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Thoughts???

bull crap. The Big Ten is better. Sorry guys.

I think the Big Ten is overrated this year. The only reason they are getting such love is because they don't really have many crap teams, which is a fair point, but the top of the Big Ten just isn't that strong. tOSU and Michigan State are good teams, but is there anyone else worthy of the top four seed lines?

Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan are all tourney teams and solid teams, but none of them are close to being truly high-level teams right now. Northwestern should also be a tourney team, and constructed a great schedule, but haven't really done anything to prove they are really all that good.

Past that, what do you have? Minnesota's a bubble team, Purdue's not much better than that. Nebraska, Penn State, and Iowa pretty much suck. Pound for pound, the Big Ten is strong because only three teams are really garbage, but I hardly think a team with 2 legitimate Final Four contenders should be rubber-stamped as the "best conference" just because of computer numbers.

I think the Big 12 is really good. Baylor is better right now than any team in the Big Ten, and I think Kansas is too. Missouri gives another solid Final Four contender. K-State, Texas, and Iowa State all look like tournament teams, and Oklahoma is only one or two upsets away from the bubble. OSU is decent, and you really only have 2 teams that suck in TAMU and Texas Tech.

I'd vote for the Big 12, with the Big Ten and Big East scrapping for second.

I voted for Big12, because right now (January 21)I think they have 3 or 4 sweet 16 teams. The Big East has 1, the Big 10 has 2 or 3, ACC 2 or 3, SEC 2 or 3. The thing about the Big East is that a lot of their teams lack consistantcy. The ones that become more consistant between now an March will rise to the top of the Big East and I suspect this Big East will get more than 2 teams in sweet 16 last year.

Marquette won @ Wisconsin

Penn st beat USF

Seton Hall lost to Northwestern

Notre Dame lost to Indiana

Depaul lost to Minnesota
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Really no proof based off of games this year lol...

I voted for the Big Ten (thinking Big 12 was second) but I regret it now.   I think it is fair to say the Big Ten, Big 12, and Big East are the Top Three conferences this year.  Look at their record against each other....

Big East 5-12 (2 home, 3 away, 12 neutral)

Big Ten 6-5 (4 home, 2 away, 5 neutral)

Big Twelve 11-5 (3 home, 4 away, 9 neutral)

Big 12 looks the best.  I think losing Colorado and Nebraska has really made them look good in basketball.  Just few bad teams in that league now.

Quote from: JoBo2756 on January 21, 2012, 02:58:47 AM
bull crap. The Big Ten is better. Sorry guys.

All in the wording of the question ... you said best OVERALL conference.  I voted BE because the bottom of the BE this year is much better even though the top is not as good as last year.

Now if you asked which conference has the better teams, I would have voted differently.

I voted for the BE because of the quantity of talent.  Most of the BE teams are exciting to watch, specially MU.  The Big Ten is slow and boring.  We have fallen asleep watching the last four Badger games.  The games are slow and dull.

I have suffered through enough B1? games this year to think that they are the best conference.     MSU and tOSU have a chance to be special, beyond that.....Michigan is good but can stink in a hurry.  IU has to beat somebody on the road other than PSU to be taken seriously.   Minnesota is only a couple points better than DePaul at home.    Illinois is erratic and lousy away from home.   Wiscy....nah.    Northwestern may actually make the dance for the first time this year.   nuff said.     If this is the best college basketball has to offer, then college basketball needs help.

Quote from: msbjim on January 21, 2012, 10:19:58 AM
I voted for the BE because of the quantity of talent.  Most of the BE teams are exciting to watch, specially MU.  The Big Ten is slow and boring.  We have fallen asleep watching the last four Badger games.  The games are slow and dull.

My friends and family who are Badger fans are realizing this more and more when I point it out to them.

SEC.  Kentucky, Vandy, Miss St., Florida, Bama at the top.  LSU, Ole Miss in the middle.  UT coming together on the bottom.

I went with the Big Ten because Jay Bilas said so again today.  :D

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 21, 2012, 10:01:06 AM
All in the wording of the question ... you said best OVERALL conference.  I voted BE because the bottom of the BE this year is much better even though the top is not as good as last year.

Now if you asked which conference has the better teams, I would have voted differently.

Huh?  The bottom of the Big East has 7 teams in the RPI over 100.  Almost half the conference.  The Big Ten has three, or 25% of their conference in a similar position.

The top of the Big Ten (top 50 teams) has a higher percentage than the Big East and their bottom teams are nowhere near as bad as ours.

I had Big Ten 1 and it isn't even close.  If you rate it as the question asks, the overall conference, it doesn't seem to be any other conclusion. 

In looking at every rating system in the country   http://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm   I cannot find where the Big East is the best.  In fact, in many of them they are rated third or fourth.  When half of our conference is as bad as ours is, it is going to drag down the rest.

The Big Ten isn't stylish and may be boring, but they are winning at a more consistent rate than anyone else this season.

Quote from: Hoopaloop on January 21, 2012, 02:17:53 PM
I had Big Ten 1 and it isn't even close.  If you rate it as the question asks, the overall conference, it doesn't seem to be any other conclusion. 

Any other conclusion?  I would say there could be two conclusions:  Big Ten or Big Twelve.  If the Big Ten is best, they are barely the best.  The Big Ten is 6-5 versus the Big East and Big Twelve and they have had the highest percentage of home games (4 of 11: 36%).  Whilst the Big 12 is an impressive 11-5 with only 18% of the games at home.

My conclusion: Big Twelve is better.  Not by much, Big Ten a close second.

Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 21, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
Any other conclusion?  I would say there could be two conclusions:  Big Ten or Big Twelve.  If the Big Ten is best, they are barely the best.  The Big Ten is 6-5 versus the Big East and Big Twelve and they have had the highest percentage of home games (4 of 11: 36%).  Whilst the Big 12 is an impressive 11-5 with only 18% of the games at home.

My conclusion: Big Twelve is better.  Not by much, Big Ten a close second.

Big 12 is good this year.  I don't see how anyone can come up with a conclusion that the Big East is better than the Big Ten this year.  I have Big Ten, Big 12, Big East.  People saying Big East is number overall conference apparently don't wish to really look at overall, but selective criteria.  Watching UCONN get waxed today just adds to the fact that we're not the elite conference this year.  This will prove itself out in the number of bids the conference receives as a percentage of it's league.