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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: LastWarrior on May 31, 2007, 05:53:39 PM
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Donovan to Orlando Magic!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2888555 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2888555)
Just wanted to be the first to post the rumor...
Crean to Florida!
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not needed
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anthony grant
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Would u blame Crean if FL wanted him?? It is a bigger program than MU ever will be
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no, i would not blame Crean for FL wanting him. I'm simply saying he has a real good thing going for him now and really, really big shoes to fill if he would go to FL...and this early after Donovan takes the Magic job is not time to start throwing around more "Crean is outta here" rumors.
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TIme out.
Florida was NOTHING until Donovan. Nothing. MU is in a tougher/better conference (or at least, it's equivalent), UF is a football school, and UF just lost their entire starting lineup. I think Crean would be better off staying at MU over Florida. I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
Then again, if he went to UF, think of the money he'd save at the tanning booth.
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valid point niv.
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Nice tanning joke! Now ya gotta bust out the unfrozen caveman coach stuff!!! And sorry to say, since Donovan did what he did at UF, it is more of a job people would want to have over coaching at MU
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Not when he's losing his entire team it's not.
For a new coach to go in there now, you are totally starting over. The program could lose recruits as a result of the coach leaving too. So, in essence, Crean would be right back where he was when he took the MU job...only with millions more in his bank account.
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TIme out.
Florida was NOTHING until Donovan. Nothing. MU is in a tougher/better conference (or at least, it's equivalent), UF is a football school, and UF just lost their entire starting lineup. I think Crean would be better off staying at MU over Florida. I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
Then again, if he went to UF, think of the money he'd save at the tanning booth.
Which is it, tougher or better or equivalent? That is a George Bush response. BTW, Florida had succes before Billy. Go back a few years, you will see.
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Anthony Grant from Vandy seems like the perfect hire. Or at least, he'd be my option #1. Plus, you know Grant will get Donovan's blessing (not that it matters a ton, but I think Grant will get this gig).
Regardless, it totally sucks for college hoops to have this happen at such a late juncture. And again, it points to the hypocrisy of the NCAA regarding allowing players to transfer vs. allowing coaches to bolt at any reason w/no penalties whatsoever.
Now, you are going to have at least two, maybe three schools all w/out DI coaches and it's friggin' June. Terrible timing.
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TIme out.
Florida was NOTHING until Donovan. Nothing. MU is in a tougher/better conference (or at least, it's equivalent), UF is a football school, and UF just lost their entire starting lineup. I think Crean would be better off staying at MU over Florida. I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
Then again, if he went to UF, think of the money he'd save at the tanning booth.
Which is it, tougher or better or equivalent? That is a George Bush response. BTW, Florida had succes before Billy. Go back a few years, you will see.
I think tougher/better are equivalent when it comes to the B.East and SEC. That's all I meant.
By making the cop-out it's at least an "equivalent" job, I did that so as not to spurn an entire chain of emails comparing every MU vs. UF stat proving which job is better.
I'll stand on record and say MU is a better job and that the B.East is a better AND tougher conference. We'll see what Tom thinks.
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Is that why he's down there with DJ in Orlando?
HmMMMMMMMMMMMM?!? ???
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Lon Kruger took Florida to the Final Four so it wasn't exactly nothing before Donovan.
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Anthony Grant is at Virginia Commonwealth U (VCU) not Vandy (Vanderbilt), either way let's hope he is choice #1 and not you know who.
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Lon Kruger took Florida to the Final Four so it wasn't exactly nothing before Donovan.
And lest we forget, pre-Donovan Florida also produced the greatest mullet-headed baller of all time: Dwayne Schintzius.
(http://thedraftreview.com/history/drafted1990/images/dwayne-schintzius.jpg)
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Well, I hope Crean is able and is fast enough to swoop in on a couple of Donovan's 5-star 2008 prospects, like JaMychal Green, Kenny Kadji, Michael Dunigan, et. al.
Heck, I would be happy get perhaps one of the 4-star guys that had been interested in attending FLA for 2008. The problem I see is, Donovan was simply in another league as to having access to top recruits. There are few if any on the FLA lists that were even considering MU.
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Heck, I would be happy get perhaps one of the 4-star guys that had been interested in attending FLA for 2008. The problem I see is, Donovan was simply in another league as to having access to top recruits. There are few if any on the FLA lists that were even considering MU.
We have one... Trevor Mbakwe chose MU over Florida.
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Dear Lord that's gruesome. I just almost puked all over my keyboard at work. I've always wondered how you end up with a mullet. Do you literally walk in to the barber, sit in the chair, and say, "Give me a mullet?" Or do you say, "Business in front, party in the back?" And as a barber, are you obliged under the Barber's Code of Ethics to object at least three times, then give a minimum three-minute lecture on the detrimental side-effects associated with leaving your house with a mullet?
I've honestly always wondered this. If anyone has ever went to a barber and walked away with a mullet, please inform me of the process.
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Heck, I would be happy get perhaps one of the 4-star guys that had been interested in attending FLA for 2008. The problem I see is, Donovan was simply in another league as to having access to top recruits. There are few if any on the FLA lists that were even considering MU.
We have one... Trevor Mbakwe chose MU over Florida.
Is Trevor in the class of 2008?
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"Marquette coach Tom Crean and Villanova coach Jay Wright also could surface as potential candidates.
"Florida has always been an excellent job," Crean said Thursday at the NBA draft combine in Orlando. "(But) I'm happy at Marquette." "
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"Marquette coach Tom Crean and Villanova coach Jay Wright also could surface as potential candidates.
"Florida has always been an excellent job," Crean said Thursday at the NBA draft combine in Orlando. "(But) I'm happy at Marquette." "
You missed the best part of the interview.
"I think Florida has always been an excellent job," he said. "Norm Sloan won there. Lon Kruger won there. Billy Donovan kept taking it to greater heights. It's always been one of those great jobs. It's one of the great positions in basketball. But there are some. I feel like I've got one, too."
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070601/GATORS02/706010341/-1/sports
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I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
You have to be kidding?
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I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
You have to be kidding?
The problem I see is simple. Who in their right mind would want to follow Donovan coming off 2 national titles? Whomever it is, will be run out of town by year 5 if they don't win another...a Final Four won't even be good enough.
That alone makes it a less attractive job because of the insane expectations.
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Spot on, Chico. Let us assume for the sake of argument that TC goes to Fla, goes to the tourney 8 straight years with one final 4 and 3 sweet 16's. Because of BD, they will want his head on a platter and his heart on a spit. It is nearly always impossible to follow a legend.
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While it is difficult to follow up the results of Donavan, I would disagree that a Final Four appearance would not be enough to make the fans happy, especially since they lost practically all their big players to the NBA. If they are a Sweet 16 team, i think the fans would still be fairly happy since they would have a new coach and pretty much a whole different starting lineup.
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has the balls to try especially if the sheckles are right.
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I see that job as a lateral move, and not necessarily a step up.
So, other than money, why make a lateral?
You have to be kidding?
The problem I see is simple. Who in their right mind would want to follow Donovan coming off 2 national titles? Whomever it is, will be run out of town by year 5 if they don't win another...a Final Four won't even be good enough.
That alone makes it a less attractive job because of the insane expectations.
The expectations are one of the reasons the lateral move comment was so out of touch. It is not unrealistic to expect Fla. to again challenge for a a NC with the right hire in the next 5 years.
The downside of the expectations is another issue. If a coach is not confident that he can keep things rolling he may want to stay away. What will help is that Florida is a football school. There is less pressure on the basketball coach compared to football. There will be a honeymoon period with the major focus on the gridiron.
Sloan, Kruger and Donovan all had success at Florida. No reason to believe the right coach would not also have similar success.