ton's of talent in the front court, no production from their backcourt guys.
i also dont get all the hype around lamb, maybe he's in a bad situation, but he doesnt look all that impressive...
Did you see what he did to Marquette last year? He looked pretty good to me.
Didn't Lamb want to come to MU. Why didn't it happen?
Buzz said he wanted to come to MU but he came to the elite camp and " played awful". I assume we never offered.
It happens
Lots of season left but UConn is clearly working their way OUT of the tournament.
Quote from: 6746jonesr on February 01, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
Did you see what he did to Marquette last year? He looked pretty good to me.
yes, scored 24 at the BC in a win and 8 at home in a loss. still dont get the hype.
Quote from: 6746jonesr on February 01, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
Did you see what he did to Marquette last year? He looked pretty good to me.
IWB tells a story about Lamb being so clueless at the MU camp that he couldn't successfully go from station to station for drills. He wanted to come, but he showed nothing at the camp.
Uconn can't put the ball in the dang bucket. Poor shooting team and drummond is not the type of player you can throw the ball to and get a two. Good defensive team, but they don't force turnovers for easy points.
Quote from: Jblattner7 on February 01, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
yes, scored 24 at the BC in a win and 8 at home in a loss. still dont get the hype.
Stud Freshman on a Natl Champion team?........maybe that is where the hype comes from, not sure.
Quote from: jsglow on February 01, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Lots of season left but UConn is clearly working their way OUT of the tournament.
And still plenty of time for Indiana to do the same. That would be awesome. Would take a major collapse, but they're doing their best to make that happen.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 01, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
Stud Freshman on a Natl Champion team?........maybe that is where the hype comes from, not sure.
Stud freshman who is now getting exposed as a secondary scorer without kemba.
Not saying he's not good, but people were talking about him as a lottery pick. I don't see it.
Quote from: Jblattner7 on February 01, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
Stud freshman who is now getting exposed as a secondary scorer without kemba.
Not saying he's not good, but people were talking about him as a lottery pick. I don't see it.
Huh? He's averaging 18 points, 4.5 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 1 block per game this year while shooting 50% from the field, 38% from the 3 point line, and 84% from the free throw line. For a 19 year old who stands 6'5" I'd say those are pretty darn impressive numbers. Not sure what more you can ask for...
Probably a top 10 pick in this year's NBA Draft, and for good reason.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Huh? He's averaging 18 points, 4.5 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 1 block per game this year while shooting 50% from the field, 38% from the 3 point line, and 84% from the free throw line. For a 19 year old who stands 6'5" I'd say those are pretty darn impressive numbers. Not sure what more you can ask for...
Probably a top 10 pick in this year's NBA Draft, and for good reason.
Again, not saying he is bad. Just that he was annointed as an all conference/all american after a year of playing with kemba, and maybe he's not that good. Now he's the only guy who can create and he isn't productive enough to help win games.
BTW, that stat line sounds awfully familiar.... DJO? Jae? Actually, Lamb's is worse than both of theirs.
Quote from: Jblattner7 on February 01, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Again, not saying he is bad. Just that he was annointed as an all conference/all american after a year of playing with kemba, and maybe he's not that good. Now he's the only guy who can create and he isn't productive enough to help win games.
BTW, that stat line sounds awfully familiar.... DJO? Jae? Actually, Lamb's is worse than both of theirs.
And DJO and Jae are both undersized seniors, while he's an NBA-sized teenager.
Not productive enough to help UConn win games? Again, what more do you want him to do? Put up 30 a game?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
And DJO and Jae are both undersized seniors, while he's an NBA-sized teenager.
Not productive enough to help UConn win games? Again, what more do you want him to do? Put up 30 a game?
Yes. Kemba did it last year.
As far as what he can do, how about.... Put up more than points than DJO? Have a winning record in conf? Help your team score more than 45pts? To name a few...
Wow.
Quote from: Jblattner7 on February 01, 2012, 10:15:27 PM
Yes. Kemba did it last year.
As far as what he can do, how about.... Put up more than points than DJO? Have a winning record in conf? Help your team score more than 45pts? To name a few...
Did Kemba "do it" last year? You realize UConn went 9-9 in th Big East last year, right? And that right now UConn is 4-4 in the Big East, on pace to go...oh, 9-9. Weird.
When 3 of your starters combine to score 2 points and your bench combines for 10 points in a game, you aren't going to win many games. Not sure what Lamb is supposed to do about that. But hey, man, you're right. Lamb stinks. 18 and 4.5 while shooting 50% from the field in the Big East as a teenager. What a disappointment. Why so much hype?
Lol ::)
Quote from: wadesworld on February 02, 2012, 01:03:34 AM
Did Kemba "do it" last year? You realize UConn went 9-9 in th Big East last year, right? And that right now UConn is 4-4 in the Big East, on pace to go...oh, 9-9. Weird.
When 3 of your starters combine to score 2 points and your bench combines for 10 points in a game, you aren't going to win many games. Not sure what Lamb is supposed to do about that. But hey, man, you're right. Lamb stinks. 18 and 4.5 while shooting 50% from the field in the Big East as a teenager. What a disappointment. Why so much hype?
Lol ::)
4-5 now in BE. Little off the pace now ;)
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Huh? He's averaging 18 points, 4.5 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 1 block per game this year while shooting 50% from the field, 38% from the 3 point line, and 84% from the free throw line. For a 19 year old who stands 6'5" I'd say those are pretty darn impressive numbers. Not sure what more you can ask for...
Probably a top 10 pick in this year's NBA Draft, and for good reason.
Not in the coming year's draft; no way.
Quote from: KC2016 on February 02, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
Not in the coming year's draft; no way.
How about #12?
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
Quote from: wadesworld on February 01, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Huh? He's averaging 18 points, 4.5 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 1 block per game this year while shooting 50% from the field, 38% from the 3 point line, and 84% from the free throw line. For a 19 year old who stands 6'5" I'd say those are pretty darn impressive numbers. Not sure what more you can ask for...
Probably a top 10 pick in this year's NBA Draft, and for good reason.
agreed the dude has unbelievable length in his reach
Quote from: wadesworld on February 02, 2012, 01:03:34 AM
Did Kemba "do it" last year? You realize UConn went 9-9 in th Big East last year, right? And that right now UConn is 4-4 in the Big East, on pace to go...oh, 9-9. Weird.
When 3 of your starters combine to score 2 points and your bench combines for 10 points in a game, you aren't going to win many games. Not sure what Lamb is supposed to do about that. But hey, man, you're right. Lamb stinks. 18 and 4.5 while shooting 50% from the field in the Big East as a teenager. What a disappointment. Why so much hype?
Lol ::)
bro, i'm not saying he is bad, i understand he is a good player and will get drafted.
I just mean that he was a preseason all American and early pick for top 5 draft pick. people were lauding him as this great talent who would dominate the conference. so far he has not performed to those expectations despite their of front court talent that open up spots for him.
he also is weak on D, ESPN highlighted him waving at a number of drivers in last nights game.
he averages 15.5ppg and 1.5 apg in conference by the way.
Quote from: nyg on February 02, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
How about #12?
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
Nice to see DJO holding down the standard MU last pick in the 1st round.
Quote from: Warriors10 on February 02, 2012, 01:44:25 AM
4-5 now in BE. Little off the pace now ;)
Haha good call. I looked at the MUScoop Big East standings, which hadn't been updated yet.
Quote from: nyg on February 02, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
How about #12?
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft
3 in this one (not even I will say he will go top 5, though. The draft is stacked at the top).
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2012-NBA-Mock-Draft
8 in this one.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1036532-2012-nba-mock-draft-predictions-for-the-entire-first-round/page/8
7 in this one.
http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm
3 in this one.
http://thehoopsreport.com/draft.aspx
7 in this one.
http://www.thesportsbank.net/nba-draft-stock-report/2012-nba-mock-draft-first-round-12612/
9 in this one.
http://www.nba-draft.com/
8 in this one.
http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2012mock.php
8 in this one.
That was literally every single link that comes up on the first page when you Google "2012 Mock NBA Draft."
So...
Quote from: KC2016 on February 02, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
Not in the coming year's draft; no way.
Yeah...
Quote from: Jblattner7 on February 02, 2012, 08:26:11 AM
bro, i'm not saying he is bad, i understand he is a good player and will get drafted.
I just mean that he was a preseason all American and early pick for top 5 draft pick. people were lauding him as this great talent who would dominate the conference. so far he has not performed to those expectations despite their of front court talent that open up spots for him.
he also is weak on D, ESPN highlighted him waving at a number of drivers in last nights game.
he averages 15.5ppg and 1.5 apg in conference by the way.
I'm really confused as to how you can keep referring to how great their front court talent is, when their front court produces absolutely nowhere close to what Lamb produces, and then continue to talk about how Lamb hasn't produced enough to help his team win. The logic just makes absolutely no sense.
Lamb: 17.7 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2 assists, 1.5 blocks, 0.8 steals, 2.3 turnovers, 48% from the field, 36% from the 3 point line, 85% from the free throw line.
Drummond: 10.3 points, 7.8 rebounds, 0.6 assists, 0.9 steals, 2.5 blocks, 1.7 assists, 57% from the field, 33%!!!!! from the line, hasn't made a 3 (not sure if he's taken any, really doesn't matter)
Oriahki: 6.2 points, 4.7 rebounds, 0.3 assists, 0.1 steal, 1 block, 1.3 turnovers, 47% from the field, 54% from the free throw line, again has not made a 3
And just for the sake of it:
Napier: 13.6 points, 3.9 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.2 blocks, 3 turnovers, 40% from the field, 36% from 3 point range, 74% from the free throw line
Boatright: 9 points, 2.9 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.8 turnovers, 46% from the field, 36% from 3 point range, 73% free throws
So if UConn's back court "stanks," then their front court is godawful.
You are not a real Marquette fan if you think Lamb is a better NBA prospect than DJO
I've been watching UConn since Calhoun got here in the 80s. The guy is an all-world recruiter. After the early years when he struggled with MU-like issues (no talented size), he has always relied on 3 things.
1. Long, strong, athletic big men to lock down the paint on defense and catch and dunk on offense. (It's actually embarrassing that none of his big men, including Emeka Ofakor, a phenomenal talent, ever developed even a rudimentary post game. I can't understand why he keeps getting them. Trust me, the big guys at UConn that go to the NBA would go regardless of who their college coach was. I will grant that he does teach good defense fundamentals to his big people and instills a real work ethic.)
2. A "coach on the floor" type point guard who keeps the offense flowing and gets the ball where it needs to be when it needs to be there. This is important because UConn doesn't run a discernable offense and relies on the one-on-one abilities of their PG and wings to break down the defense.
3. A wing man who can score.
Oriakhi and Drummond are typical UConn big men with physical gifts and a good motor. They are both the same guy, though and do not complement each other yet. Lamb is the wing scorer and is a good one. Boatright is going to end up being the QB a team that runs no semblance of planned offense needs. He's a freshman that's had a lot of elibility issues and hasn't had a ton of floor time yet. Napier is a shoot first PG who is better suited to be the energy guy off the bench.
UConn will eventually put it all together and be a very dangerous team. It depends on when the light goes on for Boatwright. Let's hope it happens some time after Feb 18.