This came across @MarquetteHoops last night - we are apparently among those recruiting him along with Arizona, Pitt, Oregon and New Mexico.
He is a Tucson native, originally signed with UTEP, but went JUCO when UTEP had a coaching change. Looks like he has filled out nicely and is now averaging about 19/7.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4323470
Here's his Scout HS profile.
He was class of 2010 according to scout. I suppose that means he has done his 2 years of JUCO and is now class of 2012. I wonder if Buzz intends to oversign 2012.
http://www.goapaches.com/?page_id=4718 (His profile on the Cochise College website.)
Why doesn't the Tucson native just take his official visit in the next day or two? Ah, Buzz will focus on a different player going forward.
Off a link to the website above
2011-2012 stats so far.
Name GP FG Made 3pt FT TP PPG
Matt Korchek 18.0 115.0 0.0 62.0 292.0 16.222
Interesting that he hasn't made a 3pt field goal this season.
Quote from: downtown85 on January 19, 2012, 08:28:08 AM
He was class of 2010 according to scout. I suppose that means he has done his 2 years of JUCO and is now class of 2012. I wonder if Buzz intends to oversign 2012.
Hard to tell since we are just going on the player's word. Who knows how hot Buzz may or may not be after this guy.
But look at the schools that are recruiting him
Here's his gamelog and stats for this season:
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1671&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=118789&athleteid=315654 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1671&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=118789&athleteid=315654)
Nice game on 12/3 with 30 points on 14-17 FG.
Would love to have the kid....send Durley to Prep school for a year. Alows him another year to "prep" and then can still come in with 4 years of eligibility
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on January 19, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
Would love to have the kid....send Durley to Prep school for a year. Alows him another year to "prep" and then can still come in with 4 years of eligibility
Send him to Howard JC for 2 years, he will not see time till he is a junior with both bigs back for 2 years!
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 19, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
Send him to Howard JC for 2 years, he will not see time till he is a junior with both bigs back for 2 years!
that makes zero sense....he would then come in with zero experience at MU as a Junior and be expected to contribute?? Dumb... need him on campus to develop for a year or two before being needed. Maybe JUCO for one year then on campus for a year before being counted on. But why burn a year of eligibility at Juco. He can continue to develop at a prep of Buzz's choosing.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on January 19, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
that makes zero sense....he would then come in with zero experience at MU as a Junior and be expected to contribute?? Dumb... need him on campus to develop for a year or two before being needed. Maybe JUCO for one year then on campus for a year before being counted on. But why burn a year of eligibility at Juco. He can continue to develop at a prep of Buzz's choosing.
the scholarship situation right now is pretty full, unless someone is leaving you only have 1 open schooly in 2013. Cadougan is gone then, you need a point guard to
take his spot. MU is in on a few of those. In 2014, you can take Durley and another center. If you had more openings then Durley can sit on the bench for the year, right
now you do not. It seems that most of kids that are at MU seem happy to be there, I am talking about Jones and Anderson, so hopefully no one transfers.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on January 19, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
Would love to have the kid....send Durley to Prep school for a year. Alows him another year to "prep" and then can still come in with 4 years of eligibility
The only problem is there is currently no scholarship for Durley (or Nunn for that matter) available for 2013-14.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 19, 2012, 11:03:44 AM
The only problem is there is currently no scholarship for Durley (or Nunn for that matter) available for 2013-14.
False. There IS a scholarship open for Durley in 2013-2014 the way things stand right now. Burton is slated to take the only remaining scholarship in that class (again, the way things stand right now with Otule hopefully getting a 6th year).
If Korchek were to come this year and Durley did a year of prep, and everything else remained as-is, then yes, there would be no room for Durley. However, that's a WHOLE LOT of ifs.
1. We have no open scholarships for either 2012-13 or 2013-14 *if* everyone shows AND there are no transfers.
2. Those are REALLY BIG "ifs."
3. We have no real clue how much Buzz is recruiting for 2012. It is clear that he is still recruiting for 2013.
It would be nice to add a mature PF for next year. Pretty big hole there, even if Wilson continues to improve.
I don't think Erik Williams was a world beater, but it's too bad he's not on the squad for next season. Would be nice to have a Senior PF.
Anyways, this kid might be a great option, especially if anybody leaves in the off season. Always nice to replace an upperclassman with and upperclassman.
Keeps the roster balanced.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on January 19, 2012, 11:36:28 AM
Anyways, this kid might be a great option, especially if anybody leaves in the off season. Always nice to replace an upperclassman with and upperclassman.
Keeps the roster balanced.
Actually, it could make the roster even more unbalanced. There are currently 4 guys in his class plus Jake Thomas and 4 guys in the class below.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on January 19, 2012, 11:36:28 AM
It would be nice to add a mature PF for next year. Pretty big hole there, even if Wilson continues to improve.
I don't think Erik Williams was a world beater, but it's too bad he's not on the squad for next season. Would be nice to have a Senior PF.
Anyways, this kid might be a great option, especially if anybody leaves in the off season. Always nice to replace an upperclassman with and upperclassman.
Keeps the roster balanced.
I agree that he would bring nice balance from a size perspective, BUT, balance on a roster also includes classes. If this kid were to show up with two years of eligibility left, we would officially have J. Wilson (6'7"), Otule (6'11"), Gardner (6'9"), and Korchek (6'9") in the junior class. While I would LOVE to have that kind of battle-tested size on our roster, but it'd be pretty tough to replace four big bodies in the same recruiting class two years later...
We'd lose 4, but we'd still have Durley and Steve Taylor. We'd need to bring in some length, but at least we'd have 2 replacements in place.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 19, 2012, 01:46:18 PM
We'd lose 4, but we'd still have Durley and Steve Taylor. We'd need to bring in some length, but at least we'd have 2 replacements in place.
Don't forget Juan Anderson, who would be a senior by that time.
It's still hard to understand that Durley is not getting minutes on his high school team. It doesn't make sense.
Quote from: msbjim on January 19, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
It's still hard to understand that Durley is not getting minutes on his high school team. It doesn't make sense.
Put freshman year at OSU Greg Oden on MU with a healthy Chris Otule. Does Otule get off the bench?
Quote from: wadesworld on January 19, 2012, 04:25:06 PM
Put freshman year at OSU Greg Oden on MU with a healthy Chris Otule. Does Otule get off the bench?
Yeah, cuz Oden only played about 30 mpg. A better analogy would be to put Oden on Otule's high school team. Then I think the answer is probably no. But I have no idea what Durley's situation is, aside from Ridley being ahead of him. All I know is that his high school coach was also Otule's, and he said Durley is further along than Chris at the same time, and Buzz trusted him enough (along with his own evaluation) to offer the kid a scholarship.
If it weren't against NCAA rules, I would honestly be sending Aaron's family a fruit-basket or something just to show our appreciation. I don't get why so many on here (who collectively represents .01% of Marquette fans) want to run this kid off or question why he isn't getting any PT.
Why can't some people comprehend how difficult it is to recruit big men and why taking on projects is not such a bad idea (especially given that two projects have already panned out under Buzz)? Take for instance:
1) How many of the 2012 Scout 100 are taller than Durley? Eight
2) How many of the 2013 Scout 100 are 6-10 or taller? Two
3) Of the 23 four- and five-star 2012 recruits at C, how many are 6-9 or shorter? Twelve (i.e. nearly half the class is "undersized")
4) How many stars is Duke's top 2012 recruit at C? Trick question.... Duke doesn't have any commits at C currently.
Bonus - How many players on Duke's roster over 6-9 do not end in "Plumlee"? One
Considering there are 340-some D-I teams competing for big men, and only two or three dozen (at most) exist on average in any given year, it's kind of idiotic to want to run off a 6'-10.5" athlete before most of us even see him play.
Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.
At the time, I think we would have.
Quote from: Benny B on January 19, 2012, 05:01:07 PM
If it weren't against NCAA rules, I would honestly be sending Aaron's family a fruit-basket or something just to show our appreciation. I don't get why so many on here (who collectively represents .01% of Marquette fans) want to run this kid off or question why he isn't getting any PT.
Frankly if Buzz wants him, that is good enough for me...and it should be good enough for everyone else.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 19, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
At the time, I think we would have.
Murray, you got any eligibility left?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 19, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
At the time, I think we would have.
He committed early. Had he waited until his senior season, I am not so sure we would have.
Give me Durley. Not playing behind a top 10 recruit? Meh. He is ranked among the top recruits in Texas. He is 6'11 270. We don't need him to star as a freshman. Get him here, let him develop against a couple of decent bigs without any pressure. Let him learn the schemes and let Todd work his magic. I honestly don't see the downside. On a smaller scale, a friend's daughter was the 11th player as a senior on her high school team, which currently has won 86 of its last 91 games. Played around 30 minutes for the season. Her first year in college, she was the first post player off of the bench at a DII school. She is starting as a junior. Two more words: Amal McCaskill.
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
Two more words: Amal McCaskill.
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow. He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill. I'm all for bringing him in, but let's be realistic.
Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on January 19, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow. He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill. I'm all for bringing him in, but let's be realistic.
Mbao, Roseboro and McMorrow were all late signees...I mean Liam was signed in July. (And would likely still be here if healthy.) So in all of them were likely more desperation cases more than anything else.
Buzz was on Durley early and signed him early. This is much more like the Otule signing than anything else. A big, defensive center.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 19, 2012, 09:12:12 PM
Mbao, Roseboro and McMorrow were all late signees...I mean Liam was signed in July. (And would likely still be here if healthy.) So in all of them were likely more desperation cases more than anything else.
Buzz was on Durley early and signed him early. This is much more like the Otule signing than anything else. A big, defensive center.
With two eyes.
Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on January 19, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow. He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill. I'm all for bringing him in, but let's be realistic.
Fine, let's look at Buzz's Project Big history:
1) Mbao never panned out... chalk that up in the L column.
2) Gardner and Otule definitely go in the W column.
3) Liam never played due to health issues; it's hard to say whether he would have developed better at MU, but he has found himself a reserve role at TTU, something that probably has more to do with continuing health issues than player development. At worst, I call this a no-decision.
I'm willing to give Buzz a pass on Roseboro... it was a recruiting mistake on both sides that was realized before school started; also, let's be honest here and consider that this was Buzz's first year recruiting his own class at a major D-I program (not that it's an excuse, but it should be a consideration). Nevertheless, Roseboro never did play at MU and there's no telling how he might have developed under Buzz. However, even if you consider that an L, Buzz is 2-2 so far.
In other words, based on Buzz's history, Aaron has at least a 50% chance of developing into a serviceable big at MU and a 25% chance of being a Jack-O-Lantern. I'll play those odds any day.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.
Personally, I would only offer a sophomore at the guard position (too many variables in development with forwards and centers their last two years of HS), but considering he
was a top 10 recruit when he signed, there still would have been a voice in my head saying "go for it."
I'd have taken Anderson. I'd have taken that big at UWGB. They don't have to be stars. The bigs have to keep other bigs from being stars. Just be able to occupy the other and not get dominated, giving us a chance. Otule excels at this.
If the staff and Durley decide gettting a year at a Good Juco to get playing time makes sense and he decided to goto the class of 2013, a Juco like this that could step in and get minutes at the 4 would be just what we need. We could be in real trouble rebounding next year. A PF that can play 20 mins might be the Diff of us making the tournament or not. S Taylor is going to get minutes but he will need a year to add weight. I agree having 3 bigs in one class is a problem but better to have it then the other option.
Quote from: kmwtrucks on January 20, 2012, 10:01:51 AM
If the staff and Durley decide gettting a year at a Good Juco to get playing time makes sense and he decided to goto the class of 2013, a Juco like this that could step in and get minutes at the 4 would be just what we need. We could be in real trouble rebounding next year. A PF that can play 20 mins might be the Diff of us making the tournament or not. S Taylor is going to get minutes but he will need a year to add weight. I agree having 3 bigs in one class is a problem but better to have it then the other option.
Of course the risk to MU is that he goes elsewhere after his one Juco year. The risk to Durley is an injury or that he plays poorly.
I'd just bring him here and have him practice everyday with Otule and Gardner.
Quote from: Jamailman on January 19, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Yeah, cuz Oden only played about 30 mpg. A better analogy would be to put Oden on Otule's high school team. Then I think the answer is probably no. But I have no idea what Durley's situation is, aside from Ridley being ahead of him. All I know is that his high school coach was also Otule's, and he said Durley is further along than Chris at the same time, and Buzz trusted him enough (along with his own evaluation) to offer the kid a scholarship.
If I were a coach, and I had Oden and Otule (both D1 caliber centers), they would both be playing at the same time.
If you have 2 D1 players at the same position (at the same age), you'll figure out a way to use them both.
D1 players (even ones like Chris Otule) dominate against most High School players.
With this said, I can't even pretend to know what is going on with Durley.
Quote from: tower912 on January 20, 2012, 09:56:45 AMI'd have taken Anderson. I'd have taken that big at UWGB. They don't have to be stars. The bigs have to keep other bigs from being stars. Just be able to occupy the other and not get dominated, giving us a chance. Otule excels at this.
+17 gazillion
Maybe the best summation out of what we need out of project guys, and why big projects are worth taking fliers on.
I would think Durely deserves to see some action and not waste away on the bench. Surely there were other high schools that would love to have him play for them. Would like to hear the coach talk about the situation.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on January 20, 2012, 10:50:36 AM
If I were a coach, and I had Oden and Otule (both D1 caliber centers), they would both be playing at the same time.
If you have 2 D1 players at the same position (at the same age), you'll figure out a way to use them both.
D1 players (even ones like Chris Otule) dominate against most High School players.
With this said, I can't even pretend to know what is going on with Durley.
Someone was a Houston Rockets fan in the 80s. lol
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 19, 2012, 07:24:09 PM
Murray, you got any eligibility left?
Yeah, but due to Osteoporosis, I've dropped from 6'10" to just under 5'8".
It's a bitch when everything shrinks proportionally, aina?
As of late last year, from the video I saw, with Durley and Ridley playing together he was not even in the mix on plays and backs away from the action. When the ball did roll to him he made a nice pass. He did make it up and down the floor but seemed to have no confidence at all. What happened to the double-double prediction this season for him? He is really big and solid,though!
Doesn't sound good.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 20, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
It's a bitch when everything shrinks proportionally, aina?
Osteoporosis wasn't a problem there, brother!