I was watching Garnder closely and he still limps around. I am not sure if it is a mental thing but I hope he didn't come back before he is ready.
Healthy enough to be effective... but I am definitely glad we aren't playing until Thursday.
Yeah, but even when he was 100%, he still limped around. I'm convinced he's just got the gangsta limp going on. Besides, if he can put up 8/8 in 15 minutes, that's valuable whether he's 100% or not.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Yeah, but even when he was 100%, he still limped around. I'm convinced he's just got the gangsta limp going on. Besides, if he can put up 8/8 in 15 minutes, that's valuable whether he's 100% or not.
No way Davante is 100%. He was dragging that leg behind him.
Like I said the cat is high maintenance and a drama queen.
BrewCity is right. Davante always walked with a limp around campus even when he wasnt hurt. Granted I dont think hes 100% but I dont think its anything too pressing.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Yeah, but even when he was 100%, he still limped around. I'm convinced he's just got the gangsta limp going on. Besides, if he can put up 8/8 in 15 minutes, that's valuable whether he's 100% or not.
We've developed another persona. We need Davante for a change of pace now (a very effective change of pace). If we get 15 minutes like this every game, it is golden.
He is clearly not 100%, but he's good enough to play. He was a big factor in the game yesterday. I don't see him getting a whole lot more than 15 minutes in any game from here on out. But, he was still very effective yesterday. Super pumped to have him back.
Quote from: ringout on March 04, 2012, 03:36:39 PMWe've developed another persona. We need Davante for a change of pace now (a very effective change of pace). If we get 15 minutes like this every game, it is golden.
Agree 110%. I've felt all season long that DG was at his best when he was playing 15-20 minutes. Even when he put up some of those monster numbers, I'm not sure he was as efficient as he would be in limited minutes.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 04, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
Like I said the cat is high maintenance and a drama queen.
I be chillen doe
I wonder if some of it was mental. He might not have been sure how far he could push it or was being cautious. I'm sure it is still bugging him, but hopefully some of it is mental and getting back on the floor will help.
He's one player who can contribute even if he can't run or jump.
He's definitely still hurt. He couldn't even get up and down the floor yesterday. G-Town had from 4-on-5 opportunities with Gardner limping back.
I'm all for 10-15 minutes of sheer offensive productivity, but we will need him for more than that in the tournament (the Big One) if we want to stack up well against some of the big guys. He's got to get healthy fast (actually was kind of disappointed with the extent of his limp yesterday... he's had 6 weeks off :().
Do we sit him for the Big East Tournament? Based on his continued limp after 6 weeks off, would that even matter? I dunno.
It was good to see him back, but sad that he was so obviously still injured... and that talk about the "gangster" walk... I don't buy it. Gangster's don't get burned up and down the court like that.
Quote from: JoBo2756 on March 04, 2012, 04:38:24 PM
He's got to get healthy fast (actually was kind of disappointed with the extent of his limp yesterday... he's had 6 weeks off :().
Yea, because he can control how fast his body heals.
Quote from: JoBo2756 on March 04, 2012, 04:38:24 PM
Gangster's don't get burned up and down the court like that.
How many times did his man score? I am not being a smart ass, but just asking because I don't remember watching and thinking he was getting beat every play.
Couldn't tell you exactly how many points his man scored and it would be a tough question to answer as Buzz was pulling Davante in and out quite frequently. What i'm saying is that I watched him run up and down the court with his leg almost completely extended, like when you see a guy with a full leg cast on (ok maybe not that bad but you get the point).
He's still injured is my point and we are going to need as much as possible from him.
The best thing for it may have been getting into the game. He now gets four days to rest and/or get some practice, depending on how it feels. He's not going to be asked to go more than 15 or so, the only concern is if it's feeling better each day - we'll see if he can keep going if we advance to Friday or Saturday.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 04, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
I wonder if some of it was mental. He might not have been sure how far he could push it or was being cautious. I'm sure it is still bugging him, but hopefully some of it is mental and getting back on the floor will help.
Definitely possible. I'm not sure he's ever been hurt before, and there were times when both he and Buzz were frustrated with the recovery. Makes you think just not being used to being injured could play a role in it. The good thing is he wasn't tentative in the way he played the game at all.
The fact that he didn't stiffen up over halftime (to the point he could no longer go) has me thinking optimistically.
/no homo?
gardner really helped yesterday whenever GT went to zone. he's able to post, recieve the ball and make a play, whether it be dishing to a shooter/cutter, taking his own shot, or getting an O Reb.
even if only for 10-15 minutes, he can limit what defenses can do against us...
Gardner had eight rebounds yesturday and I am not sure he got off the ground for any of them. His girth and hands make him good even if he cannot jump.
Quote from: JoBo2756 on March 04, 2012, 04:38:24 PM
He's definitely still hurt. He couldn't even get up and down the floor yesterday. G-Town had from 4-on-5 opportunities with Gardner limping back.
I'm all for 10-15 minutes of sheer offensive productivity, but we will need him for more than that in the tournament (the Big One) if we want to stack up well against some of the big guys. He's got to get healthy fast (actually was kind of disappointed with the extent of his limp yesterday... he's had 6 weeks off :().
Do we sit him for the Big East Tournament? Based on his continued limp after 6 weeks off, would that even matter? I dunno.
It was good to see him back, but sad that he was so obviously still injured... and that talk about the "gangster" walk... I don't buy it. Gangster's don't get burned up and down the court like that.
If he can play and wants to play and if medical personnel do not believe he will do any further harm, you play him Thursday against Ville. If victorious, you re-evaluate Friday morning. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Obviously, most important is the real tourney.
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on March 04, 2012, 05:16:31 PM
The fact that he didn't stiffen up over halftime (to the point he could no longer go) has me thinking optimistically.
/no homo?
/no homo. ;D
Since when is not stiffening up, a good thing?
Quote from: bilsu on March 04, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
Gardner had eight rebounds yesturday and I am not sure he got off the ground for any of them. His girth and hands make him good even if he cannot jump.
position also.
Quote from: ringout on March 04, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
position also.
Absolutely. On many, if not most, of the rebounds Davante got, the ball came to him, and not the other way around. Now maybe he was just the luckiest guy on the floor, but I would prefer to think that after the shots were released, he dragged himself into the spot where he thought the ball was going to wind up, and he was right.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 04, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
Absolutely. On many, if not most, of the rebounds Davante got, the ball came to him, and not the other way around. Now maybe he was just the luckiest guy on the floor, but I would prefer to think that after the shots were released, he dragged himself into the spot where he thought the ball was going to wind up, and he was right.
Yeah, but is that a pic of you in your avatar or whatever dealy? holla
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 04, 2012, 08:48:08 PM
Yeah, but is that a pic of you in your avatar or whatever dealy? holla
Oh, Jay Bee, you little rascal, you!
That is a picture of a '70's-era cheerleader I found online. I am MUCH younger -- class of '84.
So, you're not Gail?
Good call!
Gail Pudvan, so hot wanted to touch her heine.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 04, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
I was watching Garnder closely and he still limps around. I am not sure if it is a mental thing but I hope he didn't come back before he is ready.
Erick ur powers of observation are amazing!!!
Shakes head
Quote from: ringout on March 05, 2012, 01:34:37 PM
Then you gotta be Trish the Dish.
She was cute..... :D
Anyone that has ever had a severly sprained knee can appreciate the pain and length of time it takes to recover. I would say a sever knee sprain that does not involve torn ligaments takes at least 6 weeks to get back to be able to run. Prolly 8-10 weeks for full flexion and pain free. We are not talking about a sprained finger or even ankle here. Anyone that saw Devante's huge limp and grimacing can know appreciate the severity of a sprained knee.
It would appear most posters are/were clueless to the severity and length of time it takes to come back from this type of injury. My guess is devante was on crutches and could barely walk if at all on Sunday.
Tweet from Gardner not too long ago:
Davante' Gardner @iGetBuckets_54
My knee feel to good right now, that therapy is something good lol
He may be at 80% most of the time, or 65% getting up and down the court, but he sure looked 100% when he had the ball near the hoop. The rebound turn around fadaway 2 was beautiful (could have been better if he could/did use his left hand as it was naturally a left handed shot). He did seem really gassed at times.
I was amazed and happy that he looked thin for him. If anything he lost weight since the injury, or at least didn't gain any.
I would hope that any player with a leg injury is spending time swimming as rehab. Keeps the upper body in shape, burns lots of calories and is fantastic for the wind.