I hate to be a buzzkill, but here it goes. . . . .
Although Crowder deserves to be the Big East POY, him being the only unanimous choice to the First Team doesn't lock it up.
This can simply mean that all 15 other Big East coaches agree that Crowder is the 2nd - 6th best player in the conference.
In fact, this isn't the first time that a Marquette player was a unanimous First Team Big East. . . .
Steve Novak was unanimous in 2005-2006 along with Novas' Allen Ray and Randy Foye and Uconn's Rudy Gay
The other players selected to the Big East first team were: Mike Gansey and Kevin Pittsnogle of WVU, Eric Hicks of Cincy, Chris Quinn of Notre Dame, Aaron Gray of Pitt, Quincy Douby of Rutgers and Gerry McNamara of Syracuse (A 11 player All Conference team still strikes me as ridiculous)
Novak was clearly not one of the 4 best players in the conference that year. . . but every coach agreed that he was without a doubt a top 11 player.
If Jae doesn't win, some will struggle with the only unanimous not being POY, I just wanted to point out that being a unanimous top-6 player is different then being selected the number 1 player.
Overall, I hope this is a moot point and Jae picks up his hardware.
Thank you for the Phil 50 refresher...
It does help though that Kevin Jones wasn't an unanimous first rounder, so at least one coach (possibly more) feel that he isn't one of the top six players in the conference.
I think ur argument holds more water and potential with the old 11 man team than it does today
Selfishly I hope he doesn't win it... They will announce it tomorrow, if he doesn't win I expect him to be the first player ever to average 30 and 15 for the Big East Tournament and MU's first BEast championship belt.
This falls in line with the "a loss helps us re-focus" theory which I don't believe in, but I believe Jae will take it personal and make his legacy at the Garden.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 05, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
Selfishly I hope he doesn't win it...
The perfect scenario is that he wins the award and then there is some complaining in the press that Jones was robbed. That way he gets the well-deserved award plus keeps his "I'll show them" motivation.
Not sure stuff like this matters to this team, but they did lay an egg against Cincinnati after all of the postive press following the game at West Virginia, so you never know. Any edge you can get, I suppose.
Quote from: DJO = JunkYardDog on March 04, 2012, 09:27:37 PM
Steve Novak was unanimous in 2005-2006 along with Novas' Allen Ray and Randy Foye and Uconn's Rudy Gay. The other players selected to the Big East first team were: Mike Gansey and Kevin Pittsnogle of WVU, Eric Hicks of Cincy, Chris Quinn of Notre Dame, Aaron Gray of Pitt, Quincy Douby of Rutgers and Gerry McNamara of Syracuse.
My Google-fu is failing me ... who won POY that year?
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on March 05, 2012, 08:19:59 AM
My Google-fu is failing me ... who won POY that year?
Ben Hansbrough....the only unanimous first team selection.
oops...thought you said last year.
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on March 05, 2012, 08:19:59 AM
My Google-fu is failing me ... who won POY that year?
Randy Foye
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on March 05, 2012, 08:19:59 AM
My Google-fu is failing me ... who won POY that year?
05-06 winner was Randy Foye.
Complete list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year)
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 05, 2012, 08:34:12 AM
05-06 winner was Randy Foye.
Complete list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year)
Was just looking at that. I enjoyed that in back to back years Charles Smith won, and it was 2 different guys.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 05, 2012, 08:34:12 AM
05-06 winner was Randy Foye.
Complete list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year)
Looking at that and past winners do not have high success in the NBA; not saying Crowder won't, just pointing it out.
Quote from: Warriors10 on March 05, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Looking at that and past winners do not have high success in the NBA; not saying Crowder won't, just pointing it out.
A quarter or so of them aren't too shabby:
Patrick Ewing (x2), Chris Mullen (x3), Alonzo Mourning, Ray Allen, Rip Hamilion (x2), Caron Butler
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 05, 2012, 09:57:30 AM
A quarter or so of them aren't too shabby:
Patrick Ewing (x2), Chris Mullen (x3), Alonzo Mourning, Ray Allen, Rip Hamilion (x2), Caron Butler
I meant since Marquette joined.
Quote from: Warriors10 on March 05, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Looking at that and past winners do not have high success in the NBA; not saying Crowder won't, just pointing it out.
Every player since MU joined, other than Hansbrough (it was a joke that he won) is currently in the NBA. There might not be a lot of NBA star power but those guys are having solid NBA careers. I'm about the same height and weight as Randy Foye. I'd happily take his career (and earnings) over mine ;)
I'd be interested to see the list of guys who finished in the top 3 each year.
I thought Scottie Reynolds won a couple of years ago, and then went on to be the only BEast POY to not get drafted. Or, something like that, right?
Quote from: mug644 on March 05, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
I thought Scottie Reynolds won a couple of years ago, and then went on to be the only BEast POY to not get drafted. Or, something like that, right?
He was a first team All-American but didn't get drafted.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 05, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
He was a first team All-American but didn't get drafted.
Right. I know it was something odd. He also went on to lead Villanova's self-destruction with a loss in the opening round. (I hope I'd right on this one!)
When is POY announced?
Thanks.
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 05, 2012, 02:11:35 PM
When is POY announced?
Thanks.
Tomorrow before the night session games at the BET.
Jae is going to get it and well deserved. In the bank
Zagoria cited league sources confirm jae is poy. Twitter tracker.
Great! Hope its real. And that means he'll likely get taken in the first round.
I really would love to see him go in round one, at 30 to be very specific. ;D
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 05, 2012, 05:09:47 PM
Zagoria cited league sources confirm jae is poy. Twitter tracker.
If you are going to make a post like this, you need to do it right:
TWITTER TRACKER:Zagoria cited League sources confirm jae is poy.
We really need a TWITTER TRACKER on the left side of this board! ;)
I was on a blackberry, wasn't possible.
Quote from: MUMac on March 05, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
If you are going to make a post like this, you need to do it right:
TWITTER TRACKER:
Zagoria cited League sources confirm jae is poy.
We really need a TWITTER TRACKER on the left side of this board! ;)
Seconded!!!!
Even TENLUND'S blog has one!
(Much Bigger) SHEEEEEEESH!
Do the coaches get to vote for their own players for first, second teams big east? If not, how can a player be a unaminous pick since their coach had to pick someone else?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2012, 06:46:48 AM
Do the coaches get to vote for their own players for first, second teams big east? If not, how can a player be a unaminous pick since their coach had to pick someone else?
Maybe unanimous means 15/15 votes. Considering that is the most any one player could get.
Thanks, makes sense.