquette
Offensively they are a top 5 squad, defensively they struggle a bit, but still fairly solid.
National Rank: PPG - RPG - APG - FG% - SOS - RPI
Florida: 27th - 135th - 34th - 66th - 24th - 30th
Marq: 31st - 102nd - 7th - 73rd - 17th - 9th
KenPom: adjOff - adjDef - adjTempo - Best Win - Worst Loss
Florida: 3rd - 74th - 219th - Vanderbilt-h (#15) - Rutgers-a (#117)
Marq: 27th - 20th - 15th - Wisconsin-a (#5) - LSU (#100)
Florida Depth
Starters (Beal, Boynton, Murphy, Walker, Young) account for 75% of the team's minutes (149 of 200)
Florida will go four deep on the bench; however, only two (Rosario and Wilbekin) have logged meaningful minutes towards the end of the season.
Florida Size
-Murphy, jr, 6-10: Averages 10.5 points, 4 boards and 1 block in 26 minutes per game. Although he has not fouled out of a game this year, he does average 2.6 fouls per game and has had 4 fouls in 9 games this season (team was 6-3 in those games). He is a 3pt threat, averaging 1.8 makes in 4.1 attempts this season. Has hit 4 or more from downtown in five games this year (including a 4 for 4 performance against Kentucky on Mar 10th). Good FT shooter (80%), although he doesn't get to the line much more than once per game.
-Pitchford, fr, 6-10: 22 mins., 6 pts., 4 rebounds for the year, total (not per game average). Likely non-factor on Thursday.
-Young, so, 6-9: Averages 10 points and 6 boards in 26 minutes. Also gets into foul trouble... 4 or more fouls in 11 games, fouled out 3 times). 60% FT shooter, averages 1.5 makes in 2.5 attempts.
-Larson, fr, 6-9: Hasn't made a basket since Dec 9th. Averages 5 minutes per game.
No other meaningful "contributors" stand over 6-3.
Florida Shooters
Boynton and Murphy hit over 40% from range; Beal, Rosario and Walker hit 33% from range.
Boynton averages 3 makes per game from downtown; Walker, Murphy & Beal average almost 2.
As a team, Florida averages 10 three-pointers per game on 26 attempts. They're the top 3-pt shooting team in the country.
Starting Five Stats: PPG - FTA/g - A/TO - FG%
Beal: 14.6 - 4.9 - 1:1 - 43.4%
Boynton: 16.1 - 3.6 - 1.8:1 - 44.8%
Murphy: 10.5 - 1.2 - 0.8:1 - 49.2%
Walker: 12.1 - 3.6 - 2.3:1 - 39.9%
Young: 10.3 - 2.5 - 0.7:1 - 61.8%
Young and Murphy are big, but they're not your typical "bang-em-in-the-post" type of players. Murphy has the ability to stretch the defense by shooting from the arc, and Beal (6-3) leads the team in rebounding. They do a good job of spreading the scoring and rebounding around and really don't have a dominant player (like Cannan) that you can focus on shutting down. Anyone will score from anywhere, so you can't double team in the paint or you're going to get burnt from the arc. They are going to shoot from the arc early and often. If they're not making those shots, they are extremely vulnerable... if the threes are falling, MU is going to have itself a handful.
However, Florida is only an average defensive team... they're going to force MU into a half court game and beat them by outscoring them. MU needs to take away their inside game early and then clamp down on them and force them to make low-percentage shots from the floor & arc. When MU has the ball, they need to attack the paint, exploit them on defense, and make Young & Murphy send you to the line. These teams are a great match-up, but I have a feeling that whoever controls the glass is going control the game. Fortunately, Marquette should have the edge in that regard.
thanks again benny, looks like another battle.
In Feb. 6 AP poll, Florida was ranked 8th -- 10 spots ahead of Marquette.
Rankings are what they are. Just throwing this out there to reinforce what I'm sure most already know: Florida is a talented team that had great expectations before hitting a speed bump and is playing very well again. They shoot like crazy!
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
In Feb. 6 AP poll, Florida was ranked 8th -- 10 spots ahead of Marquette.
Rankings are what they are. Just throwing this out there to reinforce what I'm sure most already know: Florida is a talented team that had great expectations before hitting a speed bump and is playing very well again. They shoot like crazy!
On top of that they're ranked #12 in Pomeroy right now and #11 in Sagarin. MU is #17 & 11, respectively. This ain't a normal 7 seed we're going up against. I just hope we can get one of their bigs in foul trouble early and take advantage of their weak defense.
Quote from: Benny B on March 19, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
Florida will go four deep on the bench; however, only two (Rosario and Wilbekin) have logged meaningful minutes towards the end of the season.
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No other meaningful "contributors" stand over 6-3.
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Young ... [is] big, but they're not your typical "bang-em-in-the-post" type of players.
Two points:
1. On the first two bits I quoted, you might want to check the box score from UF's game with UVa.
2. On Young, really?
Now I have a question for people here:
Did Wilson take over the starting forward position from Gardner at some point or have they swapped the starting position back and forth? If it was the former, why was do you think the starting spot changed?
Quote from: InstiGATOR on March 19, 2012, 12:03:01 PMNow I have a question for people here:
Did Wilson take over the starting forward position from Gardner at some point or have they swapped the starting position back and forth? If it was the former, why was do you think the starting spot changed?
Actually, it's Otule's starting spot. CO was injured in the first minute of our win over Washington at MSG, turned out to be a season-ending knee injury. Gardner, as backup center, took the starting role. Then he went down to injury in the final minute of our win at Villanova. Didn't require surgery, but it took him about 5 weeks to get back, and only now is he really looking like he's rounding back to health.
With Gardner out, Wilson had to take the starting role. He's our only guy with the requisite length and experience (3rd year sophomore transfer). Because of Wilson's build, it allowed us to play much faster, and while he isn't the offensive threat DG is in the post, we are a much sleeker and transition-oriented team with him in the lineup. Because it worked so well, Buzz kept him in the starting lineup. In addition, Gardner doesn't have near the hops, and is best in limited (12-20) minutes so it makes sense to have Wilson for the opening tip.
Also, Wilson is a bit better on the defensive end, which is a huge priority for Buzz. Gardner made sense initially as the only other center, but Buzz is no stranger to running an undersized post (see 2008-09 Dwight Burke, 2009-10 Lazar Hayward).
It's partially that it allows us to be a faster team and partially just the way injuries worked out. But I've no doubts now that Wilson will start from here on out, but it is also no indictment of Davante's abilities. Around the hoop, I honestly don't think there's anyone better in the country at putting up on-target shots. Whether he's shooting, tipping, set, or completely off-balance, most everything he puts in the direction of the hoop is likely going to go in or be damn close to it.
Quote from: InstiGATOR on March 19, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
Two points:
1. On the first two bits I quoted, you might want to check the box score from UF's game with UVa.
2. On Young, really?
1. the game was pretty much in hand over the last 10:00 minutes. 19pt lead with 10:07. You're going to get minutes, but I wouldn't call those meaningful.
2. Haven't seen Young play, but if you compare his stats to Gardner: http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?p1=patric-young&p2=davante-gardner
The numbers are pretty similar. Comparing their physical attributes - 290 vs. 245 - Gardner's more of a "banger."
Quote from: InstiGATOR on March 19, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
Two points:
1. On the first two bits I quoted, you might want to check the box score from UF's game with UVa.
2. On Young, really?
Perhaps if I used the term "consistent" as a qualifier, it would have cleared things up.
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Quote from: Benny B on March 19, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
Perhaps if I used the term "consistent" as a qualifier, it would have cleared things up.
I agree with this characterization more. As when you apparently lost a rotation guy [a starter apparently in the Marquette case], UF lost Yeguete late in the year and is working through who plays his minutes.
I have been thinking about playing a three point team. What we need to do is not panic if Florida hits some threes. I think the temptation is to try and match them. They average arround 10 3's game and teams usually shoot better against MU. So lets assume they hit 12 and MU hits 4. They hit 8 more threes than us, but we get one more basket that makes the deficit 6. We get to the free throw line 10 more times and make 7 more free throws and we win the game by one. Our game is taking it to the basket and drawing fouls. What we need to do is win the rebound battle and have less turnovers and we will still be in the game. The key is not to panic when they hit three straight. Play our game, play it well and we win inpsite of them hitting threes.
Live by the three. Die by the three.