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Title: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 12:50:05 PM
We are team Bubble Watch no more!!!!!

ESPN has moved us into LOCK.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RJax55 on February 14, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 12:50:05 PM
We are team Bubble Watch no more!!!!!

ESPN has moved us into LOCK.

You seem excited.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: AZWarrior on February 14, 2012, 12:55:35 PM
I just wet myself...   :o
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Windyplayer on February 14, 2012, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 14, 2012, 12:55:35 PM
I just wet myself...   :o
What's with the teal?
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on February 14, 2012, 01:07:55 PM
who woulda thunk
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2012, 01:15:06 PM
Is Seton Hall still a lock?
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: strotty on February 14, 2012, 01:19:54 PM
After Cincinnati's win, I considered for the first time Marquette being a "lock" under my definitions.

To be a lock, you have to be able to still make the tournament if you lose the remainder of your games. If Marquette goes into a tailspin and loses its last five, plus the Big East Tournament game, they are 21-11, 10-8 in conference.

In other words, they're in.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Yup, just feels good seeing us as being safely in a month before the tourney.

Still gotta keep winning though obviously. Would really like a 3 seed.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: brewcity77 on February 14, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
TBW was never an ESPN thing, it was originated by Andy Glockner over at si.com. But that said...Glockner has also moved us into the "Locks" category ;D

http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/02/14/Bubble.Watch/index.html?sct=cb_t11_a0
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PVMagic on February 14, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Seth Davis (who many of us bashed early this season when he was one of the last to rank MU in the top 25) mentioned us twice in his weekly twitter Q&A.

"America's best kept secret. Love this team."

"Marquette, UNLV, Wichita St RT @jlilliemulligan: Who are your dark horses that could make a deep tourney run?"
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 14, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: PVMagic on February 14, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Seth Davis (who many of us bashed early this season when he was one of the last to rank MU in the top 25) mentioned us twice in his weekly twitter Q&A.

"America's best kept secret. Love this team."

"Marquette, UNLV, Wichita St RT @jlilliemulligan: Who are your dark horses that could make a deep tourney run?"

FWIW, the other two programs have benefitted from MU transfers in the last decade: UNLV (Reggie Smith) and Wichita State (Karon Bradley).
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 14, 2012, 02:59:54 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 12:50:05 PM
We are team Bubble Watch no more!!!!!

ESPN has moved us into LOCK.

What is the exact definition of "lock"?  I think it means we could lose every game the rest of the season and still make the tourney.

If I'm correct, then moving us to the lock column this week is correct.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 14, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Yup, just feels good seeing us as being safely in a month before the tourney.

Still gotta keep winning though obviously. Would really like a 3 seed.

I would, too, and that is a probable ceiling.  But I have to believe if we win out and make it to the BEAST championship game, we're a lock for a 2 seed.  And I don't think that scenario is as unrealistic as it sounds.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bilsu on February 14, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
I do not know how they can say we are a lock. Lose our last 5 games and a first round Big East tournament game and we are anything but a lock. We would most likely lose the rest of our games if Crowder or Wilson got hurt in practice tomorrow. Realisitically we are in the field, but we are not a lock.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kryza on February 14, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 14, 2012, 02:59:54 PM
What is the exact definition of "lock"?  I think it means we could lose every game the rest of the season and still make the tourney.

If I'm correct, then moving us to the lock column this week is correct.

ESPN's Bubble Watch changed their "rules" this year. Lock used to mean that if you lost every game left, you'd still make the tourney, but this year they assume you won't. Look at IU, they are a lock but still need to win 3 out of their last 6 to not be sweating on selection sunday.

"In the past, we'd wait until it was almost statistically impossible for a team to miss the tournament before we'd confer status as a lock; this year, we'll be a little more lenient. Sure, Team X could lose every game the rest of the way, and thus could miss the tournament. Will it? No. You get the idea. (This won't matter much for another week or two, probably, but be advised all the same.)" - From the 1st Bubble Watch (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch/_/id/130)
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: strotty on February 14, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: bilsu on February 14, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
I do not know how they can say we are a lock. Lose our last 5 games and a first round Big East tournament game and we are anything but a lock. We would most likely lose the rest of our games if Crowder or Wilson got hurt in practice tomorrow. Realisitically we are in the field, but we are not a lock.

21-10, 10-8 gets you in with ease this year. The bubble is horrendous.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 14, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 14, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
TBW was never an ESPN thing, it was originated by Andy Glockner over at si.com. But that said...Glockner has also moved us into the "Locks" category ;D

http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/02/14/Bubble.Watch/index.html?sct=cb_t11_a0

Yeah I know it was but ESPN has been using it this year a lot in chats and on the bubble watch before we were locked in saying "MU is close to dropping the TBW name" or along those lines.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 15, 2012, 06:52:49 AM
9-9 in the BEAST will get you into the tourney about 90% of the time.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: CTWarrior on February 15, 2012, 07:43:08 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 15, 2012, 06:52:49 AM
9-9 in the BEAST will get you into the tourney about 90% of the time.
South Florida will be part of that 10% this year.  USF is 8-4 and likely will finish around 10-8 and many people don't even have them on the bubble.  Wins against Rutgers, Saint John's, Villanova, DePaul, Pitt (especially early) & Providence this year don't impress anybody.  Need to get at least 4 wins from the other teams this season to be sure, I think.  We have our 4, but I think we need just one more win to 100% lock it up.  If we finished 10-8, 21-11 and on a 6 game losing streak that included a home loss to Rutgers and a Big East tourney loss to a low Big East seed, I know I wouldn't be 100% confident on Selection Sunday.  Not that that will happen, of course.
Title: Re: Its Official!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bilsu on February 15, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 15, 2012, 07:43:08 AM
South Florida will be part of that 10% this year.  USF is 8-4 and likely will finish around 10-8 and many people don't even have them on the bubble.  Wins against Rutgers, Saint John's, Villanova, DePaul, Pitt (especially early) & Providence this year don't impress anybody.  Need to get at least 4 wins from the other teams this season to be sure, I think.  We have our 4, but I think we need just one more win to 100% lock it up.  If we finished 10-8, 21-11 and on a 6 game losing streak that included a home loss to Rutgers and a Big East tourney loss to a low Big East seed, I know I wouldn't be 100% confident on Selection Sunday.  Not that that will happen, of course.
It is hard to over come a 7-6 non-conference record.
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