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#mubb's @iGetBuckets_54 will miss tonight's game vs. SHU with left knee sprain. His future status will be evaluated on game-by-game basis.
Crap. Crap. Crap. :-[
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 31, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
Crap. Crap. Crap. :-[
I think we will be fine for this game. Juan Anderson, maybe even jones are going to have to eat up some minutes somewhere.
Our roster is quickly starting to look like Missouri's. Only without Ricardo Ratliffe.
Get well soon, DG. (No, seriously, SOON.)
WELLLLL that sucks. Hopefully he'll be alright come Saturday. I think we can get by tonight, but the game just got a lot more interesting. We NEEED to have a quick start...none of the down 15 ten minutes in crap.
Quote from: robmufan on January 31, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
I think we will be fine for this game. Juan Anderson, maybe even jones are going to have to eat up some minutes somewhere.
I'm concerned about this game... This is a must win situation for Seton Hall and Pope was going to be hard to stop even with Gardner.
Quote from: RJax55 on January 31, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
I'm concerned about this game... This is a must win situation for Seton Hall and Pope was going to be hard to stop even with Gardner.
I agree. Don't have the best feeling. We don't even have a big man for the game and I don't see Anderson or Jones doing anything if they get extended minutes. Hope I am wrong though.
Quote from: RJax55 on January 31, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
I'm concerned about this game... This is a must win situation for Seton Hall and Pope was going to be hard to stop even with Gardner.
Assuming it will be JC, DJO, Blue, Crowder, Wilson I think we will have enough speed/athleticism/talent to win. Maybe it won't be the prettiest game, but all they need to do is get the W
Crowder slides to center. Jamil starts.
It's just like last season, except Jamil has to play like JFB.
Quote from: marqptm on January 31, 2012, 04:33:10 PM
Crowder slides to center. Jamil starts.
It's just like last season, except Jamil has to play like JFB.
Shut down Theodore and no quick fouls on Crowder or J. Wilson. That happens and MU should be fine.
Quote from: RJax55 on January 31, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
I'm concerned about this game... This is a must win situation for Seton Hall and Pope was going to be hard to stop even with Gardner.
Ditto. If that dude from UWGB put up 22/15 on us sans Otule, imagine what Pope will do without both of our centers. Need huge foul-free games from Crowder and JWilson. If Cadougan can keep Theodore in check that would be huge. He needs to play like he did the first 5 games of the streak. If the Nova Cadougan shows up we're in deep doo doo butter.
This is actually good news isn't it?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 31, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
This is actually good news isn't it?
The fact they aren't going to push him out there at not 100%? I would agree!
Quote from: Jamailman on January 31, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
Ditto. If that dude from UWGB put up 22/15 on us sans Otule, imagine what Pope will do without both of our centers. Need huge foul-free games from Crowder and JWilson. If Cadougan can keep Theodore in check that would be huge. He needs to play like he did the first 5 games of the streak. If the Nova Cadougan shows up we're in deep doo doo.
Beyond Pope, Seton Hall has really shot the ball poorly lately, almost too poorly. I mean, 27% at home (against Louisville), that's awful. They're bound to starting playing better on offense.
Quote from: RJax55 on January 31, 2012, 04:53:46 PM
Beyond Pope, Seton Hall has really shot the ball poorly lately, almost too poorly. I mean, 27% at home (against Louisville), that's awful. They're bound to starting playing better on offense.
Unfortunately Marquette is known for allowing breakout games, to individual players at least. Let's hope that we don't allow one of those tonight.
This shouldn't be much of a contest.
You've got an average team playing very badly going on the road to an above average team that is playing well enough to win six in a row. I'd put money on MU eight days a week in this situation.
A slip-up here would be revealing, regardless of who is in uniform.
Depends on the reason for the slip up. A quick whistle on Jae or JWilson and this thing could turn ugly and stay ugly. If JJones and Juan are unable to contribute 15 decent minutes, see above. Buzz managed to cover the loss of Otule. Can he cover the loss of his second big in only 48 hours? If he can't, he won't be the first. If he can, it may be time to accept that the little OCD spud can coach.
Quote from: robmufan on January 31, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
The fact they aren't going to push him out there at not 100%? I would agree!
I don't see any good news here. The information MU is providing doesn't rule out the possibility of a more serious injury that will keep Gardner out for several more games.
Let's see if he is able to play on Saturday or Monday.
Quote from: wisblue on January 31, 2012, 05:22:40 PM
I don't see any good news here. The information MU is providing doesn't rule out the possibility of a more serious injury that will keep Gardner out for several more games.
Let's see if he is able to play on Saturday or Monday.
This. Remember just as Otule's injury was initially ruled a sprain like a lot of ACL tears, it's still not out of the possibility that Gardner could've torn the ACL.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on January 31, 2012, 05:34:28 PM
This. Remember just as Otule's injury was initially ruled a sprain like a lot of ACL tears, it's still not out of the possibility that Gardner could've torn the ACL.
I hate to be a gloomy gus, but when he landed on that leg and fell Saturday I thought ACL for sure :(
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on January 31, 2012, 05:34:28 PM
This. Remember just as Otule's injury was initially ruled a sprain like a lot of ACL tears, it's still not out of the possibility that Gardner could've torn the ACL.
Trying to think positive but ...
About 8 out of 10 serious knee injuries are first described as "sprains."
The good thing is that they are saying day to day, which they didn't for Otule. (Although not long after the injury, I believe Buzz was talking publicly about looking forward to having Otule back "soon.")
The glass is half FULL... DG is "day to day" Let's not start thinking the worst. When he went down I did not immediately think ACL or anything but a tweak or sprain
ACL Tear has been ruled out..it is his MCL.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on January 31, 2012, 05:47:47 PM
ACL Tear has been ruled out..it is his MCL.
Care to reveal your source?
The source is not important, what is important is whether the info is correct or not, if it is is accurate then you should be glad I shared it, but if I am wrong you can bash me (and deservedly so). I will stand by what I wrote.
If it's MCL sprain = I'm thinking he plays Saturday
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2012, 05:18:27 PM
Depends on the reason for the slip up. A quick whistle on Jae or JWilson and this thing could turn ugly and stay ugly. If JJones and Juan are unable to contribute 15 decent minutes, see above. Buzz managed to cover the loss of Otule. Can he cover the loss of his second big in only 48 hours? If he can't, he won't be the first. If he can, it may be time to accept that the little OCD spud can coach.
We can parse it with "what ifs" but I just happen to think that a team challenging for the title shouldn't lose this game unless they shoot under 30%.
A team with no one over 6'6 should be a lock. Wow.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2012, 07:56:50 PM
A team with no one over 6'6 should be a lock. Wow.
Why do you hate Marquette?
Man, with fans who don't think they're challenging for a title it's no wonder they start games so unenthused.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 31, 2012, 05:08:42 PM
This shouldn't be much of a contest.
You've got an average team playing very badly going on the road to an above average team that is playing well enough to win six in a row. I'd put money on MU eight days a week in this situation.
A slip-up here would be revealing, regardless of who is in uniform.
Slipping... Thankfully SH is playing to expectations.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 31, 2012, 07:59:55 PM
Why do you hate Marquette?
Man, with fans who don't think they're challenging for a title it's no wonder they start games so unenthused.
Are you asking yourself that question? your continued negative commentary makes one wonder.
Speaking of injuries, Draymond Green from Michigan State went down tonight and it did not look good. He is potential Big Ten POY.
Buzz on post game: sprained knee, day-to-day, swelling has gone down a lot, had an MRI and there is not a tear, his timeframe is as soon as it feels good enough to support 290 lbs.
If he is not 100% ready to go against Notre Dame, he should sit. Possibly even for DePaul to get the extra rest for Cincy. Have to think big picture.
Watching how he sat tonight i thought the swelling has gone down about 50%
Quote from: chapman on January 31, 2012, 09:25:37 PM
Buzz on post game: sprained knee, day-to-day, swelling has gone down a lot, had an MRI and there is not a tear, his timeframe is as soon as it feels good enough to support 290 lbs.
Glad to hear that...not great news, but better than what it could have been.
Great to hear what Buzz said postgame. I was about 30 feet from DG at the game tonight and based on what I saw, I didn't see him ready to go soon, certainly not Saturday. He's moving slowly, didn't join the team in the on-court huddle much, and didn't flex the leg at all. Been through two knee reconstructs, and it was a familiar look. Helps to hear what Buzz said.
What did Buzz say about Gronkowski?
He recited Gronkowski's stats and injury history while at Arizona. Unprompted.
You know what really frosts my flakes? The refs didn't call a foul on the play Gardner got hurt ... and it wasn't a borderline situation. Gardner got hammered from behind.
"Well it's a sprained knee. He got an MRI and he didn't tear any ligaments, so that's good. The swelling has gone down since Sunday morning. I think it's just hard to guess, when you weight 290 pounds, how long does it take to get all the swelling out. So we're not trying to hide anything. He didn't tear anything. He will be back. When will he be back? I don't know."
--Buzz, on the severity of Davante's injury
Quote from: Oldgym on January 31, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
He recited Gronkowski's stats and injury history while at Arizona. Unprompted.
Hahaha. I didn't hear the postgame but reading this made me laugh out loud. What a weird guy. Nobody really like him in the game. Would love to have heard that.
Just got back from the game and someone close to the program, in the position to know, said he'll be out 3 to 4 weeks. You know his name and he perfers I not use it.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2012, 07:56:50 PM
A team with no one over 6'6 should be a lock. Wow.
I agree and since Wilson is 6' 8" and Anderson is 6"7" we should be good.
Quote from: Spencer Pratt on January 31, 2012, 11:57:15 PM
Hahaha. I didn't hear the postgame but reading this made me laugh out loud. What a weird guy. Nobody really like him in the game. Would love to have heard that.
Well, I sorta made that up. But if he HAD done so, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 31, 2012, 11:57:36 PM
Just got back from the game and someone close to the program, in the position to know, said he'll be out 3 to 4 weeks. You know his name and he perfers I not use it.
Awful. Go ahead and write the Cincy, UConn, and WVU games down as losses. @ND will be a minor miracle without him as well. I was hoping we could get to 13-5 or 14-4, but now the only two "gimme" games left on the schedule are Rutgers and @DePaul. Road games against Cooley, Drummond/Oriakhi, and Kilicli/Jones will NOT be pretty. Home against Gates won't exactly be a walk in the park either.
We finally get
two legit big men, when we have been STARVING just
one since RJax left, and they both go down as we were poised to have our best season since '03. The Georgetown home game could be a must-win to get to 11-7. Just hope we avoid a monumental collapse in his absence and get him back in the swing of things come tournament time!
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 01, 2012, 12:06:41 AM
I agree and since Wilson is 6' 8" and Anderson is 6"7" we should be good.
We are good. But how high is our ceiling with DG and CO on the sidelines? With a total of 29 minutes and 2 pts off of the bench? I anticipate 4-4 down the stretch, but unlike some others here, I won't be looking for a ledge to jump off. This is a tough-as-nails, junkyard dog team. That has only played a solid 40 minutes twice all year. But never believes they are going to lose. I am thoroughly enjoying them.
If gardner misses three weeks, he'll be back for either the uconn or rutgers game. If he misses four he'll be back for either the wvu or cincy game. Not the end of the world... Just so long as he actually comes back.
Quote from: Oldgym on January 31, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
Great to hear what Buzz said postgame. I was about 30 feet from DG at the game tonight and based on what I saw, I didn't see him ready to go soon, certainly not Saturday. He's moving slowly, didn't join the team in the on-court huddle much, and didn't flex the leg at all. Been through two knee reconstructs, and it was a familiar look. Helps to hear what Buzz said.
He had a brace on the knee tonight. That is why he could not flex it. Sitting on the court, that is the best way to protect him.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 31, 2012, 11:57:36 PM
Just got back from the game and someone close to the program, in the position to know, said he'll be out 3 to 4 weeks. You know his name and he perfers I not use it.
I'd find that assessment really surprising given what Buzz said in his post game. There was nothing torn so you don't have to worry about healing. He just has to get the swelling down to the point that he has enough flexibility and doesn't have too much pain. Buzz said the swelling was significantly down and that is in 2 days. Buzz and very aware (a little too aware) of what goes on on these boards. Could be a way to spread more mis-information. We'll see.
remember when ezeli missed 10 games earlier this season for vanderbilt? MCL sprain...
People, EVERY INJURY IS NOT THE SAME. Festus Ezeli does not equal Davante Gardner does not equal Matt Forte. All speculation is pure speculation at this point. Everybody comparing themselves or their brother or friend to an injured player is also a terrible idea. Most of us on this board are/ were not Division I athletes. Comparing our bodies to theirs is ridiculous.
that was my point. every injury is different. ezeli missed 10 games. buzz says day to day. a source says 3-4 weeks. any could be possible...
MCL sprains are generally classified into three grades based on severity. It would be helpful to know what grade it was (apologize if someone posted this already).
I am hoping others will step up while he recovers and when he is back they will be stronger for it. Every team has injuries - it's about who can overcome them.
heard from an MU admin at the game that Gardner dislocated his knee cap. Not a doctor, didnt play one on tv, didnt stay in a holiday inn express so not sure what the prognosis is. Based on seeing him on crutches, not moving well, etc, doesnt look like he is returning soon. Yes we will miss his inside presence but we will see if some of our other guys can step up which could help the team long term (and shouldnt hurt us too much short term while we are sitting 2nd in conf. with easier part of schedule).
Sprained my MCL playing pick-up hockey. Finished the game, swelled like a balloon after, could not walk up stairs the next morning, had an X-ray and MRI that afternoon, diagnosed an MCL sprain, given some pain meds, and told to stay off the ice for 2-3 weeks. Went home, took the meds, iced, wrapped my knee, and was back on the ice at 9:00pm. The pain lingered for months, but never got any worse and was completely tolerable when playing (adrenaline helped).
My sister, OTOH, not so fortunate... sprained her MCL playing basketball junior year of high school, was on crutches for over three months, eventually forced to have surgery, ending her organized basketball days.
MCL injuries don't seem to ever be clear... could mean tomorrow, might mean never again. I really didn't get the feeling that the MCL was clearly understood in the medical world from conversations with my orthopod at the time, but maybe he just sucked. Seems to be more information around these days, but it still is a fraction of what's available on the ACL. Apparently ACL is the "sexy" injury... most people never heard of the MCL. I call it the Marquette phenomenon:
"I sprained my MCL"
"Isn't that by your ACL"
"Actually, it's in Milwaukee, not Michigan."
how dare you relay anecdotal information on MCL injuries. didn't you read MUDPT's post?
Quote from: harigtad on February 01, 2012, 10:19:23 AM
heard from an MU admin at the game that Gardner dislocated his knee cap. Not a doctor, didnt play one on tv, didnt stay in a holiday inn express so not sure what the prognosis is. Based on seeing him on crutches, not moving well, etc, doesnt look like he is returning soon. Yes we will miss his inside presence but we will see if some of our other guys can step up which could help the team long term (and shouldnt hurt us too much short term while we are sitting 2nd in conf. with easier part of schedule).
Agreed it might help players develop long term, but easier part of schedule? I'll grant you DePaul and Rutgers, but @ND, Cincy, and @UConn are not exactly games we would have breezed through, even with Davante. Add in the fact that three games separate us from 9th place, and yeah, this injury will hurt us. Anything better than 2-3 over the next 5 and I'll be thrilled. We went from having the inside track on 2nd place with a decent shot at 1st to hoping to hang on to a double bye. Without Otule & Gardner, we are basically a more athletic version of the Cubillan/Acker/Hayward/Butler/DJO team with worse shooting. Gonna hafta gut out some wins here, just like that team did.
Should probably just redshirt Davante.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 01, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
how dare you relay anecdotal information on MCL injuries. didn't you read MUDPT's post?
Ha. I would bet my next paycheck that it is not an MCL sprain. There was no video evidence (that I can remember) of a valgus stress (knee bends inwards). If there is an MCL injury there is probably an ACL injury too on that play.
Quote from: harigtad on February 01, 2012, 10:19:23 AM
heard from an MU admin at the game that Gardner dislocated his knee cap. Not a doctor, didnt play one on tv, didnt stay in a holiday inn express so not sure what the prognosis is. Based on seeing him on crutches, not moving well, etc, doesnt look like he is returning soon. Yes we will miss his inside presence but we will see if some of our other guys can step up which could help the team long term (and shouldnt hurt us too much short term while we are sitting 2nd in conf. with easier part of schedule).
The patellar subluxation makes way more sense. It was probably not a full dislocation since I didn't see any attempts to reduce it by Eugene after the injury. He was actually testing the ACL from what I remember. A subluxation basically means the knee cap comes out of where it supposed to be and goes right back to where it supposed to be. It's rather benign, for knee injuries, but can have associated patellar cartilage damage.
The 3-4 weeks thing is best estimate that I would assume who ever made this determination is probably 25% confident on. First, Davante has to show equal range of motion side to side. Then he has to show close to equal strength and close to equal functional strength (hop tests). After he does that, he will be ready to play. If that happens by Friday, he will probably play. If that happens March 1st, he will play then. I'm pretty sure, Davante, Buzz, Eugene, the team physicians have no definite time table on when that is going to happen.
The fans will not know when Davante will be back, simply because Buzz won't let it out. ND and DePaul both have to prepare this week that he is going to play. That's why the university official injury listing is "day to day." We will find out if he plays Saturday when the first person posts it here that they see him in warm-ups.
Thanks for the update MUDPT.
I'm having flashbacks to the Dominic James injury.
Quote from: marqptm on February 01, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
Should probably just redshirt Davante.
Not sure if this should be in teal .... it's too late in the season to red shirt and get an extra season for DG
Quote from: NotAnAlum on February 01, 2012, 08:45:44 AM
I'd find that assessment really surprising given what Buzz said in his post game. There was nothing torn so you don't have to worry about healing. He just has to get the swelling down to the point that he has enough flexibility and doesn't have too much pain. Buzz said the swelling was significantly down and that is in 2 days. Buzz and very aware (a little too aware) of what goes on on these boards. Could be a way to spread more mis-information. We'll see.
I'm only passing along what I was told by a credible source.
Wasn't the initial forecasts for Otule first day-to-day and then a few weeks?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 01, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
I'm only passing along what I was told by a credible source.
Wasn't the initial forecasts for Otule first day-to-day and then a few weeks?
Yes, but nobody ever came out and said "nothing is torn" which Buzz did last night so we'll see. I'd like to see DG back by Cincy as I think we can beat DePaul without DG...Notre Dame, on the other hand...well, probably not.
I think we will take Notre Dame down with or without Gardner. Same with Cincy at home. We're better than they are, imo, and neither team has the length necessary to exploit our lack of height. Gates and Cooley are no better than Herb Pope, and we handled him just fine.
Quote from: MUDPT on February 01, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
Ha. I would bet my next paycheck that it is not an MCL sprain. There was no video evidence (that I can remember) of a valgus stress (knee bends inwards). If there is an MCL injury there is probably an ACL injury too on that play.
I watched the DVR of that play afterwards. I thought his knee did bend inward when viewing that.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 01, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
I think we will take Notre Dame down with or without Gardner. Same with Cincy at home. We're better than they are, imo, and neither team has the length necessary to exploit our lack of height. Gates and Cooley are no better than Herb Pope, and we handled him just fine.
We handled Pope because we got him in foul trouble. And he's prone to that. We attacked him perfectly in the 2nd half. He got his 4th with something like 13 minutes left.
I think we should all just stop passing along what we hear from "credible sources" and stories of our own injuries and wait for an official message from the team. Right now, he's day-to-day. Anything other than that is a myster to any of us on this board, so why try to make it up.
Quote from: tommyc6 on February 01, 2012, 12:13:30 PM
I think we should all just stop passing along what we hear from "credible sources" and stories of our own injuries and wait for an official message from the team. Right now, he's day-to-day. Anything other than that is a myster to any of us on this board, so why try to make it up.
Why? This is a message board. As I wrote before uninformed speculation is what we do well. Why stop now?
because this is a message board, not a fact board. the whole point is to speculate...on the team, on injuries, on the future, on woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc.
Quote from: jsglow on February 01, 2012, 12:08:49 PM
We handled Pope because we got him in foul trouble. And he's prone to that. We attacked him perfectly in the 2nd half. He got his 4th with something like 13 minutes left.
I believe it was ten minutes left, but I understand your point. Why would we not try and do the same against Cooley and Gates? And I would argue that neither is as skilled offensively as Pope, regardless.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 01, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
because this is a message board, not a fact board. the whole point is to speculate...on the team, on injuries, on the future, on woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc.
When five different people say: 1) he should play vs. ND 2) it's a knee sprain, is questionable 3) out 1-2 weeks 4) out 3-4 weeks or 5) dislocated his knee cap....
....it makes it dumb to post anything. That's why.
I still don't see how it's dumb.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 01, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
Wasn't the initial forecasts for Otule first day-to-day and then a few weeks?
To answer your question based on what Buzz said publicly. NO. Buzz immediately expressed deep concern about Chris's condition.
Buzz then said that it was hard to determine the extent of the damage due to the large amount of swelling. Conversely in this case Buzz has said that the MRI was complete, that there was no damage and that the swelling had gone down significantly. The public statements made by the coach were completely different in the 2 cases.
Now what you may be refering to is a picture that appeared on this board that appeared to show Chris on the court in warm-ups at the LSU game which lead many here to beleive that he might return any day.
Its possible that Buzz could be down playing this to throw everybody off But based on what has come out of his mouth He beleives the DG injury is much less serious than he ever felt Chris's was.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on February 01, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
To answer your question based on what Buzz said publicly. NO. Buzz immediately expressed deep concern about Chris's condition.
Buzz then said that it was hard to determine the extent of the damage due to the large amount of swelling. Conversely in this case Buzz has said that the MRI was complete, that there was no damage and that the swelling had gone down significantly. The public statements made by the coach were completely different in the 2 cases.
Now what you may be refering to is a picture that appeared on this board that appeared to show Chris on the court in warm-ups at the LSU game which lead many here to beleive that he might return any day.
Its possible that Buzz could be down playing this to throw everybody off But based on what has come out of his mouth He beleives the DG injury is much less serious than he ever felt Chris's was.
Thanks .. this was very helpful
Quote from: elephantraker on January 31, 2012, 09:42:06 PM
Watching how he sat tonight i thought the swelling has gone down about 50%
Really? You're good. I didn't see a whole lotta flexion in that sucker. Actually thought Otule motored better than DG.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 01, 2012, 12:21:21 PM
I believe it was ten minutes left, but I understand your point. Why would we not try and do the same against Cooley and Gates? And I would argue that neither is as skilled offensively as Pope, regardless.
Yep. 10:27 mark. Agree that Pope is superior to Cooley for sure. But I do think Pope is prone to 'stupid' fouls. The key to last night I thought was getting him off his game via fouls. When that finally happened, he lost his spark offensively and couldn't patrol the paint defensively.
ND is simply a better team with way more scoring options where Cooley mostly cleans up the garbage (pretty effectively, at that). Tough mission ahead.
Get healthy DG.
Quote from: jsglow on February 01, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
Yep. 10:27 mark. Agree that Pope is superior to Cooley for sure. But I do think Pope is prone to 'stupid' fouls. The key to last night I thought was getting him off his game via fouls. When that finally happened, he lost his spark offensively and couldn't patrol the paint defensively.
ND is simply a better team with way more scoring options where Cooley mostly cleans up the garbage (pretty effectively, at that). Tough mission ahead.
Get healthy DG.
Right, and I definitely wouldn't say we handled Pope just fine. He did have 16 points, which is his high in Big East play this season, on 57% shooting despite only playing 28 minutes. We were fortunate to get him into foul trouble and we took over after he picked up his 4th.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on February 01, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
Its possible that Buzz could be down playing this to throw everybody off But based on what has come out of his mouth He beleives the DG injury is much less serious than he ever felt Chris's was.
The bolded part is more like it. It seems Buzz is incapable of BS, he says it how it is.
Quote from: frozena pizza on February 01, 2012, 11:28:46 AM
Thanks for the update MUDPT.
I'm having flashbacks to the Dominic James injury.
I still lose sleep at night wondering how far the 08-09 team would have gone if not for that fateful stress fracture.
Quote from: timinatorx3 on February 01, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
I still lose sleep at night wondering how far the 08-09 team would have gone if not for that fateful stress fracture.
I still lose sleep at night wondering how far MU would have gone if Chones, McNeil and Lucas did not leave early for the pro's.
Quote from: MUMac on February 01, 2012, 07:29:29 PM
I still lose sleep at night wondering how far MU would have gone if Chones, McNeil and Lucas did not leave early for the pro's.
Would have been the best Marquette has ever seen!
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 01, 2012, 08:55:05 AM
that was my point. every injury is different. ezeli missed 10 games. buzz says day to day. a source says 3-4 weeks. any could be possible...
Yep. Anyone expecting an exact time frame is sadly mistaken. Day to day means every team we play has to think its possible Devante plays. Buzz is a poker player and he will not show his hand, nor should he.
Fingers are crossed. DG is a difference maker!
Any word on Otule and his surgery? In fact I haven't heard if he's even had surgery. If not, could MU see Otule dressing late in the season as Junior did his Freshman year... doubt it but I'll remain optimistic until I hear otherwise...
Quote from: noblewarrior on February 02, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
Any word on Otule and his surgery? In fact I haven't heard if he's even had surgery. If not, could MU see Otule dressing late in the season as Junior did his Freshman year... doubt it but I'll remain optimistic until I hear otherwise...
He had surgery around the St. John's game? Or the home game against Villinova? In Buzz's post-game interview with Homer he kept talking about having gone to see Chris and how "drunk" Chris was (rather than "drugged up"), how he was saying goofy things.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 02, 2012, 05:19:55 PM
He had surgery around the St. John's game? Or the home game against Villinova? In Buzz's post-game interview with Homer he kept talking about having gone to see Chris and how "drunk" Chris was (rather than "drugged up"), how he was saying goofy things.
Good to hear he's getting it taken care of ... Thanks
Quote from: noblewarrior on February 02, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
Any word on Otule and his surgery? In fact I haven't heard if he's even had surgery. If not, could MU see Otule dressing late in the season as Junior did his Freshman year... doubt it but I'll remain optimistic until I hear otherwise...
http://painttouches.com/2012/01/31/otule-rises-above-knee-injury/
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Quote from: strotty on February 02, 2012, 05:29:07 PM
http://painttouches.com/2012/01/31/otule-rises-above-knee-injury/
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Ha! Was just about to post it as a response too - that was a really good article
Not that it's really any news but:
Seth Davis @ SethDavisHoops
I'm told that Marquette F Davante Gardner is unlikely to play Saturday at Notre Dame. He's still walking around on crutches
Not too shocking...no need to put 290 pounds of weight on that knee if you don't have to. Hopefully they have him on a tight diet; not being able to run around for someone like Devante could cause weight issues if not careful. I think he's back for Cincy.
Andy Katz also posted that he's expected to be out for Saturday.