FINALLY a good move by the Bucks. Trade Bogut and Stephen Jackson for Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, and the expiring contract of Kwame Brown.
I wonder if this makes it more or less likely that they trade Jennings. An Ellis/Jennings backcourt will be very interesting. A lot of shots going up from the outside. I would love to see Jennings traded for a pass-first point guard. Maybe package him and someone else for Rajon Rondo. Would love that. Won't happen though.
Ekpe Udoh could turn out to be a nice player in the future.
I believe Ellis has two years remaining on his current contract.
I was just saying with a friend yesterday that it seems like its time for the Bucks to blow it up and start over. Bogut is a good player, and getting Ellis might be as much as you were going to get for him considering how often he's injured. I would deal Jennings soon as well, considering he's basically said he wants to move on after his contract is up.
In the NBA, can you turn around and now repackage players? If so - look for Ellis to head to Orlando. The Magic were trying to get him to placate Howard, but the Warriors weren't happy with the return. I would imagine a volume shooter like Ellis would drive Skiles insane. I don't think those two coexist well. A Jennings-Ellis backcourt sounds like the type of think Skiles has nightmares about. I think the trade makes sense from a value perspective moving forward, but not so much from an court product perspective.
Getting Udoh certainly makes the 4 yr, $18.7 million for Mbah a Moute redundant though... Time to start looking for a taker on that.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 13, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
Getting Udoh certainly makes the 4 yr, $18.7 million for Mbah a Moute redundant though... Time to start looking for a taker on that.
They are totally different types of players.
Also, there is no reason to get anything other than draft picks for our good players... anything else is really a waste since you will have to over pay almost any player to get them to come to MKE.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 14, 2012, 05:09:11 AM
They are totally different types of players.
Also, there is no reason to get anything other than draft picks for our good players... anything else is really a waste since you will have to over pay almost any player to get them to come to MKE.
Agree with the bolded part. I think the redundant players would be Harris, Udoh, and Sanders. Harris seems to be more offensively gifted than the other 2, but Udoh and Sanders seem to be defensive minded power forwards. If I'm the Bucks I look to trade Sanders if there is interest. Maybe package him, Jennings, and Gooden for either a center or a point guard. Jennings has all but said he's outta here when his contract expires and him and Ellis in the same backcourt will be...interesting. Might as well deal him and get something out of it instead of just watching him walk. I'd prefer to get a center as Udrih and Livingston could be OK platooning at point guard, but if you could get Rondo somehow that'd be incredible. I wonder if the Lakers would have any interest in giving up either Gasol (more likely) or Bynum (to go along with some bum) for that package. They would get their point guard and then a power forward to play alongside the center they did not trade.
As far as trading for anything other than draft picks, it all depends on the player's contract. There is no sense in renting a player for the remainder of the year, or even if there is just 1 year left on the contract, but if they're under contract it doesn't matter if they want to get out of Milwaukee, they can't. That's why Ellis being here is great.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 14, 2012, 05:09:11 AM
They are totally different types of players.
Also, there is no reason to get anything other than draft picks for our good players... anything else is really a waste since you will have to over pay almost any player to get them to come to MKE.
Evidently things have changed since since my last Bucks game... 3 years ago... but I thought that Mbah a Moute was an offensively challenged stopper that was best at guarding the 4 - which seems to be Udoh's profile. What am i missing?
It's a swap of bench-level players for bench-level players. None of the guys involved should are even at the leve of starter, let alone good.
Bucks win the trade simply by virtue of getting rid of SJax, whose presence on the team was actually costing them wins. Bucks trade negative 0.45 wins for 2.1 wins. w00t
The overall collection of talent on the Bucks is terrible and only got marginally better. Don't get excited.
Bucks student section > MU student section (except for GU game)
/lobs grenade
some good comments from GS fans on the trade here: http://www.620wtmj.com/blogs/gregmatzek/142613686.html
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 14, 2012, 12:15:55 PM
It's a swap of bench-level players for bench-level players. None of the guys involved should are even at the leve of starter, let alone good.
Bucks win the trade simply by virtue of getting rid of SJax, whose presence on the team was actually costing them wins. Bucks trade negative 0.45 wins for 2.1 wins. w00t
The overall collection of talent on the Bucks is terrible and only got marginally better. Don't get excited.
I hope you're joking Henry. Monta Ellis is a bench player? No.
Just... No.