At the end of the game CBS play-by-play announcer Kevin Harlan repeated the final score and said " ... and the Marquette Warriors 59. Sorry, the Marquette Golden Eagles, 59."
This got me thinking ...
It's been 19 years since MU changed its name to Golden Eagles. Yet the Warrior "brand" is so identified with MU that to this day, people still mistakenly call us Warriors. As we all know, Harlen's mistaken is hardly unique.
Is their any other "brand" in sports that is so strong that it lives on (or could live on) 19 years after it was replaced? All I could think of is people calling the Raiders, "The Oakland Raiders" more than a decade after they left for LA. The Raider brand is so tied up with Oakland it was hard to separate the two, just like MU and Warriors.
No one mistakenly called Stanford the "Indians" 19 years after they became the first school to be politically correct and changed to Cardinal in 1970. Ditto the Washington Wizards. Does anyone make the mistake of calling them the Bullets? 19 years after the Colts left Baltimore did anyone mistakenly call them the "Baltimore Colts?" When North Dakota changes from Fighting Sioux, will they still be mistakenly called the "Fighting Sioux" 19 years later? My bet is no.
What I'm trying to say is how remarkable it is that 19 years later we are still mistakenly called "Warriors." It might be unique in all of sports.
Thoughts?
Yes...and I think MU has tacitly allowed this because I don't think they use "Golden Eagles" or the bird logo in any way associated with Marquette men's basketball.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 04, 2012, 07:02:21 PM
All I could think of is people calling the Raiders, "The Oakland Raiders" decades after they left for LA. The Raider brand is so tied up with Oakland it was hard to separate the two, just like MU and Warriors.
Just to nit-pick, you do know there were only in LA for 12 years, and have since moved back to Oakland, right? Not quite decades of the wrong city...
Oakland Raiders (1960–1981)
Los Angeles Raiders (1982–1994)
Oakland Raiders (1995–present)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 04, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Just to nit-pick, you do know there were only in LA for 12 years, and have since moved back to Oakland, right? Not quite decades of the wrong city...
Oakland Raiders (1960–1981)
Los Angeles Raiders (1982–1994)
Oakland Raiders (1995–present)
Yes and in those 12 years announcers repeatedly called them "the Oakland Raiders."
But I think that was simply a mistake. Announcers are intentionally calling MU the Warriors.
Harlan's dad was a MU alum. He grew up in Green Bay during the '60's/70's. I would guess a fan of MU and Al during those years. He knew them as "Warriors". Likely a slip of the tongue that was etched in memory.
And a few times during the game I heard, "Lets go Warriors". Until all of the class of 1994 and before dies, you will likely hear that at games. Its instinctive. Kinda like shouting "Freebird" at a concert.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 04, 2012, 07:02:21 PM
At the end of the game CBS play-by-play announcer Kevin Harlan repeated the final score and said " ... and the Marquette Warriors 59. Sorry, the Marquette Golden Eagles, 59."
This got me thinking ...
It's been 19 years since MU changed its name to Golden Eagles. Yet the Warrior "brand" is so identified with MU that to this day, people still mistakenly call us Warriors. As we all know, Harlen's mistaken is hardly unique.
Is their any other "brand" in sports that is so strong that it lives on (or could live on) 19 years after it was replaced? All I could think of is people calling the Raiders, "The Oakland Raiders" more than a decade after they left for LA. The Raider brand is so tied up with Oakland it was hard to separate the two, just like MU and Warriors.
No one mistakenly called Stanford the "Indians" 19 years after they became the first school to be politically correct and changed to Cardinal in 1970. Ditto the Washington Wizards. Does anyone make the mistake of calling them the Bullets? 19 years after the Colts left Baltimore did anyone mistakenly call them the "Baltimore Colts?" When North Dakota changes from Fighting Sioux, will they still be mistakenly called the "Fighting Sioux" 19 years later? My bet is no.
What I'm trying to say is how remarkable it is that 19 years later we are still mistakenly called "Warriors." It might be unique in all of sports.
Thoughts?
I think UND will keep the Sioux much like we keep Warriors alive.
Quote from: MUMac on February 04, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
Harlan's dad was a MU alum. He grew up in Green Bay during the '60's/70's. I would guess a fan of MU and Al during those years. He knew them as "Warriors". Likely a slip of the tongue that was etched in memory.
Bob Harlan wasn't just an alumnus. He was also Marquette's Sports Information Director for a while.
It hasn't been 19 years. It's been slightly less than 18.
All the more reason to rightfully restore the Warriors nickname.
In 1996 Bob Dole said that Hideo Nomo had thrown a no-hitter for the Brooklyn Dodgers the night before. That was ~40 years after the Dodgers moved to LA. Does that count? ;)
I was thinking of launching a post, "How much did Harlan make tonight?" but it fits here.
Assuming the keen investigative capabilities of this board will lead to the truth, or at least some plausible facsimile thereof, I'm wondering if the sly Mr. Harlan banked a little something on the side today.
We know that silent and not-so-silent Trustees pledged millions to the school if we would return to the proud Warrior name. Not to really kick-start that polarizing discussion, I think we all understand that there is and will always be some serious money behind that sentiment.
So let's say a guy who knows a guy says to Harlan, "I got a guy who thinks it's worth $20,000 (or whutevuh) today if you manage to flub/reference the name 'Warriors' at least 3x during today's broadcast." I think Kevin just earned himself a nice payday. No foul. CSI couldn't prove it.
And no charge for free thoughts on creating alternative revenue streams to the industrious broadcasting entrepreneur. ;)
Maybe a new car ... ;)
The Warrior name will never officially come back. The Warrior name will never unofficially leave.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 04, 2012, 08:53:16 PM
In 1996 Bob Dole said that Hideo Nomo had thrown a no-hitter for the Brooklyn Dodgers the night before. That was ~40 years after the Dodgers moved to LA. Does that count? ;)
Nothing Bob Dole does counts.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 04, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
The Warrior name will never officially come back. The Warrior name will never unofficially leave.
+1 So let's become the Georgia Tech of the Midwest, then!
Quote from: MUrugger on February 04, 2012, 09:16:38 PM
I was thinking of launching a post, "How much did Harlan make tonight?" but it fits here.
Interesting theory, it keeps the name "alive" and no criminal wrongdoing. Maybe we should start a non-profit just to keep this going :)
Marquette Warriors is as strong a brand as UCLA Bruins, Indiana Hoosiers or North Carolina Tar Heels, to name a few.
It remains a tragic mistake on the part of our university and should've been corrected years ago.
I know this may be off topic, but how about the Tampa Bay baseball team? They are no longer the "Devil" Rays, but just the Rays. What? really? Perhaps we should stop calling the animal they are named after a devil ray. Political correctness gone mad.
I don't recall the "Devil" part of the Rays being dropped for religious reasons. I simply think they wanted a fresh start and shortened the name by which the fans usually referred to them..."Rays."
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
I don't recall the "Devil" part of the Rays being dropped for religious reasons. I simply think they wanted a fresh start and shortened the name by which the fans usually referred to them..."Rays."
Correct, they changed to the name with new ownership as part of a fresh start. That was only a few years ago. Let's see if in 2023 people still refer to them as Devil Rays.
it's embarrassing to even mention the Warriors and the Devil Rays in the same sentence
to compare an expansion team to a team with decades of history is apples to oranges.
I think UND is the better comparison... of course they will be perpetually known as the Fighting Sioux
Couldn't someone start an unofficial clothing line featuring warrior apparel. A sort of guerrilla marketing campaign. If you got the students an fans to buy in and only wear the unofficial clothing line I would think that eventually the university and (nike) makes sure that we switch back to the warriors officially.
As a North Dakota fan I believe they will always be referred to as the Fighting Sioux. Just like the Warriors will always be Warriors!
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on February 05, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
it's embarrassing to even mention the Warriors and the Devil Rays in the same sentence
to compare an expansion team to a team with decades of history is apples to oranges.
I think UND is the better comparison... of course they will be perpetually known as the Fighting Sioux
UND is not one of the most successful programs of all time, did not win a national championship, and did not have a legendary coach. There is also nothing that says the Warrior name has to be tied to Indian heritage. "a warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others", regardless of race, age, nationality, or historical era.
No offense, but I think it's embarrassing to compare the Warriors with the Fighting Sioux.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
UND is not one of the most successful programs of all time, did not win a national championship, and did not have a legendary coach. There is also nothing that says the Warrior name has to be tied to Indian heritage. "a warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others", regardless of race, age, nationality, or historical era.
No offense, but I think it's embarrassing to compare the Warriors with the Fighting Sioux.
In the sport they truly care about, college hockey, they are one of the legendary powers of all time.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2012, 12:56:09 PM
In the sport they truly care about, college hockey, they are one of the legendary powers of all time.
I stand corrected. But I don't give a crap about college hockey and don't know a single person that does.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
I stand corrected. But I don't give a crap about college hockey and don't know a single person that does.
Well I used to. Growing up in Madison in the 70s and 80s it was really the only thing the UW was good at.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Marquette Warriors is as strong a brand as UCLA Bruins, Indiana Hoosiers or North Carolina Tar Heels, to name a few.
It remains a tragic mistake on the part of our university and should've been corrected years ago.
Catholic priests never make a mistake. Just ask them.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
I stand corrected. But I don't give a crap about college hockey and don't know a single person that does.
It's all perspective, my man. In ND, college hockey is huge.
Great. So we really want to compare our brand with a team from a desolate state playing a much less popular sport?
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 02:18:19 PM
Great. So we really want to compare our brand with a team from a desolate state playing a much less popular sport?
I don't think we are comparing brands. We are comparing the use of former nicknames.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
I don't think we are comparing brands. We are comparing the use of former nicknames.
I was comparing brands
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 02:18:19 PM
Great. So we really want to compare our brand with a team from a desolate state playing a much less popular sport?
Just providing some input on ND and the popularity of that team.
No comparison intended.
Quote from: forgetful on February 05, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Couldn't someone start an unofficial clothing line featuring warrior apparel. A sort of guerrilla marketing campaign. If you got the students an fans to buy in and only wear the unofficial clothing line I would think that eventually the university and (nike) makes sure that we switch back to the warriors officially.
This is wishful thinking. There are all the bootleg Marquette Warriors tshirts out there anyone could ever want. This is a dead story. Marquette is never going back to the Warriors for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum. Nike wouldn't touch the toxicity of the issues with a ten foot pole vaulting pole.
I'm ashamed of myself for even responding to this thread this issue is so dead. The current Marquette freshmen were born in 1991. The name change was announced in Spring of 1994. Even the "Marquette Gold" debacle is now 7 years ago. Life goes on. It's over.
We can't have the Warriors brand back because of Nike???
I did a search of "Marquette Golden Eagles" and "Marquette Warriors" on Google Trends. Here are the results:
Golden Eagles: http://www.google.com/trends/?q=marquette+golden+eagles
(http://www.google.com/trends/?q=marquette+golden+eagles)
Warriors: http://www.google.com/trends/?q=marquette+warriors&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
(http://www.google.com/trends/?q=marquette+warriors&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0)
The idea that "most people" or even "a lot of people" still refer to Marquette's sports teams as the "Warriors" in 2012 seems to be misguided based on this data. Feel free to interpret this data however you see fit.
For the record the right thing to do was to keep the name Warriors and lose the Warrior-head logo. When that opportunity was lost, we should have gone back to the Hilltoppers. That said, we are where we are and it is what it is.
Quote from: Z F-B on February 04, 2012, 08:04:20 PM
I think UND will keep the Sioux much like we keep Warriors alive.
How could they not? Best logo in college sports. The UND Fighting Sioux is just an unreal team name.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 06, 2012, 07:38:03 PM
How could they not? Best logo in college sports. The UND Fighting Sioux is just an unreal team name.
I like the Fighting Siouxies for the women's hockey team...
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 06, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
Nike wouldn't touch the toxicity of the issues with a ten foot pole vaulting pole.
Nike doesn't give a crap. This is a company that uses child labor to make their shoes!
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 05, 2012, 02:18:19 PM
Great. So we really want to compare our brand with a team from a desolate state playing a much less popular sport?
Henry stop being a Richard.
At the DePaul game, one of their several dozen students in attendance held up a "Warriors Suck!" sign. So I guess it isn't just the old folks.
The Marquette Warriors were well known as an elite team. The current team plays like Warriors with their attacking and slashing style.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 06, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
This is wishful thinking. There are all the bootleg Marquette Warriors tshirts out there anyone could ever want. This is a dead story. Marquette is never going back to the Warriors for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum. Nike wouldn't touch the toxicity of the issues with a ten foot pole vaulting pole.
I'm ashamed of myself for even responding to this thread this issue is so dead. The current Marquette freshmen were born in 1991. The name change was announced in Spring of 1994. Even the "Marquette Gold" debacle is now 7 years ago. Life goes on. It's over.
+1. Who cares? The current MU students surely don't. If anything, they buy into the whole "Warrior Pride" thing because it's slightly rebellious against the administration, and who doesn't love to hate the "administration" when you're a college kid?
I think it's a little riduclous how people still refer to us as Warriors. That's not our name. If it's a slip-up because of what you're used to, that's one thing. But why blatantly call us something we're not? Wearing your "Warrior Pride" t-shirts that were made probably 20 days ago. You can still smell the fresh ink on the bright yellow cotton that clearly hasn't been through the spin cycle many times. Sweet, way to be vintage man.
And then there's the group of alums that won't donate any money to school until we change our name back. The same people that would yell at students on the phone (me, about 7 years ago, as a student worker making $6/hr calling alum for donation requests) about how appauled they are that we aren't Warriors anymore. Get over yourself. If you're going to donate money back to the school that put you where you are right now, do it for the right reasons... not because you loved there basketball team 30 years ago.
The university has done a pretty good job of covering up the whole thing, not showing the golden eagle anywhere. So let's all relax.
I was a student at Marquette when the whole "let's change our nickname to Gold" crap happened -- there were no student led committees trying to get the name changed back to Warriors -- and if there were, they didn't do a great job. Sure, there were the kids selling Warriors screenprinted shirts for $20 that EVERYONE bought, and then came the "alternative" campus paper called The Warrior ... but the only people making a big deal about the whole thing were alum upset about such a "tradition" being washed away. We're still here, being ultra competitive in one of the toughest conferences in college basketball.
Some of you sound way too much like ND alum when this topic comes up.
I wonder if you ask Travis Diener, Steve Novak, Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal, D James, etc. whether they are Warriors or Golden Eagles, what would they say?
Quote from: murespect on February 08, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
+1. Who cares? The current MU students surely don't. If anything, they buy into the whole "Warrior Pride" thing because it's slightly rebellious against the administration, and who doesn't love to hate the "administration" when you're a college kid?
I think it's a little riduclous how people still refer to us as Warriors. That's not our name. If it's a slip-up because of what you're used to, that's one thing. But why blatantly call us something we're not? Wearing your "Warrior Pride" t-shirts that were made probably 20 days ago. You can still smell the fresh ink on the bright yellow cotton that clearly hasn't been through the spin cycle many times. Sweet, way to be vintage man.
And then there's the group of alums that won't donate any money to school until we change our name back. The same people that would yell at students on the phone (me, about 7 years ago, as a student worker making $6/hr calling alum for donation requests) about how appauled they are that we aren't Warriors anymore. Get over yourself. If you're going to donate money back to the school that put you where you are right now, do it for the right reasons... not because you loved there basketball team 30 years ago.
The university has done a pretty good job of covering up the whole thing, not showing the golden eagle anywhere. So let's all relax.
I was a student at Marquette when the whole "let's change our nickname to Gold" crap happened -- there were no student led committees trying to get the name changed back to Warriors -- and if there were, they didn't do a great job. Sure, there were the kids selling Warriors screenprinted shirts for $20 that EVERYONE bought, and then came the "alternative" campus paper called The Warrior ... but the only people making a big deal about the whole thing were alum upset about such a "tradition" being washed away. We're still here, being ultra competitive in one of the toughest conferences in college basketball.
Some of you sound way too much like ND alum when this topic comes up.
I wonder if you ask Travis Diener, Steve Novak, Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal, D James, etc. whether they are Warriors or Golden Eagles, what would they say?
Who cares? Obviously, the alums who were around before the University made a stupid pseudo-P.C. decision to drop the Warriors nickname. Those of us who do care also realize that there is near zero chance that the Warriors "brand" will ever be reinstated, but we won't "get over ourselves". Guess you'll just have to wait until we all die off!
As for the University "not showing the golden eagle anywhere", that's because the golden eagle is not the Marquette "brand" - they have chosen to try to be identified by that snazzy MU graphic (which I think looks quite good - certainly better than the golden chicken).
Last, I would hope that all of the basketball elite that you mentioned would simply state that they went to Marquette and refrain from being referenced as a "golden eagle".
Quote from: leever on February 08, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
Who cares? Obviously, the alums who were around before the University made a stupid pseudo-P.C. decision to drop the Warriors nickname. Those of us who do care also realize that there is near zero chance that the Warriors "brand" will ever be reinstated, but we won't "get over ourselves". Guess you'll just have to wait until we all die off!
As for the University "not showing the golden eagle anywhere", that's because the golden eagle is not the Marquette "brand" - they have chosen to try to be identified by that snazzy MU graphic (which I think looks quite good - certainly better than the golden chicken).
Last, I would hope that all of the basketball elite that you mentioned would simply state that they went to Marquette and refrain from being referenced as a "golden eagle".
Why would they state only that they went to Marquette and not reference a "golden eagle"? They went to Marquette, they were Golden Eagles. They played really well while they were here. They should be proud about who they were and not try and hide it.
And we're not a "unique brand in the history of sports" because people still reference us as Warriors. We're just the only group of people that complain about it, consistently, year in and year out. Other sports fans get over it, realize it's not a big deal and continue to support their team.
Quote from: murespect on February 08, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
I wonder if you ask Travis Diener, Steve Novak, Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal, D James, etc. whether they are Warriors or Golden Eagles, what would they say?
I'll wager every single one of them would rather be Warriors. In fact, since you're such a name change history expert, perhaps you'll recall that immediately prior to Creans idea to name us Gold, Travis Diener was interviewed by a local TV station indicating he wants the old name back. Only losers prefer Golden Eagles.
I don't understand why we need a nickname at all? If we cannot be Warriors, why not just be Marquette. "We are Marquette!" They chant it, and it doesn't mean anything to say Marquette Golden Eagles. Just be Marquette. It says it all.
Golden Eagles, Gold, Avalanche, Hilltoppers...blah. Who cares.
Quote from: murespect on February 08, 2012, 02:41:09 PM
Why would they state only that they went to Marquette and not reference a "golden eagle"? They went to Marquette, they were Golden Eagles. They played really well while they were here. They should be proud about who they were and not try and hide it.
And we're not a "unique brand in the history of sports" because people still reference us as Warriors. We're just the only group of people that complain about it, consistently, year in and year out. Other sports fans get over it, realize it's not a big deal and continue to support their team.
I'm sure all of them ARE proud that they went to and played for MARQUETTE. I doubt that they are trying to hide anything, but they didn't play at Golden Eagle U, eh? Hey Travis, where did you go to college? Why thanks for asking. I was a Golden Eagle.
As far as supporting the team, judging by the posters here who "prefer" Warriors, I'd say the Warrior alumni support the team very well. Or, are you still hung up on the guy who refused to donate while you were making phone calls at $6 an hour? Seriously? What's the % of alums who DON'T contribute (regardless of the reason)? Sorry you had a bad experience.
Quote from: murespect on February 08, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
+1. Who cares? The current MU students surely don't. If anything, they buy into the whole "Warrior Pride" thing because it's slightly rebellious against the administration, and who doesn't love to hate the "administration" when you're a college kid?
I think it's a little riduclous how people still refer to us as Warriors. That's not our name. If it's a slip-up because of what you're used to, that's one thing. But why blatantly call us something we're not? Wearing your "Warrior Pride" t-shirts that were made probably 20 days ago. You can still smell the fresh ink on the bright yellow cotton that clearly hasn't been through the spin cycle many times. Sweet, way to be vintage man.
And then there's the group of alums that won't donate any money to school until we change our name back. The same people that would yell at students on the phone (me, about 7 years ago, as a student worker making $6/hr calling alum for donation requests) about how appauled they are that we aren't Warriors anymore. Get over yourself. If you're going to donate money back to the school that put you where you are right now, do it for the right reasons... not because you loved there basketball team 30 years ago.
1. I would probably yell at you on the phone, not because of the nickname, but because you come off as a snotty douchebag.
2. Do me a favor. Don't tell me what should be important to me, and I won't tell you what should be important to you. You don't care about the Warriors? Other students don't? (Which isn't entirely true.) I don't care. It is important to me.
3. I fully realize that MU will never change it back. That won't stop me from calling them "Warriors" until my soul leaves this earth.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 08, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
1. I would probably yell at you on the phone, not because of the nickname, but because you come off as a snotty douchebag.
2. Do me a favor. Don't tell me what should be important to me, and I won't tell you what should be important to you. You don't care about the Warriors? Other students don't? (Which isn't entirely true.) I don't care. It is important to me.
3. I fully realize that MU will never change it back. That won't stop me from calling them "Warriors" until my soul leaves this earth.
I'm just representing a different viewpoint of the arguement. Sorry if I come off as a snotty douchebag.
Golden Eagles 4 life.
I think you would be surprised at how many self-righteous, stuck in the past, snotty d-bags really say they will not donate money to the university until the name gets changed...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 08, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
1. I would probably yell at you on the phone, not because of the nickname, but because you come off as a snotty douchebag.
2. Do me a favor. Don't tell me what should be important to me, and I won't tell you what should be important to you. You don't care about the Warriors? Other students don't? (Which isn't entirely true.) I don't care. It is important to me.
3. I fully realize that MU will never change it back. That won't stop me from calling them "Warriors" until my soul leaves this earth.
+1. It's how I feel. When the phone rings from Marquette looking for dough, I donate but I tell them they would get more if they changed the name back. Instead I give those extra donations to other non-profit groups that don't act in a politically correct fashion. To this day I own not one shred of Golden Eagle clothing.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare
I'll wager every single one of them would rather be Warriors. In fact, since you're such a name change history expert, perhaps you'll recall that immediately prior to Creans idea to name us Gold, Travis Diener was interviewed by a local TV station indicating he wants the old name back. Only losers prefer Golden Eagles.
+1 -1
Diener, Wade, all of them would rather be Warriors.
Is there any shred of evidence about your Crean claims? I ask this because in one interview I saw Wade was saying they were going back to Warriors after talking to Coach Crean. Why would Wade say this?
How about the New York "Football" Giants? There haven't been New York Baseball Giants since the fifties yet the giants still get NYFG all the time
Quote from: ODMU238 on February 08, 2012, 03:56:27 PM
How about the New York "Football" Giants? There haven't been New York Baseball Giants since the fifties yet the giants still get NYFG all the time
Which, by the way, is extremely offensive to those suffering from Gigantism. Just ask this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4-CThQskBM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 08, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
1. I would probably yell at you on the phone, not because of the nickname, but because you come off as a snotty douchebag.
2. Do me a favor. Don't tell me what should be important to me, and I won't tell you what should be important to you. You don't care about the Warriors? Other students don't? (Which isn't entirely true.) I don't care. It is important to me.
3. I fully realize that MU will never change it back. That won't stop me from calling them "Warriors" until my soul leaves this earth.
Nice......
I can't believe the students are even paid to make the alumni calls, thought that was a loyalty thing, but good for them. I will give my annual donation no matter what the name, but probably make an extra one if it ever changes.
Quote from: nyg on February 08, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
Nice......
I can't believe the students are even paid to make the alumni calls, thought that was a loyalty thing, but good for them. I will give my annual donation no matter what the name, but probably make an extra one if it ever changes.
It is called phone-a-thon...and I am surprised they haven't called you yet..be prepared
Quote from: icheights on February 08, 2012, 04:54:58 PM
It is called phone-a-thon...and I am surprised they haven't called you yet..be prepared
Yup, last month and I had a great conversation with a freshman from Minnesota. He sent me my pledge card/letter and a nice handwritten note.
And to be clear, I always donate (a small amount cause I have two kids in college) to the phonathon and would never yell at the students.