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Title: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 08, 2012, 08:06:22 PM
...that I'm tuning out basketball until sunday. Just an awful performance.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUfan12 on March 08, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
I will be shocked if they make it out of the first weekend.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:08:58 PM
This game don't mean stink. 'Cept expose the many, major shortcomings this team has gotten away with so often this season.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 08, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
Not projecting anything til I see a bracket. I was just hyped up for this tournament and they absolutely laid an egg.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 08, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
Absolutly gutless
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 08, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
Its not "gutless," its bad basketball. Cliches don't do it justice.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: mues05 on March 08, 2012, 08:11:36 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling!

I am willing to bet anyone that we don't turn the ball over 25 times again this season.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: JoBo2756 on March 08, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
ugh. Sucks.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
Good news is that the team plane should arrive at Mitchell around 1 am
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: brewcity77 on March 08, 2012, 08:14:34 PM
Completely squandered opportunity. We lost to an inferior team because we played like absolute morons. I'm sick right now. Sick, pissed, disgraced.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 79Warrior on March 08, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 08, 2012, 08:14:34 PM
Completely squandered opportunity. We lost to an inferior team because we played like absolute morons. I'm sick right now. Sick, pissed, disgraced.

I do not think they are inferior at all. Pitino is a great coach and they are a team I would not want to play again.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 08, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
Terrible game. Oh well...I'll take the 3 seed we were getting whether we won out or lost tonight. I feel like punching something, but in the big picture, not a huge deal. Just makes me a lot less excited to watch basketball for the next three days.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUMac on March 08, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 08, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
I do not think they are inferior at all. Pitino is a great coach and they are a team I would not want to play again.
Agreed.  They have a ton of talent.  Had some injury and consistency issues.  When they play well, they are damn good.  Picked higher than MU.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: chapman on March 08, 2012, 08:20:47 PM
I hope we use the extra time off to adapt to a normal style of basketball.  Cincy was just preparing with Big East play by engaging in the brawl with Xavier - cause it basically happens several times a game in the BE without a whistle.  We've reaped the benefits like every other team - hope we're ready for whistles to blow before bodies are all over the floor or we're going to be one of many BE teams to crap out early again.  And if it does happen again the conference better get its act together with the way they call games.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: ecompt on March 08, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
They have more good players than we do, and we needed them to play poorly; Instead we played horribly.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: StillWarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
I'm as ticked about not getting a shot to kick ND's butt as I am about losing this game. Frustrating.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 08, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 08, 2012, 08:06:22 PM
...that I'm tuning out basketball until sunday. Just an awful performance.
Amen, that was a large large turd
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: real chili 83 on March 08, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 08, 2012, 08:06:22 PM
...that I'm tuning out basketball until sunday. Just an awful performance.

Sultan.....come in off the ledge!    ;)
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 08, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
LOUD NOISES!!!!!
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: nyg on March 08, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
Little disgusted, but MU has had two bad games in the last three.  

I just wanted to see a win because of the potential matchup with ND or USF and continue to watch this team play.

I truly believe next year will be a rough one and more disgusting nights like this will occur.  MU has replaced the three Amigos, Lazar, and Butler in the past.  But without DJO and Crowder this team is going to have some serious issues next year.  Serious issues.  

I just wanted to continue watching this years squad and I hope they get a good seed and matchup on Sunday.  
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Nukem2 on March 08, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 08, 2012, 08:06:22 PM
...that I'm tuning out basketball until sunday. Just an awful performance.
I'm disgusted with you.  Its one game.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUMac on March 08, 2012, 08:27:50 PM
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
I'm as ticked about not getting a shot to kick ND's butt as I am about losing this game. Frustrating.
Injury to insult was listening to ND's fight song while Siva was being interviewed.  Yuck.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 08, 2012, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
I'm as ticked about not getting a shot to kick ND's butt as I am about losing this game. Frustrating.

Wrote that earlier today.

Tomorrow night was set up well for MU regardless of opponent. All too often its that first game that's the biggest hurdle.

I was banking on a little rust but I think the miracle comebacks numbered too many during the season to the point where this team just doesn't pop out of the gate because they truly feel they can erase any deficit.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Ari Gold on March 08, 2012, 08:33:23 PM
looking forward to be the 4 seed upset by the 13
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 08, 2012, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: mues05 on March 08, 2012, 08:11:36 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling!

I am willing to bet anyone that we don't turn the ball over 25 times again this season.

But maybe 26?
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: muhoops1 on March 08, 2012, 08:40:57 PM
Meetings on the left coast.  Didn't see it, glad about that.  No hoops this wknd.  Fudge.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MountainCreekHouse on March 08, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
We need to man up when we aren't in our precious Bradley Center.  Get real MU.  Man the f#ck up and play above your competition for once, not right at the level of whoever we happen to be playing.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 08, 2012, 08:45:06 PM
we didn't come near louisville"s effort tonight. Stupid. panic basketball
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
'Bout as worthwhile as saving yourself for marriage.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUFC9295 on March 08, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
What was the line?  was Junior shaving points?
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: El Duderino on March 09, 2012, 01:24:34 AM
Quote from: MUMac on March 08, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
Agreed.  They have a ton of talent.  Had some injury and consistency issues.  When they play well, they are damn good.  Picked higher than MU.

Yea, if Marquette played Louisville say 10 times on a neutral court, my guess is the series would finish in some form of 5-5 or 6-4 for one of the two teams.

Unlike the elite Kentucky, N.Carolina, Kansas, Syracuse type of teams that have such of a talent advantage over nearly each team they face which allows them to win while still having an off game, a team like Marquette simply doesn't have the talent to overwhelm other good teams if they have an off night.

The turnovers tonight don't really scare me about the upcoming big dance, i thought it was more just one of those bad nights. The rebounding though is a major concern for me. That has been our biggest weakness all season and once the NCAA Tournament starts, if any team allows a ton of offensive rebounds, it can be the key reason behind ending the season.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Wade for President on March 09, 2012, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: MUMac on March 08, 2012, 08:27:50 PM
Injury to insult was listening to ND's fight song while Siva was being interviewed.  Yuck.

Why in the hell we're you still watching?!?
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 09, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
BTW people shouldn't judge my comments that I am jumping off the bandwagon or that the sky is falling. I was limiting my comments to last nights game. We can still make a deep run with the right draw.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 09, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Dunno about that - I'm with El Dud, the boards can kill us.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: nyg on March 09, 2012, 06:24:24 AM
After watching the ND/USF game, I still feel the same.  Yuck....

There is no way on the planet that we would lose to either of those teams on a neutral court. 
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: StillWarriors on March 09, 2012, 07:30:25 AM
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2012, 06:24:24 AM
After watching the ND/USF game, I still feel the same.  Yuck....

There is no way on the planet that we would lose to either of those teams on a neutral court.  

I had the same thought. Although, if we played like we did last night we'd probably lose to them as well.

The rebounding is a legit concern. Instead of teams leaving the offensive glass to rush back on D, I would imagine we'd see more of Pitino's approach in preventing our break by pounding the boards.

Such a frustrating out of sorts effort. Truly looked to me like a team that lost its edge with all the hype about a possible Final Four run, POY etc...This team is darn good with an edge, but very ordinary and undersized when playing without one. Kudos to Louisville, they absolutely whipped us.

Thought we had turned the corner until Junior's incomprehensible 3 when we cut the lead to one.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUMac on March 09, 2012, 07:47:02 AM
Quote from: Wade for President on March 09, 2012, 04:40:57 AM
Why in the hell we're you still watching?!?
Good question.  I am usually one of the people that get irritated when drivers rubber neck to see a car wreck ... and then I became one of them.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Goose on March 09, 2012, 07:51:17 AM
Junior played like an Auburn kid last night.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2012, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 09, 2012, 07:51:17 AM
Junior played like an Auburn kid last night.

I'm not a Jr basher, but he wasn't point shaving, it was more like point beheading.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Goose on March 09, 2012, 07:55:51 AM
Junior did not have his head in the game. Maybe he was out to 4am the night before.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: hairy worthen on March 09, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2012, 07:53:20 AM
I'm not a Jr basher, but he wasn't point shaving, it was more like point beheading.

The worst point of the game for Marquette, was in the first half after they came back to cut it to 1 and had the ball to take the lead. Jr takes a rushed nba three, misses, and louisville come right back down to make a three sparking a run of their own that has them up by 9 again. That to me was the turning point of the game, we had them reeling and one bone headed shot turned it around.

I am not bashing Jr. because I generaly like his play, but it looked like he was trying to impress a girlfreind or scout last night instead of trying to win a game. Trying to do too much on his own, thats not his game.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: slingkong on March 09, 2012, 08:03:15 AM
Whatever that was that I just watched was made all the worse by, at the same time, going through mortgage application paperwork and answering annoying emails about discovery motions. I snapped at my wife when she got home, one of my Newfoundlands drooled on the mortgage application and my phone, and the only beer in the house was Corona Light.  Not a good night.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: MUMac on March 09, 2012, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 09, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
The worst point of the game for Marquette, was in the first half after they came back to cut it to 1 and had the ball to take the lead. Jr takes a rushed nba three, misses, and louisville come right back down to make a three sparking a run of their own that has them up by 9 again. That to me was the turning point of the game, we had them reeling and one bone headed shot turned it around.

I am not bashing Jr. because I generaly like his play, but it looked like he was trying to impress a girlfreind or scout last night instead of trying to win a game. Trying to do too much on his own, thats not his game.

That was the play that bothered me the most.  Not just the disitance, but the time on the shot clock and the fact he was going to his right and had to turn back to his left on a pull up.  

The shot was followed closely, though, by the ill advised 3 by Jamil Wilson in the 2nd half when MU cut it to 4 and the decision by Derrick Wilson to take it himself on a 3 on 2 break after a steal off the press in the 2nd half.  All 3 plays killed the momentum MU had.  

I wanted to see, though, how UL would respond to MU in the lead.  How MU would respond.  Especially in light of the game in Milwaukee.  Could have been a sphincter tightener for Louisville.  Then Junior tried to emulate DJO.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: brewcity77 on March 09, 2012, 08:13:53 AM
Quote from: slingkong on March 09, 2012, 08:03:15 AMWhatever that was that I just watched was made all the worse by, at the same time, going through mortgage application paperwork and answering annoying emails about discovery motions. I snapped at my wife when she got home, one of my Newfoundlands drooled on the mortgage application and my phone, and the only beer in the house was Corona Light.  Not a good night.

As soon as the game ended, I told the fiancee I was going upstairs to read. I ended up on my phone looking at MU message boards until I went to bed, but I didn't want to be around anyone. I don't think I'll be over this one until we win our first round game.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: Goose on March 09, 2012, 08:18:38 AM
Brew
Get over it quickly. It was ugly game and it sucked, but in big picture it should not mean much. They played  stupid last night and that happens. Louisville needed more and they played like they needed it more. My opinion for upcoming weeks remains very positive.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 09, 2012, 08:21:01 AM
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 08, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
I'm as ticked about not getting a shot to kick ND's butt as I am about losing this game. Frustrating.
My thoughts exactly. Win last night and we are basically in the finals Saturday IMO. Really irks me.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 79Warrior on March 09, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: nyg on March 08, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
Little disgusted, but MU has had two bad games in the last three.  

I just wanted to see a win because of the potential matchup with ND or USF and continue to watch this team play.

I truly believe next year will be a rough one and more disgusting nights like this will occur.  MU has replaced the three Amigos, Lazar, and Butler in the past.  But without DJO and Crowder this team is going to have some serious issues next year.  Serious issues.  

I just wanted to continue watching this years squad and I hope they get a good seed and matchup on Sunday.  

So are you saying Jamil Jones and Juan Anderson are not going to light it up next year?
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: mosarsour on March 09, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: mues05 on March 08, 2012, 08:11:36 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling!

I am willing to bet anyone that we don't turn the ball over 25 times again this season.

This!

I'm disgusted too. By everyone's reactions to last night's game. Get over it. We laid an egg. No big deal. It's only the conference tournament. Not the dance.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: texaswarrior74 on March 09, 2012, 11:25:07 AM
^^  But if we continue to play like we have two of the last three times, our run in the dance will be very short.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: brewcity77 on March 09, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 09, 2012, 08:18:38 AMBrew
Get over it quickly. It was ugly game and it sucked, but in big picture it should not mean much. They played  stupid last night and that happens. Louisville needed more and they played like they needed it more. My opinion for upcoming weeks remains very positive.

Because I don't expect a Final Four or NC, last night was the big picture.

Big East crown > Elite Eight or less.

Big East crown ≈ Final Four appearance
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: klyrish on March 09, 2012, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 09, 2012, 07:51:17 AM
Junior played like an Auburn kid last night.
As pissed, embarrassed and saddened as I am right now about last night, this comment totally made my morning. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: nyg on March 09, 2012, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 09, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
So are you saying Jamil Jones and Juan Anderson are not going to light it up next year?

To put it bluntly with Jones.  No.  He has been in the system for two years now and has shown nothing, especially since he was labeled as a sharp shooter from the outside.  Hasn't even come close to happening and since Gardner has returned he is back on bench cheerleading.  Love the kid's work ethic based upon a previous article on him, I am sure he is a great teamate, but he will be a few minutes a game sub.  

Anderson gets a pass since he is a freshman and has the "lost in the headlights" during his tenure on the floor.  You can see his ability, but another year of seasoning and conditioning may do wonders.

MU loses 50% of its offense next year plus the senior leadership.  Yes, Gardner and J. Wilson will make up for some of those points and even Mayo, who has digressed since December should average abit more.  But, someone else will really have to contribute in a big way.  I hope T.J. Taylor is the real deal and can provide hope immediately.  
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2012, 11:51:13 AM
Jones showed some flashes earlier on when Gardner was out. He may just need playing time to develop some confidence. Maybe DJO and Crowder leaving will be great for him. Hopefully by having no choice but to play him early on, it allows him to get comfortable and put together games like we hoped for when he committed. I like Jones and am hoping he's someone who can breakout next year.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 09, 2012, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2012, 11:51:13 AM
Jones showed some flashes earlier on when Gardner was out. He may just need playing time to develop some confidence. Maybe DJO and Crowder leaving will be great for him. Hopefully by having no choice but to play him early on, it allows him to get comfortable and put together games like we hoped for when he committed. I like Jones and am hoping he's someone who can breakout next year.


He showed flashes in one game.  Actually more like two minutes in one game when he hit back to back threes against Cincinnati.  Outside of that, there has been nothing.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
I thought he did some good things in the Notre Dame game as well. He missed a fair number of bunnies, but he was aggressive and that's not something we've seen a lot from him. I'm a bit of an optimist when it comes to our players, so definitely understand the other point of view and that I am looking through rose-colored glasses. It just seems he has a lot of talent to me and if he can just get comfortable, he can put it together.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: CTWarrior on March 09, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
It just seems Jones has a lot of talent to me and if he can just get comfortable, he can put it together.

I don't know how many times (it's a lot) that I've seen that kid swoop in and JUST miss grabbing a rebound or stealing the ball.  He's just inches away from being pretty good.  I hope he clicks but I'm starting to wonder.  Unfortunately, he doesn't look like the sharpshooter he was billed as coming out of HS.  He's more than a few inches away from being that.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: GGGG on March 09, 2012, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
I thought he did some good things in the Notre Dame game as well. He missed a fair number of bunnies, but he was aggressive and that's not something we've seen a lot from him. I'm a bit of an optimist when it comes to our players, so definitely understand the other point of view and that I am looking through rose-colored glasses. It just seems he has a lot of talent to me and if he can just get comfortable, he can put it together.


The thing that bothers me is that he had that game...then Cincy...and then a whole lot of nothing.  Against WVU, when he played 15 minutes due to the suspensions, he had no points and one rebound.
Title: Re: I'm so disgusted...
Post by: 79Warrior on March 09, 2012, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2012, 11:47:12 AM
To put it bluntly with Jones.  No.  He has been in the system for two years now and has shown nothing, especially since he was labeled as a sharp shooter from the outside.  Hasn't even come close to happening and since Gardner has returned he is back on bench cheerleading.  Love the kid's work ethic based upon a previous article on him, I am sure he is a great teamate, but he will be a few minutes a game sub.  

Anderson gets a pass since he is a freshman and has the "lost in the headlights" during his tenure on the floor.  You can see his ability, but another year of seasoning and conditioning may do wonders.

MU loses 50% of its offense next year plus the senior leadership.  Yes, Gardner and J. Wilson will make up for some of those points and even Mayo, who has digressed since December should average abit more.  But, someone else will really have to contribute in a big way.  I hope T.J. Taylor is the real deal and can provide hope immediately.  

I happen to agree with you. We lose a tremendous amount of offense after this season. Depending on incoming Freshmen is usually not the answer and certainly has not been the case recently at MU. That is why losing yesterday hurts because next year is most def a rebuilding year.
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