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Title: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on March 09, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Anyone think they could jump us seeding wise?
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: MUMac on March 09, 2012, 07:55:01 PM
No.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 09, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Probably not...they have some really bad lossed.   But i suppose it's possible.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: chapman on March 09, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
Lunardi has them as an 8.  A 5 is the most they could hope for.  Their RPI still sucks (58 going into tonight) and won't improve enough to help their seeding.  Mick's got to stop screwing his team over with embarrassing non-conference scheduling.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: MUMac on March 09, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 09, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Probably not...they have some really bad lossed.   But i suppose it's possible.
No.  It is not possible.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: GOMU85 on March 09, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on March 09, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Anyone think they could jump us seeding wise?

YES
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: EnderWiggen on March 09, 2012, 08:17:57 PM
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 09, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
YES
NO
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on March 09, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
What was the year that Syracuse went from not being in the tournament, to winning the BET and getting like a 3 seed?

Anything is possible, unfortunately.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: MUMac on March 09, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: warrior07 on March 09, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
What was the year that Syracuse went from not being in the tournament, to winning the BET and getting like a 3 seed?

Anything is possible, unfortunately.
You mean '05/'06 when they got the 5 seed?
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: chapman on March 09, 2012, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: warrior07 on March 09, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
What was the year that Syracuse went from not being in the tournament, to winning the BET and getting like a 3 seed?

Anything is possible, unfortunately.

The McNamara team was a 5 seed.  Their BET path was as good or better then Cincy's would be if they win tomorrow.  They also had an RPI of 17.    
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: Scooter22 on March 09, 2012, 09:10:20 PM
No way.  Let's remember that the committee looks at the body of work, not just the conference tourneys.  I like Bob Knight's take: the conference tournaments are relatively worthless and only a source of revenue for the league.  Look at MU last night.... sure, we laid a bad egg to the hated Cardinals, but what did we really have to gain in that game?  We had no chance to move up a seed line, and very little chance of falling a seed line either. 

To me that's the reason that the double bye teams are now 13-12 (not counting today's result) in the Big East history.  What do they really have to play for?? 

Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: The Equalizer on March 10, 2012, 08:28:54 AM
Last year the committee rewarded UConn--tied for 9th place and a .500 conference record--with a 3 seed after winning the tournament championship.  

In 2006, the gave Syracuse--9th place with a 7-9 conference record--a #5 seed after winning the conference tournament.

Compare those teams to Cincy, which finished in 4th place with a 12-6 conference record.  

RPI is only one factor.  Nobody knows how the committee will weight it against the a Tournament Championship--but if past history is any guide, I wouldn't be surprised if they pass us.  
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 10, 2012, 08:38:06 AM
UConn's situation was a lot different than Cincy's this year. Cincy's non-conference schedule is dreadful and have some bad losses. UConn beat ranked teams like Kentucky, Michigan State and Texas last year. Also, UConn got some big wins in the BET, which Cincy has too, so that isn't a huge difference. UConn's RPI was also 14 while Cincy's is around 40. They are two different situations.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 10, 2012, 08:39:36 AM
Cincy will not pass us unless a meteor falls on the Al during today's practice session. Will not happen.
Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: MUMac on March 10, 2012, 08:54:11 AM
UConn was ranked #1 at one point last year as well.  They had a difficult middle stretch, some due to Kemba Walker being injured.  UConn had a much stronger SOS and RPI than Cincy.  Not a good comparison between the two.

Title: Re: If Cincy beats Cuse and goes on to win BET?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 10, 2012, 10:27:25 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 10, 2012, 08:28:54 AM
Last year the committee rewarded UConn--tied for 9th place and a .500 conference record--with a 3 seed after winning the tournament championship.  

In 2006, the gave Syracuse--9th place with a 7-9 conference record--a #5 seed after winning the conference tournament.

Compare those teams to Cincy, which finished in 4th place with a 12-6 conference record.  

RPI is only one factor.  Nobody knows how the committee will weight it against the a Tournament Championship--but if past history is any guide, I wouldn't be surprised if they pass us.  

Totally different. UCONN went undefeated in nonconference and I think they were ranked 1-3 going into big east play.
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