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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Mayor McCheese on March 11, 2012, 06:14:17 PM

Title: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Mayor McCheese on March 11, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
Title basically says it all - who do you think got robbed in their seed?

I'll throw out Creighton - an 8 seed?  28-5 - MVC Champs, Doug McDermott - if I'm UNC, not happy that this would be my 2nd round opponent.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: lab_warrior on March 11, 2012, 06:18:30 PM
Memphis.  Oof.  Also dumped down to an 8.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Real Chilly Podcast on March 11, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
WVU a 10???... they had the BEast's leading scorer and rebounder!
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: boyonthedock on March 11, 2012, 06:21:28 PM
2nd vote for memphis.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 11, 2012, 06:24:14 PM
Creighton got massively screwed. They went 1-1 vs Wichita State but won the conference tourney and got 3 seeds worse???????
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: lab_warrior on March 11, 2012, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 11, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
WVU a 10???... they had the BEast's leading scorer and rebounder!

CONSPIRACY!  Those Catholic schools, what a bunch of schemers! 
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 11, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
Memphis, no doubt. Creighton was only off by 1 line in my estimation, but the Tigers should have been a 5. They had the RPI, SOS, won their regular season and conference tournament, what else were they supposed to do?

I could see them in the Sweet 16 or further.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 11, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 11, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
WVU a 10???... they had the BEast's leading scorer and rebounder!

And Player of the Year...  ooh, wait a minute, Jones was robbed!!!!
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 11, 2012, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 11, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
Memphis, no doubt. Creighton was only off by 1 line in my estimation, but the Tigers should have been a 5. They had the RPI, SOS, won their regular season and conference tournament, what else were they supposed to do?

I could see them in the Sweet 16 or further.

Buy their way into the Big East sooner!
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Norm on March 11, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
Was surprised ND got a 7 instead of a 6 or 5, but i guess that's not too far down.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: MUMac on March 11, 2012, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 11, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
Was surprised ND got a 7 instead of a 6 or 5, but i guess that's not too far down.
The Committee must have felt the same about ND as I.  Don't want to reopen that hoopin' debate, but they had a very favorable BE schedule.   
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Norm on March 11, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: MUMac on March 11, 2012, 07:42:07 PM
The Committee must have felt the same about ND as I.  Don't want to reopen that hoopin' debate, but they had a very favorable BE schedule.   
Yeah, they had a favorable schedule (both us and Syracuse at home), but finished tied for 3rd in Big East and had some good wins. Not trying to stir up the ND debate, just commenting on a team that got a lower seed than I expected.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: Benny B on March 11, 2012, 10:54:20 PM
Not the seed, but UK got hosed in their draw. A potential matchup with UCONN in the third round for the number one overall?!?  UCONN has the talent; it would really suck for UK if they decided to finally put it together.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 11, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
Memphis and Saint Louis both were screwed.  And they have to play each other.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: CTWarrior on March 12, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 11, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
Memphis and Saint Louis both were screwed.  And they have to play each other.

Reminds me of the year we played Michigan State in the first round when general consenus for both of us was 5 or 6 pre-bracket announcement.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: MUDPT on March 12, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 12, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Reminds me of the year we played Michigan State in the first round when general consenus for both of us was 5 or 6 pre-bracket announcement.

Wasn't that because of Jerel's hand injury?  We really got screwed then.  Reminds me of when Onauku went down for Cuse and he was "supposed" to come back every game of the tournament until they got bounced by Butler.  Now, Henson will be back for NC next week, no question.  We'll see if he plays.  Next time, MU shouldn't be so honest with the NCAA.
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 12, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 11, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
WVU a 10???... they had the BEast's leading scorer and rebounder!

WVU should have been at least a 2 or 3 seed...in the NIT. Hey-o!
Title: Re: Team in the NCAA Tournament who you think was hosed the most with their seed?
Post by: 5YearsatMU on March 12, 2012, 12:02:18 PM
Using the rank the committee gave and looking at the RPI, BPI and KenPom (an 'average' of the three), I come up with the following (these apply to RANK only - I've yet to add my columns for seeds):

Memphis - 20 spots worse than computer averages
Belmont - 17 spots
Saint Lous - 16 spots
Cal - 15 spots
Long Beach - 13 spots

MU comes in at +5.  Notre Dame at +20!


EDIT:

Memphis - Got 8 seed, computers say 3
Belmont - 14, 10
Saint Lous - 9, 5
Cal - 12, 8
Long Beach - 12, 10

MU: Got 3, computers say 4
Iona/BYU: 14, 12
Notre Dame: 7, 12

This is my own little spreadsheet I did this AM instead of doing my actual job, so accuracy/validity is . . . .who knows. 

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