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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: shaquilvaine on February 06, 2012, 10:03:37 PM

Title: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: shaquilvaine on February 06, 2012, 10:03:37 PM
That didn't count?
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: wheresthecake? on February 06, 2012, 10:04:33 PM
The nets at DPU suck, that's all.
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Post by: nyg on February 06, 2012, 10:04:37 PM
No.  Has to clear the bottom of net.
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Post by: esotericmindguy on February 06, 2012, 10:18:14 PM
No.  Has to clear the bottom of net.

The net is there to make it easier to determine if the ball went THROUGH the cylinder....that's a ridiculous rule and needs to be changed.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: noblewarrior on February 06, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
Did it bounce out... It happened so fast. I thought it went through.
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Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on February 06, 2012, 10:23:41 PM
On the espn3 feed, it seemed like someone was grabbing the rim every time the ball went through the hoop. Nets must have been brand new trying to slow us down.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: nyg on February 06, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
Never made it out.  It was as if the bottom of the net was a rubberband and shot it straight back out.
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Post by: JTBMU7 on February 06, 2012, 10:24:58 PM
just like Dwight Burke's dunk in the 2007 Gtown game, Junior's best/only dunk will go down as irrelevant...
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Post by: DCWarriors04 on February 06, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
and then you had the BS call at the other end of the court on Wilson's block. Ball was still above the rim and not going down.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: noblewarrior on February 06, 2012, 10:28:39 PM
It was still a great move by JC to the hoop..he is getting more and more aggressive by the game... As has the team...
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: mugoose on February 06, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
both garbage calls, but otherwise was a surprisingly well called game.
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Post by: wojosdojo on February 06, 2012, 10:35:50 PM
I was just pumped to see Junior throw one down.
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Post by: MUMac on February 06, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
both garbage calls, but otherwise was a surprisingly well called game.

Could not disagree more.  This crew was very inconsistent.  Started with touch fouls, turned to allowing anything and everything and then returned to touch fouls.  Very poor crew, IMHO.  You want consistency - whether they call it all touch (@Nova) or let everything go (@ND).  Players can adapt to that.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: downtown85 on February 06, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
 You want consistency - whether they call it all touch (@Nova) or let everything go (@ND).  Players can adapt to that.

@Nova was a horribly called game.  The most obvious foul, the one resulting in DG's injury, was let go.  I think there were a bunch of other calls, for example the technicals that were questionable.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: MU82 on February 06, 2012, 11:18:48 PM
both garbage calls, but otherwise was a surprisingly well called game.

Actually, the Junior dunk wasn't a garbage call at all. The refs merely enforced the rule.

I also thought Jamil's block was goaltending when I saw it in slo-mo.

There were lots of calls worse than those, but none anywhere near as bad as the no-call on which Gardner got hurt against Nova.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: Buzz's Tin on February 07, 2012, 12:58:57 AM
any video?
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: MUMac on February 07, 2012, 06:10:55 AM
Actually, the Junior dunk wasn't a garbage call at all. The refs merely enforced the rule.

I also thought Jamil's block was goaltending when I saw it in slo-mo.

There were lots of calls worse than those, but none anywhere near as bad as the no-call on which Gardner got hurt against Nova.
On Jamil's, ball never got above the cylinder.  Bad call.   
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2012, 06:25:55 AM
Never got above the cylinder and was going up.

In all fairness, at game speed it was a tough call.  I had to see the replay to catch that.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: Oldgym on February 07, 2012, 06:49:00 AM
Had to go back and look.  Came back out like the net was a slingshot.  Ridiculous.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee245/joewiesner1/junior.png)
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: downtown85 on February 07, 2012, 07:19:20 AM
Had to go back and look.  Came back out like the net was a slingshot.  Ridiculous.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee245/joewiesner1/junior.png)

I'd like to look at that again too at what time of the game was that or at what time of the ESPN3 replay is that?  that is if you know. 
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Post by: GGGG on February 07, 2012, 07:49:27 AM
Could not disagree more.  This crew was very inconsistent.  Started with touch fouls, turned to allowing anything and everything and then returned to touch fouls.  Very poor crew, IMHO.  You want consistency - whether they call it all touch (@Nova) or let everything go (@ND).  Players can adapt to that.


The worst was the call on Jae with the loose ball on the floor.  Cmon...he knocked out out of bounds, just give DePaul the ball there.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: MU B2002 on February 07, 2012, 07:59:10 AM

The worst was the call on Jae with the loose ball on the floor.  Cmon...he knocked out out of bounds, just give DePaul the ball there.


Not only was it a bad call, but you could tell he wanted to T Jae up after the play.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: We R Final Four on February 07, 2012, 08:05:35 AM

The worst was the call on Jae with the loose ball on the floor.  Cmon...he knocked out out of bounds, just give DePaul the ball there.

Agree with this one.  The ref is signaling a blocking call with his hands on his hips.?  WTF?  It was a loose ball--should have been a no-call DePaul ball out of bounds.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: hairy worthen on February 07, 2012, 08:10:08 AM

Not only was it a bad call, but you could tell he wanted to T Jae up after the play.

Technically not a bad call, he obviously made contact, but would have been a better non call. Penalizing a hustle play when the ball went to DePaul anyway, kind of deuchy.
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Post by: Oldgym on February 07, 2012, 08:53:19 AM
I'd like to look at that again too at what time of the game was that or at what time of the ESPN3 replay is that?  that is if you know. 

Yup, start watching with about 6:00 to play.  There was five-something on the game clock.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: jaybilaswho? on February 07, 2012, 09:13:33 AM
I was just pumped to see Junior throw one down.

Agree. The net was being a real A-hole to Junior. When a man that size dunks, it shouldn't have to go all the way through to count.

At first sight, I almost didnt even believe it was JC.

Bravo Junior... Bravo.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: MUMac on February 07, 2012, 09:20:45 AM
Agree. The net was being a real A-hole to Junior. When a man that size dunks, it shouldn't have to go all the way through to count.

At first sight, I almost didnt even believe it was JC.

Bravo Junior... Bravo.
Props to Stone Cold, though, who in the chat said Junior was going to dunk on De Paul.  When I saw him do it and with authority, I yelled and never saw the ball come back out.  Reminds me of the one time I saw Butch Lee go up to dunk - against UW in a blowout.  Unfortunately, he was fouled and never dunked it.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 07, 2012, 02:26:36 PM
Technically not a bad call, he obviously made contact, but would have been a better non call. Penalizing a hustle play when the ball went to DePaul anyway, kind of deuchy.

Agreed. It wasn't a bad call because Jae made contact and the ref interprets contact as he sees fit.  However, Jae beat the other player to the ball, and usually the player who reaches a loose ball first is given the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by: Dawson Rental on February 07, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Not only was it a bad call, but you could tell he wanted to T Jae up after the play.

Like he assumed that Jae would consider it a bad call.  What does that tell you? ::)
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: tower912 on February 07, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
Wow.   That thing is about 9 ft off of the ground and managed to fling itself back out.   Freaky.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 07, 2012, 02:49:19 PM
Will his career scoring total have an asterisk?

* = ball went in and mysteriously came back out, possibly due to tight net
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: RJax55 on February 07, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
Will his career scoring total have an asterisk?

* = ball went in and mysteriously came back out, possibly due to tight net

Better question... Would his dunk have counted on the old MUScoop Dunk tracker?
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: MUrugger on February 07, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
Blue looked at Junior after the dunk (what else can you call it?) with a WTF look on his face too.  It was coming right at us and I thought it was an in your face 2 pts.  I don't know if Vander's look at Junior was WTF are you doing?? or WTF, did that count or not??  VB would have to tell us what he thought and if I've missed the video of that, one of you younguns doesn't need to cut and paste it and send it along with today's seniors knock.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Better question... Would his dunk have counted on the old MUScoop Dunk tracker?

DUNK TRACKER!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/DunkMeter-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: T-Bone on February 07, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
DUNK TRACKER!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/DunkMeter-1.jpg)

Awesome. 
Discussion of the Death of Dunk Tracker -
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=10438.0

And there's a poll...
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: National Champs on February 07, 2012, 03:17:17 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320370305&photoId=1841594

Here is a photo of the ball in the net on ESPN. Whoever captioned it failed pretty badly.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: RJax55 on February 07, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
DUNK TRACKER!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/DunkMeter-1.jpg)

Nice... The tracker needs to come back!!

My guess is that Vander would currently be leading it.
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Post by: radome on February 07, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320370305&photoId=1841594

Here is a photo of the ball in the net on ESPN. Whoever captioned it fail pretty badly.
Wow! Seeing it in a photo makes it appear impossible to come out.
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320370305&photoId=1841594

Here is a photo of the ball in the net on ESPN. Whoever captioned it fail pretty badly.

This might be the leader in ways to say Cadougan wrong contest.
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Post by: smrunner99 on February 07, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
ESPN gives Junior creidt for a dunk, per the caption with the photo.  
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Post by: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2012, 03:48:06 PM
ANOTHER OLD SCOOP DUNK METER!!!!!

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/dunk.png)
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on February 07, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
ESPN gives Junior creidt for a dunk, per the caption with the photo.  

The caption gives credit to.....Joe Belcaster #5 of the Marquette Golden Eagles
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: IrwinFletcher on February 07, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
Here is the real Joe Belcaster.  It is easy to see how a mistake could be made....

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/belcaster_joe00.html
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Post by: robmufan on February 07, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
ANOTHER OLD SCOOP DUNK METER!!!!!

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/dunk.png)

This one seems more legit than the previous one...blackledge is on the board with at least 1 dunk (most likely an alley-oop of sorts)
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Post by: AZWarrior on February 07, 2012, 05:30:39 PM
Here is the real Joe Belcaster.  It is easy to see how a mistake could be made....

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/belcaster_joe00.html

Man!  Twin sons of different mothers!!   ::)
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: downtown85 on February 08, 2012, 07:22:35 AM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=320370305&photoId=1841594

Here is a photo of the ball in the net on ESPN. Whoever captioned it failed pretty badly.

Yeah, should've been "Marquette Warriors" not "Marquette Golden Eagles" in the caption.     ;D
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: T-Bone on February 08, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
Here is the real Joe Belcaster.  It is easy to see how a mistake could be made....

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/belcaster_joe00.html

In his Junior year, and apparently a Jr. as his dad has the same name.  An easy mistake...
Title: Re: WTF happened on Juniors dunk?
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 08, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
Any video of this?