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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on February 05, 2012, 04:17:42 PM

Title: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 05, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
I know this has been talked about a lot.  Let me ask if this way ...

It seems like MU is not undersized from the 1 - 4.  It is definitely undersized at the 5.

Is the definition of undersized only the 5?

If so, then is the definition of speed only the 1 and maybe the 2? 
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2012, 04:21:17 PM
We are playing 3 guards.   If we were playing two guards and 3 6'6 guys, your argument tracks.   
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: Pakuni on February 05, 2012, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 05, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
I know this has been talked about a lot.  Let me ask if this way ...

It seems like MU is not undersized from the 1 - 4.  It is definitely undersized at the 5.

Is the definition of undersized only the 5?

If so, then is the definition of speed only the 1 and maybe the 2? 

Yes, MU really is undersized.
Jae Crowder, bless his heart, is a 6-foot-6 four in the Big East.
DJO is a 6-foot-2 2/3.
Vander may be slightly above average for a two, small for a three.
Junior is average for a point.
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: strotty on February 05, 2012, 04:24:44 PM
Yes, size is most definitely linked to forwards/centers and speed to guards. Few teams (Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas) have both.

Playing three guards pretty much concedes you are undersized, and when your "PF" is 6-foot-6 and your center 6-foot-7 (J. Wilson) or 6-foot-8 (Gardner), you are definitely undersized.

On the flip side, Marquette has plenty of speed using three guards and having a 6-foot-6 PF and 6-foot-7 "center" makes them even faster.
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 05, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Is the Pope catholic? Besides the point guard is too slow and can't shoot.
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: MattyWarrior on February 05, 2012, 06:39:05 PM
Not as small as some of our past teams. Maybe we should use 4 guards like Missouri sometimes does
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: Norm on February 05, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
Big difference that hurts MU this season is that besides being undersized, MU just does not have a consistent perimeter 3-point shooter that can light it up from the outside and open up the middle. Imagine how many more clear drives DJO could have if he had an Acker, Cubillan, or dream scenario, Novak, on the perimeter that stopped teams from packing the lane. I'm happy with 19-5, but with both our big guys hurt, I'd love a true sharpshooter from 3-point land to offset our height disadvantage.
Title: Re: Is MU Really Undersized?
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 05, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Norm on February 05, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
Big difference that hurts MU this season is that besides being undersized, MU just does not have a consistent perimeter 3-point shooter that can light it up from the outside and open up the middle. Imagine how many more clear drives DJO could have if he had an Acker, Cubillan, or dream scenario, Novak, on the perimeter that stopped teams from packing the lane. I'm happy with 19-5, but with both our big guys hurt, I'd love a true sharpshooter from 3-point land to offset our height disadvantage.

Hopefully, next year that's Jake Thomas.
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