I'm a big Hoya fan tomorrow - get them both to 5 losses!
I go with the Golden Domers here to kick the Hoyas out of the 2/3 equation. MU can lock up second place and the 2 seed by winning this week.
I'm pulling for Georgetown. If they beat Notre Dame, that gives both 5 losses, meaning we can sew up 2nd place with a win at Cincy. Besides, it's Notre Dame, and I just don't like cheering for Notre Dame.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 26, 2012, 03:49:32 PM
I'm pulling for Georgetown. If they beat Notre Dame, that gives both 5 losses, meaning we can sew up 2nd place with a win at Cincy. Besides, it's Notre Dame, and I just don't like cheering for Notre Dame.
Yep it's ND, but its good to knock one team out of the picture. I stay with ND for that reason .....Besides, that would lock up a 2 or 3 seed. ND is going to be there as a 2/3' so don't give the Hoyas any chance to muck things up.
I need a much better reason to root for ND. This is not even close call.
Go Georgetown, well lock up 2nd place with a win in Cincy. Its too risky having ND only with four losses heading into the week. Cant wait for a packed BC on Staurday.
In terms of giving us the highest finish, Georgetown. If they win we get the 2 seed by winning either of our two remaining games. If they lose we get the 2 seed only by winning both of our remaining games. Only thing I don't like is it seems the way it's playing out the 2 seed is going to get Louisville in their first game - I'd rather be the 3 that gets Cincinnati, less afraid of them on a neutral floor. But I'm not willing to lose a game this week to get there.
L'Ville hasn't looked very good there last games so I'm not sure all the angst of we don't want to play them in our first BE game. Would i rather play USF or cinci first, yes but L'ville doesn't scare me, we are playing well.
Would MUCH rather play USF or Cinci first.
Doesn't really matter who we root for, though. Those teams aren't gonna listen!
As much as I can't stand ND, I'd rather see them knock Georgetown out of the equation for 2nd or 3rd.
With regards to who we might see first in the BE Tourney, I'd prefer to see USF over Cincy or Louisville.
Anyone else watching this game? It feels like a B1G matchup yuck
Quote from: CtownWarrior on February 27, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
Anyone else watching this game? It feels like a B1G matchup yuck
Yes, it's ugly. Definitely rooting for GU
Quote from: CtownWarrior on February 27, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
Anyone else watching this game? It feels like a B1G matchup yuck
What are you talking about? ND is blistering the nets for 18 first half points.
Seriously, watching ND shoot the past couple of weeks, how did they ever shoot 50% from 3 land against MU?
Hoyas all the way - ensures us of at least a tie for 2nd in the conference.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 27, 2012, 06:53:36 PM
Hoyas all the way - ensures us of at least a tie for 2nd in the conference.
Definitely rooting for Gerogetown, but the game is terribly boring to watch
They were at home. I read somewhere that notre dame is shooting 20% higher at home for the year or something ridiculous like that.
Quote from: MUMac on February 27, 2012, 06:47:42 PM
What are you talking about? ND is blistering the nets for 18 first half points.
Seriously, watching ND shoot the past couple of weeks, how did they ever shoot 50% from 3 land against MU?
That's why ND has seriously just been getting lucky this whole Big East season. Seriously, they are weak. I'd love to see them in the tourny (either tourny).
Bilas and Raftery just picked Jae as BE POY.
I hope our senior nite goes this well, GTown really playing well
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on February 27, 2012, 07:02:37 PM
That's why ND has seriously just been getting lucky this whole Big East season. Seriously, they are weak. I'd love to see them in the tourny (either tourny).
Careful with that thought. I said the same thing and a few lambasted me. One felt compelled to call me out again after ND whipped WVU. Odd, they have been silent the past two games. ;)
Georgetown, as a Jesuit university (arguably THE Jesuit university) is essentially our sister school. When push comes to shove I will always root for the fellow Jesuit program.
Quote from: chapman on February 26, 2012, 04:04:12 PM
In terms of giving us the highest finish, Georgetown. If they win we get the 2 seed by winning either of our two remaining games. If they lose we get the 2 seed only by winning both of our remaining games. Only thing I don't like is it seems the way it's playing out the 2 seed is going to get Louisville in their first game - I'd rather be the 3 that gets Cincinnati, less afraid of them on a neutral floor. But I'm not willing to lose a game this week to get there.
Assuming that Louisville wins its first BET game is assuming a lot!
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 26, 2012, 01:13:55 PM
I'm a big Hoya fan tomorrow - get them both to 5 losses!
Okay, you got it and now the nightmare scenario is in play; We, Georgetown, ND, and South Florida all finish 13-5, and MU gets seeded fifth in the BET.
We have tie breakers over usf. We r locked in top 4
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 27, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
Okay, you got it and now the nightmare scenario is in play; We, Georgetown, ND, and South Florida all finish 13-5, and MU gets seeded fifth in the BET.
Don't we win the tiebreaker with USF?
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 27, 2012, 08:00:49 PM
We have tie breakers over usf. We r locked in top 4
True. We already have a bye to semi-finals as listed on Big East web site. Exact seed, TBD.
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 27, 2012, 08:00:49 PM
We have tie breakers over usf. We r locked in top 4
Not true. In a multi-team tie, standings in the 'mini-conference,' record vs. top teams in conference become the key factors. Just because we beat them doesn't necessarily mean we'll automatically finish ahead of them.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 27, 2012, 08:06:33 PM
Not true. In a multi-team tie, standings in the 'mini-conference,' record vs. top teams in conference become the key factors. Just because we beat them doesn't necessarily mean we'll automatically finish ahead of them.
Ya but USF hasn't beaten any of the teams in that mini conference, so we trump them
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 27, 2012, 08:06:33 PM
Not true. In a multi-team tie, standings in the 'mini-conference,' record vs. top teams in conference become the key factors. Just because we beat them doesn't necessarily mean we'll automatically finish ahead of them.
After Sunday's game, it said MU received the double bye.
We've now clinched at least a tie for second place in the standings. For second seed in the tournament, we need one more win. If we drop both, we're the fourh seed (third if Notre Dame somehow doesn't beat Providence at home).
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 27, 2012, 08:06:33 PM
Not true. In a multi-team tie, standings in the 'mini-conference,' record vs. top teams in conference become the key factors. Just because we beat them doesn't necessarily mean we'll automatically finish ahead of them.
Doesn't matter...
4-way tie (obviously assuming a MU loss on Saturday)
Georgetown: 4-0
Notre Dame: 2-1
Marquette: 1-3
USF: 0-4
Quote from: Warriors10 on February 27, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Doesn't matter...
4-way tie (obviously assuming a MU loss on Saturday)
Georgetown: 4-0
Notre Dame: 2-1
Marquette: 1-3
USF: 0-4
USF 0-
3, otherwise correct, and I stand corrected, Whew!
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 27, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
USF 0-3, otherwise correct, and I stand corrected, Whew!
My bad. I assumed they played either GT/ND more than once.
Quote from: Warriors10 on February 27, 2012, 08:15:15 PM
My bad. I assumed they played either GT/ND more than once.
Nova, Pitt, Providence. Part of the criticism on them: home and home with 13, 14, and 15th place = 6 of 11 wins.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on February 27, 2012, 08:03:51 PM
True. We already have a bye to semi-finals as listed on Big East web site. Exact seed, TBD.
Wow, somehow four teams get to magically advance to the semi-finals! So I guess any previous winners just have to stop playing huh?
Common sense seems difficult around here.
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on February 26, 2012, 09:30:08 PM
As much as I can't stand ND, I'd rather see them knock Georgetown out of the equation for 2nd or 3rd.
With regards to who we might see first in the BE Tourney, I'd prefer to see USF over Cincy or Louisville.
Unfortunately, it's unlikely for USF to get the 7 seed, unless it's at the expense of Cincy beating MU Wednesday night. However, it's more likely UL will NOT be the 7 seed. They play USF Wednesday night, if they beat USF, they go to 11-6, as well as USF, but since they would own the tiebreaker, UL moves to 5th and USF 6th. That would make Cincy 7th in that scenario.
Quote from: muguru on February 27, 2012, 08:24:54 PM
Unfortunately, it's unlikely for USF to get the 7 seed, unless it's at the expense of Cincy beating MU Wednesday night. However, it's more likely UL will NOT be the 7 seed. They play USF Wednesday night, if they beat USF, they go to 11-6, as well as USF, but since they would own the tiebreaker, UL moves to 5th and USF 6th. That would make Cincy 7th in that scenario.
Sure, but don't forget the other half of the story for all of those teams. USF gets WVU at home where they've only lost one game. Cincy gets a very winnable game at Nova. UL goes to the Carrier Dome. If we go "by the book": UL over USF, USF over WVU, Cincy over Nova, Cuse over UL that'll result in USF 5th, Cincy 6th, Louisville 7th. Those seeds hold regardless of the MU/Cincy outcome since in a true head-to-head USF owns the tiebreaker over Cincy, Cincy owns the tiebreaker over UL.
Quote from: MUMac on February 27, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Careful with that thought. I said the same thing and a few lambasted me. One felt compelled to call me out again after ND whipped WVU. Odd, they have been silent the past two games. ;)
ND sucks. Did I mention, ND sucks? ;D
I was so happy ND lost, I went out a got a burger at Carls.
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