http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/27/Hoop.Thoughts/
Underappreciated Marquette earning its place among hoops elite
Story Highlights
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The video quickly went viral.
A few minutes after his team's one-point win at West Virginia Friday night, Marquette coach Buzz Williams waltzed to a few bars of John Denver's "Country Road" as he strolled across the court. While it appeared that Williams was taunting the Mountaineers' student section, he was merely savoring a beautiful moment as he made his way to the broadcast table for a postgame interview. When Williams realized the West Virginia students were angry, he acknowledged his mistake on the air -- "That's my fault," he said as he put on his headset -- and apologized profusely during his postgame news conference.
Williams was still awash with contrition when I spoke with him by telephone Sunday afternoon. "Please write this," he urged. "It was an emotional response that was very unprofessional. I was not trying to do anything disrespectful. It's not who I am and I wish I hadn't done it. It's unfortunate, and I'm sorry."
Williams' apology is classy, but what's really unfortunate is the way those few seconds overshadowed what had transpired during the two hours that preceded them. Marquette, which began the season undersized as usual, played on Friday night without its two best big men. Chris Otule, a 6-foot-11 junior center, suffered a season-ending knee injury on Dec. 6, and Davante Gardner, a 6-8 sophomore forward, was sidelined because of a sprained knee. The Golden Eagles also played the first half sans three starters, who were being punished for violating team rules. A fourth player sat out the second half for the same reason. Moreover, the Eagles were on the road and facing a good team that desperately needed to boost its NCAA tournament hopes. And did I mention they were down by 15 points with 18 minutes to play?
With all of that going against them, the Golden Eagles still scraped out a one-point win. That, however, was not the only thing that inspired their coach's awkward two-step. Williams was likewise moved by the quiet, intimate words that senior guard Jae Crowder whispered into his ear after the final horn. "He hugged me and said, 'Coach, I love you. I'm so thankful you're here. I'll fight for you anywhere, anytime,'" Williams said. "I put my head in his chest and I was crying. It's why I got so emotional and danced. I mean, that's what all this is supposed to be about."
It's hard to find a more unlikely -- and more unnoticed -- story in college basketball this season than Marquette. The Golden Eagles are alone in second place in the Big East with a 13-3 record (24-5 overall), and their No. 8 ranking in this week's AP poll. Yet, they seem to be generating very little, well, buzz. Not that it's a problem. Beginning with the frenetic, bald, energetic, lousy dancer who leads the charge from the sidelines, this is a group of folks who have long been overachieving while being overlooked.
A perfect example is Crowder, the team's leading rebounder (7.6), second-leading scorer (17.4) and one of the most versatile defenders in the country. A 6-6 senior from Villa Rica, Ga., Crowder was, by his own admission, an overweight teenager who didn't get serious about basketball until he was a junior in high school. He was not recruited by a single college during his senior season. After graduating, Crowder played one year at South Georgia Tech Junior College in Americus, Ga., but after helping that school make its first appearance in the junior college national championships, Crowder learned that the college was not accredited. That forced him to transfer to Howard College in Big Spring, Texas, where he was eventually voted the NJCAA Player of the Year while leading that school to its first-ever national title.
At the start of Crowder's sophomore season, Howard's coach, who had met Buzz Williams some two decades before, reached out to him and told Buzz that he should recruit Crowder. Williams flew down for a game, but Crowder only played nine minutes because of foul trouble. When Crowder's coach apologized to Williams afterward, Williams told him there was no need. "I told the coach that was the absolute best game I could have come to," Williams said. "Jae was standing on the sideline the whole game waving a towel like he was a cheerleader. He was the first guy to half-court greeting the guys when they were on the way to the huddle. I watched his body language the entire time. It was obvious he was a great teammate."
At least Williams saw Crowder play those nine minutes. That's nine more than he saw of his current leading scorer, 6-2 senior guard Darius Johnson-Odom. A native of Raleigh, N.C., Johnson-Odom was a decent high school player, but his recruitment was cut short by a procedural error which prevented the NCAA's academic clearinghouse from declaring him eligible. That forced Johnson-Odom to spend one year in prep school and another at Hutchinson (Ks.) Community College, where he became a juco All-American. Now Johnson-Odom is on pace to be one of the top-10 scorers in Marquette history, even though he will only have played there for three seasons. Said Williams of his two leading scorers, "I don't think there's any way that anybody could have predicted their path from where they were in high school to where they are now."
Then again, Marquette is the place where a guy named Dwyane Wade went from being uninvited to either the Nike or adidas camps the summer before his senior year of high school to one of the top-10 players in the NBA. It's the place where a guy named Jimmy Butler went from being the 82nd-ranked high school player in the state of Texas to the first round of the NBA draft. Ironically, the only player currently on Marquette's roster who was a decorated high school player, 6-4 sophomore guard Vander Blue, has been deemed by many as a disappointment. Blue hasn't been nearly the scorer he was in high school -- he is making just 25.9 percent of his three-point attempts this season -- but he has endeared himself to his coach by grabbing 4.4 rebounds per game.
Williams knows that you need have a lot of talent to become a top-10 team. Still, when he hears his guys characterized as being "tough" and "scrappy," it is, he says, "the highest compliment that can be paid." Buzz explains: "A lot of guys aren't anointed as recruits, but that doesn't mean they're not as good or better than guys who are. I don't know that you can make a living based completely on those guys, but you do have to have a roster of players who have a lot of heart and who understand what your program is all about."
If the players had any doubt as to what the program is about, Williams erased it by issuing those suspensions for the West Virginia game. Williams would not disclose what they did to merit the punishment, other than to tell me that "it wasn't anything awful. They're all good kids. They broke a team policy, and that's the end of it." Moving forward, the larger concern is Gardner, who was originally projected to be out four weeks but is healing slowly. Gardner still hasn't gone through a full practice, and Williams doesn't anticipate that he will be ready in time for Wednesday's game at Cincinnati.
Still, when a team enters the final week of February ranked in the top-10, its fans usually expect it to have a realistic chance to make the Final Four. But can a team get there when the only player on its roster that is taller than 6-7 hasn't played in over a month? "I honestly don't know what to expect," Williams said. "All I know is we better be the hardest-playing team we can be and be fundamentally sound on every possession. If we do that, then we'll just add 'em up at the end and see where we're at."
It has taken longer than it should have, but Marquette has earned its place on center stage the hard way. Time to dance.
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Starting to get the feeling that we don't see the real Davante Gardner until next year.
damnit seth davis. you just told mick cronin that Gardner probably isn't playing. how dare you.
Great article, thanks for sharing :)
Wow, what an article. Loved hearing the comments Crowder said to Buzz on Friday Night. Makes me even more proud of this team and the staff, especially Buzz!
Quote from: MUMac on February 27, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Wow, what an article. Loved hearing the comments Crowder said to Buzz on Friday Night. Makes me even more proud of this team and the staff, especially Buzz!
Agreed.
Has anyone been able to find a pic online of the Jae-Buzz hug? That was my favorite part of the game!
From http://painttouches.com/
(http://painttouches.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sz0sa.jpg)
Not to turn this into a B*tching match, but the article above is what i mean...
The article above gives us knowledge that Gardner still hasn't made it through a full practice. I will take this as a lot more accredited (with direct quotes from Buzz)than somebody posting, "Gardner's jersey is packed" or "Garder may play, but we're not sure yet" No wonder BD is 100% right on his information, nothing is conclusive, it's just speculation like the rest of us. Didn't BD say that Garder is a "90%" go for Cincy and 99% for G-town? Guess that 10 and 1 % will always leave reason for, "I have always been 100% right"
Quote from: MUMac on February 27, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Wow, what an article. Loved hearing the comments Crowder said to Buzz on Friday Night. Makes me even more proud of this team and the staff, especially Buzz!
You can't ask for a better recruitment tool....except for an NCAA Championship!
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Not to turn this into a B*tching match, but the article above is what i mean I'm going to turn this into a B*tching match ...
Fixed.
Fixed.
Great insight.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Not to turn this into a B*tching match, but the article above is what i mean...
The article above gives us knowledge that Gardner still hasn't made it through a full practice. I will take this as a lot more accredited (with direct quotes from Buzz)than somebody posting, "Gardner's jersey is packed" or "Garder may play, but we're not sure yet" No wonder BD is 100% right on his information, nothing is conclusive, it's just speculation like the rest of us. Didn't BD say that Garder is a "90%" go for Cincy and 99% for G-town? Guess that 10 and 1 % will always leave reason for, "I have always been 100% right"
He also said DG hasn't been cleared by the medical staff. If he hasn't been cleared, he would be monitored during practice and limited by the medical staff. How is that in conflict and why start a b!tching session over it? Give it a rest.
Doesn't surprise me, that would seem to be greater to you.
"Speculation>facts"
:o
I just noticed after re-reading the article. Davis refers to Crowder as a senior "guard?"
Why does Seth Davis hate Vander Blue?
Quote from: Funky Cold Medina on February 27, 2012, 01:12:33 PM
From http://painttouches.com/
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Heh, they rehosted the screenshot I took that was hosted on imgur. Nothing like being new to the internet :p
Original, posted to muscoop - http://i.imgur.com/sZ0sA.jpg
PaintTouches - http://painttouches.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sz0sa.jpg
We should yell at them on the internet for taking our premium content :)
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
Doesn't surprise me, that would seem to be greater to you.
"Speculation>facts"
:o
Great insight.
/you'd
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Not to turn this into a B*tching match, but the article above is what i mean...
The article above gives us knowledge that Gardner still hasn't made it through a full practice. I will take this as a lot more accredited (with direct quotes from Buzz)than somebody posting, "Gardner's jersey is packed" or "Garder may play, but we're not sure yet" No wonder BD is 100% right on his information, nothing is conclusive, it's just speculation like the rest of us. Didn't BD say that Garder is a "90%" go for Cincy and 99% for G-town? Guess that 10 and 1 % will always leave reason for, "I have always been 100% right"
Buzz said last week on his TV show, that Gardner would attempt to practice on Thursday (night before WV game) for the first time. I would guess that either Gardner didn't make it through the practice, or more likely, that he didn't respond very well the next day. That is what day to day means. I think Buzz has been very up front about this, and I am sure he will say more on his show this week. Maybe everyone should quit obsessing about Gardner. He will play when he is ready.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Not to turn this into a B*tching match, but the article above is what i mean...
The article above gives us knowledge that Gardner still hasn't made it through a full practice. I will take this as a lot more accredited (with direct quotes from Buzz)than somebody posting, "Gardner's jersey is packed" or "Garder may play, but we're not sure yet" No wonder BD is 100% right on his information, nothing is conclusive, it's just speculation like the rest of us. Didn't BD say that Garder is a "90%" go for Cincy and 99% for G-town? Guess that 10 and 1 % will always leave reason for, "I have always been 100% right"
Who the hell cares?
Quote from: 6746jonesr on February 27, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
Buzz said last week on his TV show, that Gardner would attempt to practice on Thursday (night before WV game) for the first time. I would guess that either Gardner didn't make it through the practice, or more likely, that he didn't respond very well the next day. That is what day to day means. I think Buzz has been very up front about this, and I am sure he will say more on his show this week. Maybe everyone should quit obsessing about Gardner. He will play when he is ready.
We won't know until we know. It doesn't surprise me that he couldn't get through a practice. My question is whether he couldn't get through practice because of his knee or because of conditioning. I pray it is the later because if he can come back for the post season and fit in, we have a TON of potiential for a special run.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on February 27, 2012, 03:09:11 PM
We won't know until we know. It doesn't surprise me that he couldn't get through a practice. My question is whether he couldn't get through practice because of his knee or because of conditioning. I pray it is the later because if he can come back for the post season and fit in, we have a TON of potiential for a special run.
The other reason, which is likely it, is that he has not been fully released by the medical staff. Thus, he would be limited in what they allowed him to participate in practice.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 27, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
Doesn't surprise me, that would seem to be greater to you.
"Speculation>facts"
:o
You guys aren't "bickering" are you?
I understand that is prohibited, or at least highly frowned upon here.
Quote from: leever on February 27, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
You guys aren't "bickering" are you?
I understand that is prohibited, or at least highly frowned upon here.
I think you're only banned from bickering with Hoopaloop. Everyone else is fair game.
Quote from: leever on February 27, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
You guys aren't "bickering" are you?
I understand that is prohibited, or at least highly frowned upon here.
No, I think they are using code words for a political discussion. I knew that would happen after that exciting and enticing link from the Badger Board!
"Please write this," he urged. "It was an emotional response that was very unprofessional. I was not trying to do anything disrespectful. It's not who I am and I wish I hadn't done it. It's unfortunate, and I'm sorry."
If anybody on any thread even suggests that Buzz was the least bit unprofessional -- and that we'd be pretty damn pissed if Bo or Pitino did the exact same thing against us -- we get ripped.
But Buzz, himself, knew immediately it was unprofessional, and told Seth Davis this again.
I love that Buzz is MU's coach, but it doesn't make him infallible. And every once in awhile, it's OK for a fan to take off the blue-and-gold glasses before making an observation.
Seconds after looking classless, Buzz turned it around and showed his class with his mea culpa. I'm proud of him.
Front page of SI CBB page.
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Quote from: MU82 on February 27, 2012, 04:40:08 PM
"Please write this," he urged. "It was an emotional response that was very unprofessional. I was not trying to do anything disrespectful. It's not who I am and I wish I hadn't done it. It's unfortunate, and I'm sorry."
If anybody on any thread even suggests that Buzz was the least bit unprofessional -- and that we'd be pretty damn pissed if Bo or Pitino did the exact same thing against us -- we get ripped.
But Buzz, himself, knew immediately it was unprofessional, and told Seth Davis this again.
I love that Buzz is MU's coach, but it doesn't make him infallible. And every once in awhile, it's OK for a fan to take off the blue-and-gold glasses before making an observation.
Seconds after looking classless, Buzz turned it around and showed his class with his mea culpa. I'm proud of him.
Who's getting ripped? It was definitely unprofessional. It was also awesome and hilarious from a fans point of view. And he has been very professional about apologizing for the incident and trying to make it right.