We may have not been in the Big East title hunt every year, but it's impressive how consistently good MU has been since joining.
Assuming Pitt and Nova miss the NCAA's (and we make the field), Marquette will be the only Big East school to have made the NCAA's every year since the present-day BE formed in 05-06.
Here's the list for consecutive tourney appearances... http://mcubed.net/ncaab/strkr64c.shtml
1 Kansas 22 years - 1990..2011
2 Duke 16 years - 1996..2011
3 Michigan State 14 years - 1998..2011
4 Gonzaga 13 years - 1999..2011
4 Texas 13 years - 1999..2011
4 Wisconsin 13 years - 1999..2011
7 Pittsburgh 10 years - 2002..2011
8 Villanova 7 years - 2005..2011
9 Marquette 6 years - 2006..2011
9 Tennessee 6 years - 2006..2011
9 Texas A&M 6 years - 2006..2011
If Texas also misses the field with Pitt and Nova, MU would have the 6th longest NCAA streak.
Here's to enjoying the ride...
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 23, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
We may have not been in the Big East title hunt every year, but it's impressive how consistently good MU has been since joining.
Assuming Pitt and Nova miss the NCAA's (and we make the field), Marquette will be the only Big East school to have made the NCAA's every year since the present-day BE formed in 05-06.
Here's the list for consecutive tourney appearances... http://mcubed.net/ncaab/strkr64c.shtml
1 Kansas 22 years - 1990..2011
2 Duke 16 years - 1996..2011
3 Michigan State 14 years - 1998..2011
4 Gonzaga 13 years - 1999..2011
4 Texas 13 years - 1999..2011
4 Wisconsin 13 years - 1999..2011
7 Pittsburgh 10 years - 2002..2011
8 Villanova 7 years - 2005..2011
9 Marquette 6 years - 2006..2011
9 Tennessee 6 years - 2006..2011
9 Texas A&M 6 years - 2006..2011
If Texas also misses the field with Pitt and Nova, MU would have the 6th longest NCAA streak.
Here's to enjoying the ride...
Tennessee and Texas A&M also likely to miss field this year, breaking their ties with MU.
Had Marquette won one more conference game last season, MU and PITT would be the only teams this season to have won 10 games every year in the modern Big East.
Marquette's streak ended last season and I'm assuming PITT's will end this year.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 23, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Had Marquette won one more conference game last season, MU and PITT would be the only teams this season to have won 10 games every year in the modern Big East.
Marquette's streak ended last season and I'm assuming PITT's will end this year.
On that note... does anyone know how we rank in the BE for total BE wins in the last 6 years? I imagine we would have to be top 3 on that list as well.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on January 23, 2012, 01:44:27 PM
On that note... does anyone know how we rank in the BE for total BE wins in the last 6 years? I imagine we would have to be top 3 on that list as well.
Surprisingly only tied for 7th. Thanks to the Louisville board who put together a compilation... http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=8604623
Apologies to the MU Insider board where I found the Louisville link. If these stats were compiled by the MU Insiders, I wouldn't post this link... thought it's okay to share since it's on the free Lou board.
From the Louisville Board ....
Big East regular season overall record 2005-06 through 1/21/12:
Team W L Pct
1. Pittsburgh 75 36 0.676
2. Louisville 74 37 0.667
3. Syracuse 71 41 0.634
4. Georgetown 71 41 0.634
5. West Virginia 70 41 0.631
6. Villanova 70 42 0.625
7. Connecticut 68 43 0.613
8. Marquette 68 43 0.613
9. Notre Dame 67 44 0.604
10. Cincinnati 49 62 0.441
11. Seton Hall 47 64 0.423
12. St. John's 43 69 0.384
13. Providence 38 73 0.342
14. Rutgers 28 83 0.252
15. South Florida 27 83 0.245
16. DePaul 23 87 0.209
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Yes we are tied for 7th but note 3rd to 9th (bolded) are only separated by 4 games. We can pass a few teams before the end of the year.
Is anyone else shocked to see that even over 7 seasons, DePaul has still somehow managed to win 23 Big East games?
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 23, 2012, 04:39:09 PM
Is anyone else shocked to see that even over 7 seasons, DePaul has still somehow managed to win 23 Big East games?
No because 3 or 4 conference wins per year isn't very many.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on January 23, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
No because 3 or 4 conference wins per year isn't very many.
They were good (like .500, 8 or 9 wins) in '05 or '06. That helped them a lot.
Seeing the demise of Pitt this year shows how thin the "Margin for Error" ,as Buzz would say, is in the BE. A down year recruiting, or the wrong guy gets hurt and things can fall apart in a hurry. MU is building the kind of consistency that I honestly did not think was possible for us to acheive as a private college in a world dominated by the big state football schools. It would not have surprised anybody outside of Milwaukee if MU's career Big East record would have been more like Seton Hall's. Enjoy the ride.
I was looking at the Providence message board trying to find a stream for the last game and there was a really humorous post about how they should get to a point to "consistently beat MU."
I get the impression that a lot of people don't realize how successful MU has been in the BEAST. It's damn impressive.
I think what hurts MU's reputation for consistency is we might be the only BE team in the top 9 that has not finished in the top 4 in any year.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 23, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
I think what hurts MU's reputation for consistency is we might be the only BE team in the top 9 that has not finished in the top 4 in any year.
I think we finished top 4 in '05-'06. I remembered getting what was the crucial single bye at the time then falling to G'Town
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 23, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
I think what hurts MU's reputation for consistency is we might be the only BE team in the top 9 that has not finished in the top 4 in any year.
I was trying to put my finger on it .. you did. We're in the top half, but only by being consistently a bride's maid.
I'd be curious to see that table with NCAA wins as well.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 23, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
I was trying to put my finger on it .. you did. We're in the top half, but only by being consistently a bride's maid.
I'd be curious to see that table with NCAA wins as well.
Yes, always a bridesmaid but never the maid of honor or the bride.
Even if we finished in the top 4 six years, as noted above, my point still stands. We are a good team but never a great team. So, those that only half pay attention (which is almost everyone) thinks we are no different than Providence, Cincy, St. Johns or Seton Hall.
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 23, 2012, 04:39:09 PM
Is anyone else shocked to see that even over 7 seasons, DePaul has still somehow managed to win 23 Big East games?
I often wondered why Depaul was invited and not Memphis.
If MU makes the Big Dance this season under Buzz, he will have been...
- Only the second coach in MU's history to take a team to four straight NCAA appearances
- The only MU coach whose teams have made the tourney his first four years
I cannot wait for the litmus test fifth year. ;D
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 23, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
If MU makes the Big Dance this season under Buzz, he will have been...
- Only the second coach in MU's history to take a team to four straight NCAA appearances
- The only MU coach whose teams have made the tourney his first four years
I cannot wait for the litmus test fifth year. ;D
+1 bail bond
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 23, 2012, 07:38:24 PM
So, those that only half pay attention (which is almost everyone) thinks we are no different than Providence, Cincy, St. Johns or Seton Hall.
It may feel that way to us sometimes, but I completely disagree with this statement.
I travel just about weekly across the US... whenever the conversation comes to Marquette with even a remotely casual fan, the first thing out of everyone's mouth is "Yeah, you guys are always making the tournament. I always see you on my brackets." Have even heard, "You guys get in the sw16 just about every other year, right?"
Simple fact is that everyone fills out brackets... even if people don't follow college hoops, there's a good chance they filled out a bracket on espn.com for a freeroll at $50k, a TV, or even just bragging rights at the office.
Being in the tourney 9 of the last 11 years, makes a difference in the casual fan's perception. They have to make a conscience decision whether to pick MU each year, and that resonates with them. They rarely see PC, Cincy, STJ, or SHU on their free bracket.
Disclaimer... Not sure how long this perception has been out there, but I have heard it consistently for at least a couple years from many people in different parts of the US.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 23, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
It may feel that way to us sometimes, but I completely disagree with this statement.
I travel just about weekly across the US... whenever the conversation comes to Marquette with even a remotely casual fan, the first thing out of everyone's mouth is "Yeah, you guys are always making the tournament. I always see you on my brackets." Have even heard, "You guys get in the sw16 just about every other year, right?"
Simple fact is that everyone fills out brackets... even if people don't follow college hoops, there's a good chance they filled out a bracket on espn.com for a freeroll at $50k, a TV, or even just bragging rights at the office.
Being in the tourney 9 of the last 11 years, makes a difference in the casual fan's perception. They have to make a conscience decision whether to pick MU each year, and that resonates with them. They rarely see PC, Cincy, STJ, or SHU on their free bracket.
Disclaimer... Not sure how long this perception has been out there, but I have heard it consistently for at least a couple years from many people in different parts of the US.
Think you are on the money with the fact that people need to think about MU each year (if only for about two seconds) while filling out a bracket. Makes a bigger difference than we probably recognize amongst the general American public.
Similar to Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. Small school gets in the tourney every year, makes some noise every few, all helps to make an good impression.
Not to mention, those inside the sport respect Buzz's coaching style and think his teams are tough and hard working. When was the last time you didn't hear that mentioned on a broadcast?
To compare w SH, Prov, Cincy is silly, tournament berths are all that matters and we have lots to their little.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 23, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
It may feel that way to us sometimes, but I completely disagree with this statement.
I travel just about weekly across the US... whenever the conversation comes to Marquette with even a remotely casual fan, the first thing out of everyone's mouth is "Yeah, you guys are always making the tournament. I always see you on my brackets." Have even heard, "You guys get in the sw16 just about every other year, right?"
Simple fact is that everyone fills out brackets...
couldn't agree more. perhaps both arguments/thoughts are correct, depending on if the casual fan follows the BEAST or not. i couldn't tell you who won the B10, ACC, etc. in years past, but i can remember or recognize a college based upon its NCAA success/appearance.
My argument was in response to the Providence comment that they should consistently beat MU. I was arguing that since we have not been a top 4 team, but very consistent nevertheless, a causal BE fan, like from SH, SJU, and Prov might conclude they should consistently beat us.
Only BE fans paying attention really know this is not true.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 23, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
It may feel that way to us sometimes, but I completely disagree with this statement.
I travel just about weekly across the US... whenever the conversation comes to Marquette with even a remotely casual fan, the first thing out of everyone's mouth is "Yeah, you guys are always making the tournament. I always see you on my brackets." Have even heard, "You guys get in the sw16 just about every other year, right?"
Simple fact is that everyone fills out brackets... even if people don't follow college hoops, there's a good chance they filled out a bracket on espn.com for a freeroll at $50k, a TV, or even just bragging rights at the office.
Being in the tourney 9 of the last 11 years, makes a difference in the casual fan's perception. They have to make a conscience decision whether to pick MU each year, and that resonates with them. They rarely see PC, Cincy, STJ, or SHU on their free bracket.
Disclaimer... Not sure how long this perception has been out there, but I have heard it consistently for at least a couple years from many people in different parts of the US.
I hear the same stuff. And even last year I knew we had a draw capable of playing into the second weekend but as a fan I was weary of our inconsistent play. Yet, I knew loads of ppl who didnt hesitate to pick us over even syrcause as their upset pick based soley off seeing us in every year.
Marquette is the perennial "dangerous" team .. the "dark horse" .. the "stealth" team. All that means is that on a good day, we could beat anyone. Could win 3, could be bounced after one.
Code words for "inconsistent."
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 24, 2012, 08:07:09 AM
Marquette is the perennial "dangerous" team .. the "dark horse" .. the "stealth" team. All that means is that on a good day, we could beat anyone. Could win 3, could be bounced after one.
Code words for "inconsistent."
Or, "consistently good, intermitantly great". ;)
.. Not over 40 minutes, though.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 23, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Had Marquette won one more conference game last season, MU and PITT would be the only teams this season to have won 10 games every year in the modern Big East.
Marquette's streak ended last season and I'm assuming PITT's will end this year.
All the streaks dovetail, but the 10 wins and top 5 were the ones that always impressed me. Shame they stopped.
Having those throughout this version of the Big East would have been a big accomplishment with it all ending next year.