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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 03:03:40 PM

Poll
Question: Who is/was your favorite MU player of all time?
Option 1: Bo Ellis votes: 3
Option 2: Doc Rivers votes: 12
Option 3: Dean Meminger votes: 7
Option 4: Don Kojis votes: 1
Option 5: Dwyane Wade votes: 43
Option 6: Brian Wardle votes: 1
Option 7: Travis Diener votes: 13
Option 8: Tony Miller votes: 4
Option 9: Maurice Lucas votes: 3
Option 10: George Thompson votes: 6
Option 11: Dominic James votes: 14
Option 12: Jerel McNeal votes: 13
Option 13: Wesley Matthews votes: 28
Option 14: Steve Novak votes: 14
Option 15: Jimmy Butler votes: 14
Option 16: Ron Curry votes: 0
Option 17: Anthony Pieper votes: 1
Option 18: Jim Chones votes: 0
Option 19: Cordell Henry votes: 5
Option 20: Jim Mcilvaine votes: 1
Option 21: Mike Bargen votes: 0
Option 22: Lazar Hayward votes: 20
Option 23: Sam Worthern votes: 0
Option 24: Butch Lee votes: 7
Option 25: Earl Tatum votes: 5
Option 26: Todd Townsend votes: 1
Option 27: Robert Jackson votes: 1
Option 28: Artie Green votes: 1
Option 29: Tony Smith votes: 6
Option 30: Aaron Hutchins votes: 3
Option 31: Dwight Buycks votes: 1
Option 32: Mo Acker votes: 0
Option 33: Damon Key votes: 5
Option 34: Bernard Toone votes: 1
Option 35: Artie Green votes: 1
Option 36: Ousmane Barro votes: 4
Option 37: Faisal Abraham votes: 0
Option 38: Ron Curry votes: 1
Option 39: David Boone votes: 0
Option 40: Bob Lackey votes: 1
Option 41: Larry McNeil votes: 0
Option 42: Jerome Whitehead votes: 0
Option 43: Rube Schulz votes: 0
Option 44: Terry Reason votes: 3
Option 45: Lloyd Walton votes: 2
Option 46: Robert Byrd votes: 1
Option 47: Brian Brunkhorst votes: 2
Option 48: Terry Rand votes: 0
Option 49: Ron Glaser votes: 0
Option 50: Bob Wolf votes: 1
Option 51: Allie McGuire votes: 0
Option 52: Gary Brell votes: 0
Option 53: Jim Boylan votes: 0
Option 54: Marcus Washington votes: 0
Option 55: Mandy Johnson votes: 1
Option 56: Chris Crawford votes: 3
Option 57: Rony Eford votes: 0
Option 58: Amal McCaskill votes: 1
Option 59: John Glaser votes: 0
Option 60: Trevor Powell votes: 0
Option 61: Mike Moran votes: 0
Option 62: Russ Wittberger votes: 0
Option 63: Tom Flynn votes: 1
Option 64: Michael Wilson votes: 0
Option 65: Oliver Lee votes: 0
Option 66: Robb Logterman votes: 0
Option 67: Kerry Trotter votes: 1
Option 68: Dwayne Johnson votes: 0
Option 69: Walt Mangham votes: 1
Option 70: Paul Carbins votes: 0
Option 71: Scott Merritt votes: 0
Option 72: Joe Thomas votes: 0
Option 73: Pops Sims votes: 0
Option 74: Tom Copa votes: 1
Option 75: Walter Downing votes: 2
Option 76: Joe Nethen votes: 2
Option 77: Dean Marquardt votes: 0
Option 78: Blanton Simmons votes: 1
Option 79: Dave Delsman votes: 0
Option 80: Lloyd Moore votes: 0
Option 81: Dave Erickson votes: 0
Option 82: Dan Fitzgerald votes: 0
Option 83: Ric Cobb votes: 0
Option 84: Dave Erickson votes: 0
Option 85: Don Bugalski votes: 0
Option 86: Brad Luchini votes: 0
Option 87: Bob Hornak votes: 0
Option 88: George Frazier votes: 0
Option 89: Pat Smith votes: 0
Option 90: Grant Wittberger votes: 0
Option 91: Terrell Sclundt votes: 0
Option 92: Marc Marotta votes: 0
Option 93: Richard Nixon (really?) votes: 0
Option 94: John Cliff votes: 0
Option 95: Gerry Hopfensperger votes: 1
Option 96: Jeff Sewell votes: 0
Option 97: Dave Quabius votes: 0
Option 98: Ed Mullen votes: 0
Option 99: Gene Berce votes: 0
Option 100: William Chandler votes: 0
Option 101: Raymond Morstadt votes: 0
Option 102: Joseph (Red) Dunn votes: 0
Option 103: Richard Quinn votes: 0
Option 104: Al Delmore votes: 0
Option 105: Howard Kallenberger votes: 0
Option 106: Joseph King votes: 0
Option 107: Whitley Budrunas votes: 0
Option 108: LeRoy Andrews votes: 0
Option 109: Robert Deneen votes: 0
Option 110: Gene Gorychka votes: 0
Option 111: Adolph Gorychka votes: 0
Option 112: James O'Donnell votes: 0
Option 113: Kenneth Wiesner votes: 0
Option 114: Frank McCabe votes: 0
Option 115: James McCoy votes: 0
Option 116: Scott Christopherson votes: 1
Title: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 03:03:40 PM
75 options restricted to no current players. Hope I didn't miss anyone. Let me know if I did (don't vote, you only get 1) and I will add. Also, let me know if there were any doubles
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: greenman on January 27, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
Jimmy is on there twice.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 03:09:42 PM
Quote from: greenman on January 27, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
Jimmy is on there twice.

Yep, thanks - just saw that.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
Scott Christopherson
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
Scott Christopherson

Vetoed, but I would've accepted Ryan Amoroso.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: tower912 on January 27, 2012, 03:14:17 PM
Great.   Now I have to pick just one.    Geez.   :-\
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Goose on January 27, 2012, 03:31:21 PM
I picked the former owner of The Gym bar.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: jeffreyweee on January 27, 2012, 03:44:19 PM
Jerel!
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: PJDunn on January 27, 2012, 03:48:31 PM
No one played with more passion than Terry Reason.  Awesome guy.  Would definitely have benefited from a 3 point line. 
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: wardle2wade on January 27, 2012, 04:01:43 PM
As much as I like Wardle and Wade, Wes gets the nod from me.  Very solid player for MU, hard worker, consistent, and all around class act.  It's hard not to like the guy.  His success is something which is very much deserved. 
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: thanooj on January 27, 2012, 04:16:39 PM
As a kid I loved doc rivers and used to dream about playing in NBA with him.  But as  a 5'10" Irish kid from Iowa, I had to lower my goals.

I think I saw doc win the opening tip over benoit Benjamin at creighton when I wad little.

I also loved jerel from day one.

My dad would vote for George Thompson.  He carried a program clipping and picture of George in his wallet through high school.

My son would vote for Maurice "machine gun" acker.  He loved that guy.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: MU82 on January 27, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
Everybody please note there already is a 5-page thread with all kinds of tributes to our faves. Doesn't mean we can't keep going on this one, though it does seem redundant.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: frozena pizza on January 27, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
Move vote is that you trim the list to 10-15 names and alphabetize them.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 27, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
Everybody please note there already is a 5-page thread with all kinds of tributes to our faves. Doesn't mean we can't keep going on this one, though it does seem redundant.

Why do people get so anal about  this.  Who cares?
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: jefffla01 on January 27, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
Looks like most of the voting is for very recent MU favorites-----not much historical perspective shown.

The greats Lucas, Thompson, Lee, the Dream ect made this a formidable program----I voted for Thompson.

Guess Im just showing my age------nothing wrong voting for the recent greats-----just want us forever MU fan to remember the greats from our past.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: madtownwarrior on January 27, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
Not complete without Joe Nethen...
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: JD on January 27, 2012, 05:07:40 PM
I wish i could cast a vote for a pre 1990 great.  However i'm unfortunate not to know much if anything about them :(

I wish i could see some video footage of games, and players that I've been hearing about!
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: real chili 83 on January 27, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
How about adding Dean Marquardt....for the post accident break out game he had against Digger and Co.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: mutrainer71 on January 27, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Add Bob Wolf, the best pure shooter in the modern age and his running mate, Jimmy Burke, he of the 2 handed set shot.  They were runners up in the 67 NIT, beat Providence and Jimmy Walker, and lost to Clyde Frazier and SIU.  Also in that tourney was Jim Valvano at Rutgers and his teammate Bobby Lloyd.

Runner up-Gary the Goose Brell.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: brewcity77 on January 27, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
I voted for Steve Novak. Best pure shooter I've seen at any level. But that's not the reason. It's because as a young student at Marquette, Steve was always cordial on campus. He also was the guy that bridged eras. Shortly after I arrived, we went to the Final Four with Wade. Then we turned to crap, but Novak was steadily there for us, and was the leader when the Three Amigos showed up and lifted us back up.

For me as a younger (34) MU fan, I break MU basketball into 5 eras. There's the pre-me era, which is really anything before the 1990s. Then there's the 90s, which had a mixed bag (O'Neill good, Deane not so much). After that, the early-Crean era and the late Crean era, and finally Buzz.

I feel like we reached a height with Wade I haven't seen before in my life, and Novak was a big key to getting there. But we didn't sustain that. When we got back to building a truly quality program, Novak was the guy that was there to lead that.

Still baffled how someone picked anyone other than Novak first at Marquette Madness for a 3-point shooting contest. I loved Wade, but Super Steve is my favorite of all-time.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
Vetoed, but I would've accepted Ryan Amoroso.

Why not?  I still keep in touch with him and watch his games whenever they're televised on TWC (surprisingly quite a few of their games have been).  Great guy.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: bilsu on January 27, 2012, 06:12:12 PM
I voted for Tom Flynn. He was my first favorite player as a young lad. Also part of brotherly rivalry. I liked Flynn he liked Wolf. I liked Thompson he liked Meminger. Today I live and die MU and he lives and dies UW. In my opinion he has always been on the wrong side.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 27, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
What, no OTHER?

If I limit myself to the players I witnessed play their four years at Marquette, it's Aaron Hutchins.
Nothing hits home more than a gutsy PG who's smaller than you and is killing the opponents.
He was "me" on the court for his whole 4 years at MU. It was truly rooting for the little guy.

If I limit myself to the players I witnessed play at any period during my years at Marquette, it'll be Tony Miller.
I loved the way he ran the team from his position.

If I limit myself to all players I have watched during their Marquette careers, I'd say Dwyane Wade. He was special, even if we only had him for a limited time.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: 79Warrior on January 27, 2012, 06:28:51 PM


Not much love for the players from MU's NCAA championship. Geez, how many MU players have played in TWO NCAA championship games? How about Bo, Earl and Lloyd.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 27, 2012, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 27, 2012, 06:28:51 PM

Not much love for the players from MU's NCAA championship. Geez, how many MU players have played in TWO NCAA championship games? How about Bo, Earl and Lloyd.

I'd love to say Mo Lucas was the best ever or even Kojis.

But I haven't seen much of them in game footage.

This is where the vets need to school the young'uns on MU history...

Or just make peace that generations will always debate this barbershop/bar/water cooler topic.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 27, 2012, 06:35:18 PM
Where is Blanton Simmons?
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 27, 2012, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 27, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
Why do people get so anal about  this.  Who cares?

It's fun. Sure beats complaining about the team.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Sawsi on January 27, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
I voted Chris Crawford because he had a mean fastball.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: real chili 83 on January 27, 2012, 08:01:24 PM
This post really isn't about who's our favorite, is it? 

It's really about the history...and the passion...and the pride....we have in our basketball heritage.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 27, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
I can't believe out of 125 voters Jim Chones has zero. I would have voted for him except for Dean.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: real chili 83 on January 27, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 27, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
I can't believe out of 125 voters Jim Chones has zero. I would have voted for him except for Dean.

Don't take this wrong....show's the "flaw" in this poll.  It's still a fun post ;D
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 27, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
No Dave Delsman even though he was the only player ever to deck McGuire (or any other MU head coach) with a punch in practice?  That's just not right.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 27, 2012, 10:09:56 PM
Quote from: Sawsi on January 27, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
I voted Chris Crawford because he had a mean fastball.

Which meant that MU could carry fourteen scholarship worthy players on its roster since the baseball team (Houston?) that drafted him started picking up his tuition.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: mutrainer71 on January 27, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Add Bob Wolf, the best pure shooter in the modern age and his running mate, Jimmy Burke, he of the 2 handed set shot.  They were runners up in the 67 NIT, beat Providence and Jimmy Walker, and lost to Clyde Frazier and SIU.  Also in that tourney was Jim Valvano at Rutgers and his teammate Bobby Lloyd.

Runner up-Gary the Goose Brell.

Wolf is on there.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 06:07:02 PM
Why not?  I still keep in touch with him and watch his games whenever they're televised on TWC (surprisingly quite a few of their games have been).  Great guy.


Did he ever play a single game? Nothing against him. Go Cyclones over KU by the way!.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 27, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
How about adding Dean Marquardt....for the post accident break out game he had against Digger and Co.

Added.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 27, 2012, 06:35:18 PM
Where is Blanton Simmons?

Added.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 27, 2012, 06:35:09 PM
I'd love to say Mo Lucas was the best ever or even Kojis.

But I haven't seen much of them in game footage.

This is where the vets need to school the young'uns on MU history...

Or just make peace that generations will always debate this barbershop/bar/water cooler topic.

Its not about the best, but your favorite -- a more personal opinion that is heavily influenced by when you went to Marquette and/or when you first began following the team.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:29:07 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 27, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
Not complete without Joe Nethen...

Added.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 27, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
No Dave Delsman even though he was the only player ever to deck McGuire (or any other MU head coach) with a punch in practice?  That's just not right.

I cant tell if you're joking or not, but what the hell, we're at #78 anyways.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:24:38 PM

Did he ever play a single game? Nothing against him. Go Cyclones over KU by the way!.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/36626/scott-christopherson

Yes.  He played 87 minutes at Marquette as a freshman in 2007-2008 before transferring.  He also injured his knee very early in the season that year.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Knight Commission on January 28, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
Pops Sims is not getting any votes because he is listed as Michael Sims. Noone knows who the hell that is. Please change so we can show Pops the love.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: mugrack on January 28, 2012, 08:19:31 AM
Jim Chones has no votes, and he's on the ballot twice!
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Sawsi on January 28, 2012, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 27, 2012, 10:09:56 PM
Which meant that MU could carry fourteen scholarship worthy players on its roster since the baseball team (Houston?) that drafted him started picking up his tuition.

It was Houston.  Chris was definitely a team player in that aspect.  Hence why he should be everyone's favorite.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
Quote from: Knight Commission on January 28, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
Pops Sims is not getting any votes because he is listed as Michael Sims. Noone knows who the hell that is. Please change so we can show Pops the love.

Changed.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: jtsanto on January 28, 2012, 12:01:16 PM
I am worried about any list that contains Mike Bargen.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: jtsanto on January 28, 2012, 12:01:16 PM
I am worried about any list that contains Mike Bargen.

I think I got his name from one of the "All-Time Leaders" list on the wiki. Just trying to get who everyone may want since there have already been dozens of requests for players I have never even heard of.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 28, 2012, 12:13:17 PM
Where's Ivan Renko?
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: jtsanto on January 28, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Not critical of poll just find it funny that he is one of the top players in program history..great list
Title: Ric Cobb the only top 50 player I believe you left off your great list
Post by: bamamarquettefan on January 28, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
not to cut in on us just moving into 2nd place to jump back in history, but ...

Thanks for posting this, fantastic.  I compared the list to the Top 100 I've kept since writing the book that ranked them all.  The only possible oversight I saw was Ric Cobb who I calculated as the 40th best player ever, so would have put him in a list of 80 to choose from.  Here are the others since 1950 who i had in the top 100 but were not on your list:

40   Ric   Cobb   1969, 70
55   Dave   Erickson   1961, 62, 63
64   Don   Bugalski   1954, 55, 56
72   Jerry   Homan   1973, 74, 75
73   Brad   Luchini   1966, 67, 68
74   Bob   Hornak   1961, 62, 63
78   George   Frazier   1971, 72, 73
80   Pat   Smith   1967, 68, 69
85   Grant   Wittberger   1951, 52
86   Terrell   Schlundt   1980, 81, 82, 83
87   Marc   Marotta   1981, 82, 83, 84
88   Richard   Nixon   1961, 62, 63
91   John   Cliff   1997, 98, 99, 2000
95   Gerry   Hopfensperger   1955, 56, 57
96   Jeff   Sewell   1968, 69, 70

Obviously very few fans saw pre-1950s game, but here are the others from my top 100 not on your list because they played before 1950.  With that 100th year creeping up, i don't want to forget the pioneers either.

Highest ranked not on list - before 1950
12   Dave   Quabius   1937, 38, 39
23   Ed   Mullen   1933, 34, 35
29   Gene   Berce   1945, 47, 48
29   William   Chandler   1942, 43, 44, 45
30   Raymond   Morstadt   1934, 35, 36
31   Joseph (Red)   Dunn   1922, 23, 24, 25
32   Richard   Quinn   1922, 23, 24, 25
58   Al   Delmore   1918, 19
61   Howard   Kallenberger   1943, 44, 46
65   Joseph   King   1930, 31, 32
68   Whitley   Budrunas   1931, 32
69   LeRoy   Andrews   1929, 30, 31
71   Robert   Deneen   1938, 39, 40
75   Gene   Ronzani   1932, 33, 34
79   Adolph   Gorychka   1933, 34, 35
83   James   O'Donnell   1929, 30, 31
98   Kenneth   Wiesner   1945, 46, 47
99   Frank   McCabe   1946, 47, 48, 49
100   James   McCoy   1957, 58, 59
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: MU82 on January 28, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
You know a bunch of young'uns are on this board when no player before the Wade/Diener era gets more than a dozen votes!

Obviously, Al had some incredible, incredible players, many of them better than anybody since other than Wade. Still, I guess we, um, "more mature" MU folks can't expect the younger crowd to vote for players whose careers ended before they were born!
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: romey on January 28, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
MU I 'm with you.  I feel old.  I voted Butch Lee - National Player of the Year in at least one or two polls the year we won it all (Phil Ford of UNC was the other player garnering POY honors).  But we beat Ford for the championship so I'll take that any day.  And only 6 votes for Butch.  But this is a favorite player poll, so I guess the results illustrate the age of the scoopers, right?
Title: Re: Ric Cobb the only top 50 player I believe you left off your great list
Post by: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
F*** it. Why not? We're at #82 anyways.


Quote from: bamamarquettefan on January 28, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
not to cut in on us just moving into 2nd place to jump back in history, but ...

Thanks for posting this, fantastic.  I compared the list to the Top 100 I've kept since writing the book that ranked them all.  The only possible oversight I saw was Ric Cobb who I calculated as the 40th best player ever, so would have put him in a list of 80 to choose from.  Here are the others since 1950 who i had in the top 100 but were not on your list:

40   Ric   Cobb   1969, 70
55   Dave   Erickson   1961, 62, 63
64   Don   Bugalski   1954, 55, 56
72   Jerry   Homan   1973, 74, 75
73   Brad   Luchini   1966, 67, 68
74   Bob   Hornak   1961, 62, 63
78   George   Frazier   1971, 72, 73
80   Pat   Smith   1967, 68, 69
85   Grant   Wittberger   1951, 52
86   Terrell   Schlundt   1980, 81, 82, 83
87   Marc   Marotta   1981, 82, 83, 84
88   Richard   Nixon   1961, 62, 63
91   John   Cliff   1997, 98, 99, 2000
95   Gerry   Hopfensperger   1955, 56, 57
96   Jeff   Sewell   1968, 69, 70

Obviously very few fans saw pre-1950s game, but here are the others from my top 100 not on your list because they played before 1950.  With that 100th year creeping up, i don't want to forget the pioneers either.

Highest ranked not on list - before 1950
12   Dave   Quabius   1937, 38, 39
23   Ed   Mullen   1933, 34, 35
29   Gene   Berce   1945, 47, 48
29   William   Chandler   1942, 43, 44, 45
30   Raymond   Morstadt   1934, 35, 36
31   Joseph (Red)   Dunn   1922, 23, 24, 25
32   Richard   Quinn   1922, 23, 24, 25
58   Al   Delmore   1918, 19
61   Howard   Kallenberger   1943, 44, 46
65   Joseph   King   1930, 31, 32
68   Whitley   Budrunas   1931, 32
69   LeRoy   Andrews   1929, 30, 31
71   Robert   Deneen   1938, 39, 40
75   Gene   Ronzani   1932, 33, 34
79   Adolph   Gorychka   1933, 34, 35
83   James   O'Donnell   1929, 30, 31
98   Kenneth   Wiesner   1945, 46, 47
99   Frank   McCabe   1946, 47, 48, 49
100   James   McCoy   1957, 58, 59

Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: romey on January 28, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
MU I 'm with you.  I feel old.  I voted Butch Lee - National Player of the Year in at least one or two polls the year we won it all (Phil Ford of UNC was the other player garnering POY honors).  But we beat Ford for the championship so I'll take that any day.  And only 6 votes for Butch.  But this is a favorite player poll, so I guess the results illustrate the age of the scoopers, right?

If this was pinned or something at top for long enough, allowing more of the older MU fans that dont check-in that often to see it and vote, it may even out a bit. But yeah, most of us are of the post 1990 classes. But if I had to do it over again, I think I may have made it a "Top 3" and given everyone 3 votes.
Title: Re: Ric Cobb the only top 50 player I believe you left off your great list
Post by: wadesworld on January 28, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
F*** it. Why not? We're at #82 anyways.



Christopherson

:-)
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: wadesworld on January 28, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:31:50 PM
If this was pinned or something at top for long enough, allowing more of the older MU fans that dont check-in that often to see it and vote, it may even out a bit. But yeah, most of us are of the post 1990 classes. But if I had to do it over again, I think I may have made it a "Top 3" and given everyone 3 votes.

Yeah I like that.
Title: Re: Ric Cobb the only top 50 player I believe you left off your great list
Post by: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 28, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
Christopherson

:-)

Have a hard time putting in someone who transferred, esp one with less than 100 minutes. He really is an Iowa St. Cyclone (awesome win btw! Hate KU), but I can see you're pretty persistent.
Title: Re: Ric Cobb the only top 50 player I believe you left off your great list
Post by: wadesworld on January 29, 2012, 12:20:53 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 28, 2012, 10:39:46 PM
Have a hard time putting in someone who transferred, esp one with less than 100 minutes. He really is an Iowa St. Cyclone (awesome win btw! Hate KU), but I can see you're pretty persistent.

Hahaha yessssss.  Thanks.  More votes than many ;-)
Title: Poll results - OH NO HE DIDN'T
Post by: Hoopaloop on January 29, 2012, 02:05:24 PM
For fun, yeah, I'll do it.

The top 10 vote getters (3 way tie for 5th)

1) Dwyane Wade 15%
2) Wes Matthews 11.1%
3) Lazar Hayward 8.1%
4) Dominc James 6.0%
5) Travis Diener 5.1%
5) Jimmy Butler 5.1%
5) Doc Rivers 5.1%
8) Jerel McNeal 4.3%
8) Steve Novak 4.3%
10) Butch Lee 3%


My conclusions


  • People have short memories or the age group of this board is young to have so many players in the 2000's rank in the top 5

  • Crean couldn't recruit quality but apparently he recruited most of everyone's favorite players.  The top 5 players all recruited by Crean (yes, and two others that tied for five that were recruited by other coaches).  Seven of the top 10.  Why do we hate this guy again for bringing that kind of talent to MU?

  • Bo Ellis, Dean Meminger, George Thompson combined would not have finished in the top 3.
    Jim Chones got 0 votes?  That is surprising.  Maybe because he left early, we sure hate those players and coaches that leave early from MU.

Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 30, 2012, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on January 27, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
I cant tell if you're joking or not, but what the hell, we're at #78 anyways.

I Remember Al McGuire by Mike Towle in Chapter 5, In His Own Words, recalls the following.

On being knocked down by a punch thrown in practice by Marquette player Dave Delsman, who was responding to a McGuire challenge:

Can you imagine that little squirt putting me on the floor?  I should have just hit him on the top of the head and been done with it.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: ringout on January 30, 2012, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 27, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
How about adding Dean Marquardt....for the post accident break out game he had against Digger and Co.

Deano picked a good time for his best game as a Warrior.  Without his game, Doc's bomb would have been for naught.
Title: Re: Favorite MU Player - THE POLL
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 30, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
Just put all the players on the list who have ever played for MU. After all its your favorite player, not the best.
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