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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: strotty on February 10, 2012, 02:55:14 PM

Title: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: strotty on February 10, 2012, 02:55:14 PM
Just a fun, hypothetical question to throw out there.

Marquette is down one with five seconds left with the ball.

DJO, Jae and Davante have all fouled out (I don't know how MU would be down only one if this happened, but roll with it).

Who takes the last shot?
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on February 10, 2012, 03:04:53 PM
Junior drives and tries to get to the line
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
Junior drives and tries to get to the line

And gets a facial 'cuz he's not quick enough.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2012, 03:07:54 PM
JW
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 10, 2012, 03:08:25 PM
Junior drives and tries to get to the line

And tries to pass at the last second, but the ball goes right into 1 of 4 defender's chest.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 10, 2012, 03:09:55 PM
At least we get last second shots off now... there was a period of time for a few years that every last second shot opportunity we had got fumbled off someone's feet or the pass deflected into the backcourt etc etc etc...
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: tower912 on February 10, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
It could be worse.   We could have to watch a 3 man weave for the last 12 seconds until, with 5 seconds left, one of the guards started a kamikaze move.   (Except when they had Novak standing in the corner)
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: BossplayaOtto on February 10, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
I'll say JWil as he has length and can drive or elevate and get his shot off.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2012, 03:14:21 PM
At least we get last second shots off now... there was a period of time for a few years that every last second shot opportunity we had got fumbled off someone's feet or the pass deflected into the backcourt etc etc etc...

Yeah, who was impersonating a head coach at that time?
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: strotty on February 10, 2012, 03:15:28 PM
At least we get last second shots off now... there was a period of time for a few years that every last second shot opportunity we had got fumbled off someone's feet or the pass deflected into the backcourt etc etc etc...

Vanderbilt and Wisconsin...bad times, bad times....
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 10, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
At least we get last second shots off now... there was a period of time for a few years that every last second shot opportunity we had got fumbled off someone's feet or the pass deflected into the backcourt etc etc etc...

I remember being at work and watching MU-TCU in the ConfUSA tournament where MU had the ball after a timeout in the closing seconds of a tie game (might have even been in OT). A co-worker asked who I thought was going to take the last shot for MU and I told him that I didn't care, I just wanted MU to get a shot off. Sure enough, TCU stole the inbounds pass and hit a 3 to win it. Ahh, those were the days.

Wilson takes the shot in Strotty's scenario.

Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: Sir Lawrence on February 10, 2012, 03:21:33 PM
Todd.  I think statistically he's shooting the two better than anyone else on the list, and while JW is shooting the three a bit better, he hasn't taken nearly as many.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: copious1218 on February 10, 2012, 03:24:15 PM
Since we only need a 2 I want Junior to drive with Blue slashing behind Junior to crash the glass (if Junior shoots).  Have JW on the baseline and Jones and Mayo floating around the 3 point line for kickouts if Junior gets in trouble.  
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: JD on February 10, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
So i'm assuming we got the ball in play?!  Wow!  That's huge already!!
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: brewcity77 on February 10, 2012, 04:02:19 PM
Junior, no question at all. He may not be a great shooter, but he's proven clutch in the past. I trust him completely with his ball in the hands. He's the kind of guy who might be shooting 18% from three for the season, but will hit the shot with the game on the line.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: wadesworld on February 10, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Junior, no question at all. He may not be a great shooter, but he's proven clutch in the past. I trust him completely with his ball in the hands. He's the kind of guy who might be shooting 18% from three for the season, but will hit the shot with the game on the line.

I'm not trying to be a dick, just really can't remember any times he has hit a clutch shot.  Some big free throws to build our lead when the other team is fouling a couple times, but I can't remember him making a shot that gets us back into a game or gives us a lead.  When has he done this?
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: strotty on February 10, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
I'm not trying to be a dick, just really can't remember any times he has hit a clutch shot.  Some big free throws to build our lead when the other team is fouling a couple times, but I can't remember him making a shot that gets us back into a game or gives us a lead.  When has he done this?

Last year at UConn he hit a huge 3-pointer inside two minutes.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 10, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
Junior, no question at all. He may not be a great shooter, but he's proven clutch in the past. I trust him completely with his ball in the hands. He's the kind of guy who might be shooting 18% from three for the season, but will hit the shot with the game on the line.

I voted for Vander, but I'm not sure he's ready for that kind of pressure.  Junior is probably the next best choice IMO, but you're right, I don't trust him to shoot any other time during the game.  Todd Mayo has been so broke and inconsistent, but he's definitely the type of player you want to see be able to take a shot like that... if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MUBurrow on February 10, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
I voted Vander (given my defenses of him time and again, surprise surprise). None of the guys listed have been shooting for all that high a percentage, and when there's that little time on the clock, I want the guy with the most swagger pulling.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: JD on February 10, 2012, 04:28:49 PM
Does it seem alarming to anybody else that as of right now I believe junior is the 7th or an 8th option for a starting PG in the BEast for a last second shot?!

Yes i know a PG is suppose to distribute first, shoot second (most of the time) however i still find it concerning that we have freshman, and bench players picked first.  Anybody care to chime in?
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 10, 2012, 04:39:14 PM
Id give Junior the ball thats forsure. Let him drive and try to find the lane for eithe lay up or a kick out/dump off to someone like Jamil if open to take final shot.

All are pretty much equal options so give Junior the ball and let him choose.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: wadesworld on February 10, 2012, 04:40:43 PM
Does it seem alarming to anybody else that as of right now I believe junior is the 7th or an 8th option for a starting PG in the BEast for a last second shot?!

Yes i know a PG is suppose to distribute first, shoot second (most of the time) however i still find it concerning that we have freshman, and bench players picked first.  Anybody care to chime in?

Sure.  Junior gets a lot of assists, gets our offense flowing better than anybody else on the team BY FAR, and plays his role.  He knows he doesn't have to score for us to win.  He has to get Crowder and DJO scoring first and foremost, then the other guys, and then himself.  We have seen he has the ability to score when he absolutely needs to (see: end of last season.  West Virginia game in the BET, Syrcause game in the NCAA Tournament).
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: RJax55 on February 10, 2012, 04:46:41 PM
Sure.  Junior gets a lot of assists, gets our offense flowing better than anybody else on the team BY FAR, and plays his role.  He knows he doesn't have to score for us to win.  He has to get Crowder and DJO scoring first and foremost, then the other guys, and then himself.  We have seen he has the ability to score when he absolutely needs to (see: end of last season.  West Virginia game in the BET, Syrcause game in the NCAA Tournament).

+1... Is Junior a top-5 pg in the conference? No, but I think he's better than average. As long as Junior doesn't have to carry the team, he can play his role and do it well.

I have to say, his on the ball defense has really improved since the start of the season.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: JD on February 10, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
Sure.  Junior gets a lot of assists, gets our offense flowing better than anybody else on the team BY FAR, and plays his role.  He knows he doesn't have to score for us to win.  He has to get Crowder and DJO scoring first and foremost, then the other guys, and then himself.  We have seen he has the ability to score when he absolutely needs to (see: end of last season.  West Virginia game in the BET, Syrcause game in the NCAA Tournament).


Wade...great insight, how quickly I forgot how JC did have those HUGE games for us.  I personally voted Vander, but that does make sense on how one could vote for JC.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 10, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
Last possession games are so last year.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: wheresthecake? on February 10, 2012, 05:00:54 PM
Vander.  He would get the highest percentage shot of anyone listed.  His man would sag off him and make him take a reasonably open jumper, and even then he could still take it to the rim.  Plus, as someone mentioned, dude has SWAG and will make plays in the clutch.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: tower912 on February 10, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
Last possession games are so last year.

....and the year before that.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 10, 2012, 05:14:58 PM
Junior; seniority prevails.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: chapman on February 10, 2012, 05:18:59 PM
Who do I want to?  Junior.  Who do I hope will?  Jamil.  Who do I think would?  Vander.

Basically if it came down to who do I think will make a play and put up a decent shot or make a drive, it's Junior.  If it's who I think has the most potential to make a play that gets the ball in the hoop it's Jamil.  If it's who I could see taking the last shot because he has the desire and isn't afraid to try and make the play it's Vander. 
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: bilsu on February 10, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
Junior seems to be able to score when he has to. He is the one I would trust the most of this group. Mayo would be my second pick, but I rather go with Junior's experience. Even if the shot is designed for Junior to take he would be more likely to pass the ball off, if it was not going good. Whereas Mayo being a frewshmen is less likely to make a good decision.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: MarquetteDano on February 11, 2012, 08:58:59 AM
I voted for Jamil because the question was who takes the last shot.  I agree with the premise that Cadougan should have his ball in the hands at the end though.

I also think Cadougan is going to show more scoring prowess next year.  Without a 15+ ppg scorer next year I think Cadougan could very easily average 10ppg.
Title: Re: Who takes the last shot? (with a catch)
Post by: mugrad2006 on February 11, 2012, 09:46:51 AM
Trick question.  The correct answer is "whoever just cut backdoor on Jerel McNeal."  Thanks for playing everyone.