of Hoopaloop and Chicos?
Whenever Chicos buys a mirror.
Give 'em a little time, they're too consumed with celebrating the Marquette loss to worry about pictures right now.
This is a real helpful thread. Thanks.
Over/under on # of buttcrack center parts in the pic?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 04, 2012, 03:58:54 PM
of Hoopaloop and Chicos?
Not this time around. He stayed in Indianapolis for the Super Bowl with his wife and some functions he had for work down there (beach bowl, SB parties and such). Considering what I witnessed at the Joyce, he made the correct decision. What an ugly second half display.
Then the day was topped off several hours later when IU beat Purdue. Not a good Saturday for me.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne
Or a friend.
You just can't help yourself, can you? If his Facebook is any indication, he looks like he has an overload of friends. That recent poll in the Super Bar, 50% don't want him back and 50% do or don't care. Sounds like you love him or hate him. My guess is most of you have never met him. My wife and I spent some time with his family when we went out to Disneyland. Nice family, great MU fan. Personalities on the internet don't always come through that great, yours included Sultan. I, however, will give you the benefit of the doubt.
You even preach like Chicos. Hmmmm.....
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 06, 2012, 05:24:29 PM
Not this time around. He stayed in Indianapolis for the Super Bowl with his wife and some functions he had for work down there (beach bowl, SB parties and such). Considering what I witnessed at the Joyce, he made the correct decision. What an ugly second half display.
Then the day was topped off several hours later when IU beat Purdue. Not a good Saturday for me.
You just can't help yourself, can you? If his Facebook is any indication, he looks like he has an overload of friends. That recent poll in the Super Bar, 50% don't want him back and 50% do or don't care. Sounds like you love him or hate him. My guess is most of you have never met him. My wife and I spent some time with his family when we went out to Disneyland. Nice family, great MU fan. Personalities on the internet don't always come through that great, yours included Sultan. I, however, will give you the benefit of the doubt.
if his facebook is any indication, your buddy is channeling his inner I4 with all the name drops and party drops. ::)
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 06, 2012, 05:24:29 PM
That recent poll in the Super Bar, 50% don't want him back and 50% do or don't care. Sounds like you love him or hate him.
A technically factual statement that gives a deliberately false impression. Congratulations. Somewhere your mentor must be smiling.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 06, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
You even preach like Chicos. Hmmmm.....
All that is missing is one of these: <sigh>
My initial post after Chico's bannination was to point out that he was only part of the problem...that there were a handful of posters on this board who seemed intent to constantly pick fights with him. The fact that nearly seven months later he's still mentioned in many threads, we have entire threads created to discuss him and posters who take unpopular positions are frequently accused of being him just supports my initial opinion that some of the people who apparently were (are) obsessed with Chicos were a large part of the problem.
I guess since we still have threads arguing over a coach who's been gone for 4 years, I shouldn't be surprised that we still have threads about Chicos.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2012, 07:58:57 AM
My initial post after Chico's bannination was to point out that he was only part of the problem...that there were a handful of posters on this board who seemed intent to constantly pick fights with him. The fact that nearly seven months later he's still mentioned in many threads, we have entire threads created to discuss him and posters who take unpopular positions are frequently accused of being him just supports my initial opinion that some of the people who apparently were (are) obsessed with Chicos were a large part of the problem.
I guess since we still have threads arguing over a coach who's been gone for 4 years, I shouldn't be surprised that we still have threads about Chicos.
Could it be that chicos had 20,000 or so posts? Could it be that chicos actually started many of those fights? Could it be people really go irritated with his constant cr@pping in a thread and denegrating it? Maybe those are the answers to your comment. I think chicos is similar to murff in many regards, and I do not mean that complimentary.
I liked chicos early on. He really morphed into a bit of an @ss, much like murff. He had a lot to offer, but it got lost with all the other stuff he did. Unfortunate. That said, I would welcome him back (but hope he would lose some of the behavior that got him banned).
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2012, 07:58:57 AM
My initial post after Chico's bannination was to point out that he was only part of the problem...that there were a handful of posters on this board who seemed intent to constantly pick fights with him. The fact that nearly seven months later he's still mentioned in many threads, we have entire threads created to discuss him and posters who take unpopular positions are frequently accused of being him just supports my initial opinion that some of the people who apparently were (are) obsessed with Chicos were a large part of the problem.
I guess since we still have threads arguing over a coach who's been gone for 4 years, I shouldn't be surprised that we still have threads about Chicos.
People are still mentioning him because it is plain as day that Hoopaloop IS Chicos and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a couple other sign on names, as well. The whole Hoopaloop this is beyond bizarre with the entire Purdue fan/friend of Chicos persona he's adopted. It's pathological, really.
Quote from: MUMac on February 07, 2012, 08:28:38 AM
Could it be that chicos had 20,000 or so posts? Could it be that chicos actually started many of those fights? Could it be people really go irritated with his constant cr@pping in a thread and denegrating it? Maybe those are the answers to your comment. I think chicos is similar to murff in many regards, and I do not mean that complimentary.
I liked chicos early on. He really morphed into a bit of an @ss, much like murff. He had a lot to offer, but it got lost with all the other stuff he did. Unfortunate. That said, I would welcome him back (but hope he would lose some of the behavior that got him banned).
Honestly, I agree with pretty much everything you said, and I've never said otherwise. My point has always been that as much of a pain in the ass as Chico's was sometimes (often? always?), there was a handful of posters on this board who seemed determined to antagonize him at every turn (and he was an idiot to constantly take the bait -- and I've told him that). He's gone. They're still here. And they're still spending a surprising amount of time talking about a poster who's been gone for seven months. Oh, and they have new targets now.
As much of a pain as Chico's was, I think that the last seven months confirm that he was only half of the problem.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Honestly, I agree with pretty much everything you said, and I've never said otherwise. My point has always been that as much of a pain in the ass as Chico's was sometimes (often? always?), there was a handful of posters on this board who seemed determined to antagonize him at every turn (and he was an idiot to constantly take the bait -- and I've told him that). He's gone. They're still here. And they're still spending a surprising amount of time talking about a poster who's been gone for seven months. Oh, and they have new targets now.
As much of a pain as Chico's was, I think that the last seven months confirm that he was only half of the problem.
this
What I wouldn't do for a 1984-style Memory Hole right now.
Come on, people. Dig deep and move on. You've got a MU education, I know you can do it.
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Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2012, 07:58:57 AM
My initial post after Chico's bannination was to point out that he was only part of the problem...that there were a handful of posters on this board who seemed intent to constantly pick fights with him. The fact that nearly seven months later he's still mentioned in many threads, we have entire threads created to discuss him and posters who take unpopular positions are frequently accused of being him just supports my initial opinion that some of the people who apparently were (are) obsessed with Chicos were a large part of the problem.
It is one poster...who sounds just like the guy.
And if Chicos was only half the problem, why was he banned? Why not the other half?
Gimme a break...
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 07, 2012, 10:26:13 AM
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Must be those darn ghosts in the machine again.
(Kidding .... please don't ban me)
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 07, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
It is one poster...who sounds just like the guy.
And if Chicos was only half the problem, why was he banned? Why not the other half?
Gimme a break...
Well now, you've raised an interesting question.
Hi-jacking threads continuously and being that thorn who repeatedly brings up any chinks in the MU armor, while trumpeting the victories of the departed head coach (regardless of how trivial they are) was beyond annoying. Hoopaloop/Chicos are akin to Muggsy/Murff on the Scout board.... it's all about their agendas, and I am glad 1/2 (ok one screen name) has been banished.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 07, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Must be those darn ghosts in the machine again.
(Kidding .... please don't ban me)
Well played.
(he edited it himself, fyi.)
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 06, 2012, 07:21:03 PM
A technically factual statement that gives a deliberately false impression. Congratulations. Somewhere your mentor must be smiling.
My mentor is my father, not sure what he has to do with this thread. It was a factual statement that gave no false impression. Anyone taking a 64 vote sample seriously for a message board by nearly 6,500 members has their own foibles. ;)
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 08, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
My mentor is my father, not sure what he has to do with this thread. It was a factual statement that gave no false impression. Anyone taking a 64 vote sample seriously for a message board by nearly 6,500 members has their own foibles. ;)
6,500 registered members. How many actually participate in discussion and votes?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 08, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
My mentor is my father, not sure what he has to do with this thread. It was a factual statement that gave no false impression. Anyone taking a 64 vote sample seriously for a message board by nearly 6,500 members has their own foibles. ;)
YOU were the one who quoted the poll and you were also the one who lumped the "don't cares" with the "bring him backs" to give the false impression of a 50/50 split on the matter when the real number was 2 to 1 against. Chicos used to frequently do that sort of thing.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 08, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
My mentor is my father, not sure what he has to do with this thread. It was a factual statement that gave no false impression. Anyone taking a 64 vote sample seriously for a message board by nearly 6,500 members has their own foibles. ;)
please, go away
Right. Hoopaloop is the only problem here. Just like Chicos was the only problem before.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 08, 2012, 12:14:24 PM
Right. Hoopaloop is the only problem here. Just like Chicos was the only problem before.
I said "please",
All I know is when Chicos left, this board became a much better place to visit. No, he was not the only problem, but an overwhelming, major source of irritant for many people.
I view the people responding to his agenda driven, inflammatory posts as the symptom and Chico as the cause.
Now we have his twin, or clone, or whatever the hell he is, acting eerily similar. I would like him to just go away
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Honestly, I agree with pretty much everything you said, and I've never said otherwise. My point has always been that as much of a pain in the ass as Chico's was sometimes (often? always?), there was a handful of posters on this board who seemed determined to antagonize him at every turn (and he was an idiot to constantly take the bait -- and I've told him that). He's gone. They're still here. And they're still spending a surprising amount of time talking about a poster who's been gone for seven months. Oh, and they have new targets now.
The guy who wrote the headline "MU Choking Dogs Pee All Over Themselves", the guy who all but called our coach a cheater, the guy who ripped our players because they were Jucos. I could go on forever and still only get to the tip of the iceburg.
He goes to sites (Dodds, Badgernation, Scoop, etc.), picks fights, gets personal and gets banned. The idea that he's someone being picked on, antagonized, etc., who just "takes the bait" is ludicrous. He does like to play the victim when the argument isn't going his way, though, and I guess some people buy it. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 08, 2012, 12:46:03 PM
The guy who wrote the headline "MU Choking Dogs Pee All Over Themselves", the guy who all but called our coach a cheater, the guy who ripped our players because they were Jucos. I could go on forever and still only get to the tip of the iceburg.
He goes to sites (Dodds, Badgernation, Scoop, etc.), picks fights, gets personal and gets banned. The idea that he's someone being picked on, antagonized, etc., who just "takes the bait" is ludicrous. He does like to play the victim when the argument isn't going his way, though, and I guess some people buy it. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
very "Napoleon"-esque
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 08, 2012, 12:46:03 PM
The guy who wrote the headline "MU Choking Dogs Pee All Over Themselves", the guy who all but called our coach a cheater, the guy who ripped our players because they were Jucos. I could go on forever and still only get to the tip of the iceburg.
He goes to sites (Dodds, Badgernation, Scoop, etc.), picks fights, gets personal and gets banned. The idea that he's someone being picked on, antagonized, etc., who just "takes the bait" is ludicrous. He does like to play the victim when the argument isn't going his way, though, and I guess some people buy it. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
That's a surprising amount of time talking about a person that's been gone for seven months.
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Quote from: MU B2002 on February 08, 2012, 01:34:31 PM
Weren't some of the antagonists of CBB responsible for driving BMA away?
It was my understanding that CBBs constant threadjacking drove BMA away.
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 08, 2012, 01:34:31 PM
Weren't some of the antagonists of CBB responsible for driving BMA away?
does BMA post anywhere anymore?
I still don't see why we can't all get along.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 08, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
I still don't see why we can't all get along.
All together, now. Are we all holding hands? One, two, three ... Kumbya, my Lord, Kumbya ...
I think the constant thread jacking drove BMA away, which was the fault of both sides. I don't think bma was a fan of Ners (which by the way, where is he? Haven't seen him in awhile).
I will say, this board has been a lot better to read. I feel we are having actual discussions of what is happening on the floor and with the team and far less bickering.
Quote from: MUMac on February 08, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
All together, now. Are we all holding hands? One, two, three ... Kumbya, my Lord, Kumbya ...
Damn it. Now I have that stupid song stuck in my head. Worse than that I just brought this ridiculous thread back up to the top
nm. not important.
Quote from: hairyworthen on February 08, 2012, 12:03:55 PM
please, go away
Haven't enough Marquette fans left already from here? Big tent, MU nation. We agree on some things we disagree on others.
Quote from: ringout
It was my understanding that CBBs constant threadjacking drove BMA away.
CBB has been gone for 6 or 7 months and BMA hasn't come back. Maybe there was something else going on. Do you think? ::)
Quote from: 4everwarriors
I still don't see why we can't all get along.
+1
Quote from: Lenny's Tap
The guy who wrote the headline "MU Choking Dogs Pee All Over Themselves", the guy who all but called our coach a cheater, the guy who ripped our players because they were Jucos. I could go on forever and still only get to the tip of the iceburg.
If I had a $1 for every time someone here called us chokers I would be rich. He isn't the only one. Didn't he apologize for those comments? Did you miss the part about being a Catholic and foregiveness?
If I had a $1 for every time people were concerned about the number of Junior College players in our program I would be even richer. He was not the only one. Tip of the iceburg? Do you write everything down that he has said? Should someone go back in and check what you have written here to analyze?
Quote from: Lenny's Tap
YOU were the one who quoted the poll and you were also the one who lumped the "don't cares" with the "bring him backs" to give the false impression of a 50/50 split on the matter when the real number was 2 to 1 against. Chicos used to frequently do that sort of thing.
You don't know how interpret polls or data then. When there is a three choice answer you need to factor in all three choices. 50% wanted him gone. 50% said bring him back or don't care. That is the truth. You improperly apply your analysis as if there were two choices. I'd suggest taking a statistics class or how to interpret polling data.
Quote from: Wadesworld
6,500 registered members. How many actually participate in discussion and votes?
A small percentage. That shows me that not many people care or are adult enough to ignore threads or posts they don't like. Others obsess over certain posters. Chicos did. Ners did (where is that guy?). Lenny's still does. Ringout still does. It's personal between them. I told CBB the same thing. You made it personal and he agreed with me. He knows he made mistakes. Unfortunately the other side is still here doing it. You guys still talk about him.
Personally, I miss BMA, Marquette84, the pilot of the Thunderbolt with the Hykus, Chicos, and dozens of others that don't come by here anymore. Some guys still stop by from time to time, but are scarce posters compared to their past activity.
Quote from: Cheebs09
I think the constant thread jacking drove BMA away, which was the fault of both sides. I don't think bma was a fan of Ners (which by the way, where is he? Haven't seen him in awhile).
I will say, this board has been a lot better to read. I feel we are having actual discussions of what is happening on the floor and with the team and far less bickering.
+1 on both sides to blame, no one can deny that unless your name is denial (or Lenny's tap) ;D
The board seems more boring to me. Conversations have less depth. I enjoyed hearing multiple views. Now it's a collective voice of one sometimes. Sultan brought up something a few weeks ago and got hammered by some posters here for reasons I didn't understand. Ners had an opinion a month or so ago when people went all personal on him. Respect each other's opinions but encourage diversity of thinking. That was how the board used to be when I was a reader far before a participant. I'd hate to see it turn into Scout light where 99% of the participants just nod and slap each other on the backside for every thought.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2012, 06:32:53 PM
This is a real helpful thread. Thanks.
Remember way back when, when I posted that? It goes double now.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 08, 2012, 01:20:50 PM
That's a surprising amount of time talking about a person that's been gone for seven months.
Why is it surprising to take a little time to respond to a couple of rather lengthy posts by StillAWarrior? Maybe I shouldn't have "taken the bait" ;)
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 08, 2012, 03:50:13 PM
CBB has been gone for 6 or 7 months and BMA hasn't come back. Maybe there was something else going on. Do you think? ::)
+1
If I had a $1 for every time someone here called us chokers I would be rich. He isn't the only one. Didn't he apologize for those comments? Did you miss the part about being a Catholic and foregiveness?
If I had a $1 for every time people were concerned about the number of Junior College players in our program I would be even richer. He was not the only one. Tip of the iceburg? Do you write everything down that he has said? Should someone go back in and check what you have written here to analyze?
You don't know how interpret polls or data then. When there is a three choice answer you need to factor in all three choices. 50% wanted him gone. 50% said bring him back or don't care. That is the truth. You improperly apply your analysis as if there were two choices. I'd suggest taking a statistics class or how to interpret polling data.
A small percentage. That shows me that not many people care or are adult enough to ignore threads or posts they don't like. Others obsess over certain posters. Chicos did. Ners did (where is that guy?). Lenny's still does. Ringout still does. It's personal between them. I told CBB the same thing. You made it personal and he agreed with me. He knows he made mistakes. Unfortunately the other side is still here doing it. You guys still talk about him.
Personally, I miss BMA, Marquette84, the pilot of the Thunderbolt with the Hykus, Chicos, and dozens of others that don't come by here anymore. Some guys still stop by from time to time, but are scarce posters compared to their past activity.
+1 on both sides to blame, no one can deny that unless your name is denial (or Lenny's tap) ;D
The board seems more boring to me. Conversations have less depth. I enjoyed hearing multiple views. Now it's a collective voice of one sometimes. Sultan brought up something a few weeks ago and got hammered by some posters here for reasons I didn't understand. Ners had an opinion a month or so ago when people went all personal on him. Respect each other's opinions but encourage diversity of thinking. That was how the board used to be when I was a reader far before a participant. I'd hate to see it turn into Scout light where 99% of the participants just nod and slap each other on the backside for every thought.
Vintage.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 08, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
Remember way back when, when I posted that? It goes double now.
Probably a little more worthwhile than the Official Douche Bag thread.
Every time I take him off ignore, he makes me regret it inside 24 hours. He has that in common with his fan crush.
Quote from: ringout on February 08, 2012, 01:49:06 PM
It was my understanding that CBBs constant threadjacking drove BMA away.
Your understanding was wrong. (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636)
Catching up on Cracked Sidewalks today, did you notice the guy you hate wrote a piece about Buzz Williams as coach of the year in the Big East about a week ago? Tip of the Iceberg?
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2012/01/buzz-williams-for-big-east-coach-of.html
Quote from: Z F-B on February 08, 2012, 04:45:32 PM
Vintage.
Accusing someone of posting as someone else when the mods have said it isn't him, but then actually doing it yourself and getting caught (Chicosbailbongs). Vintage. Epic Vintage
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30103.msg350182#msg350182
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 10, 2012, 04:10:43 PM
Catching up on Cracked Sidewalks today, did you notice the guy you hate wrote a piece about Buzz Williams as coach of the year in the Big East about a week ago? Tip of the Iceberg?
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2012/01/buzz-williams-for-big-east-coach-of.html
Sounds contrite. Kind of underwritten for him, almost as if he wanted to show that he could stay on point.