Here is a comparison of Jamil's stats so far this year v. JFB's entire sophomore year:
Jamil: 4.8/3.3 in 18.9 mpg 42.9 FG%
Butler: 5.6/3.9 in 19.6 mpg 51.4 FG%
Not that far off. Hopefully we will see continuous improvement like we saw when Butler was a sophomore...and that he takes that next step next year.
This makes me feel better. At times you can really see the flashes with Wilson and think "why can't he make that next step?"
Some similarities are position, a good mid-range jump shot, rebounding, and good free throw shooting. I think Jimmy will always be a better ball handler with the ability to drive by defenders.
Looking forward to Wilson's progression. We will really need him to improve as this season goes on and especially next year and the year after.
I really like Jamil's game. He is very athletic. He seems more like 6'8". Would also like to see him drive to the hoop more. He seems comfortable dribbling. He shows leadership as he is very vocal at times during the games. He's a winner and like Mayo, glad he plays for MU.
One other thing to note is that Butler was clearly the 6th man his Sophomore year whereas Wilson isn't quite in that role yet. I don't recall who the 7th man was back in the day but I have to think this year's team is much deeper. I'm kind of thinking that this tells me that Wilson's game is somewhat ahead of Jimmy's at this point in their eligibility because Buzz has had other options this year, certainly before Chris got hurt.
The FG percentage is much worse for JW. What is it with MU getting guys that can't shoot? At least Wilson's form looks better than Blue's, so maybe there's some hope.
Quote from: jsglow on January 15, 2012, 11:03:54 AMI don't recall who the 7th man was back in the day but I have to think this year's team is much deeper.
7th was usually Acker. Early on it was Cooby, but he ended up with quite a few DNPs by the end. Also recall Patrick Hazel getting time early but that declining by conference play as well. That was another reason the injury to James was so crippling. That team just didn't have the depth to replace anyone, let alone its starting PG.
Quote from: godzilla on January 15, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
The FG percentage is much worse for JW. What is it with MU getting guys that can't shoot? At least Wilson's form looks better than Blue's, so maybe there's some hope.
Butler, Novak, Diener, etc... MU has had plenty of guys who were excellent shooters over the years. Butler's data is a bit skewed vs Jamil as many of his shots early on were mostly drives and close-in to the basket. He didn't fully develop his nice touch and penchant to shoot threes until his last year and half at MU.
Jamil hits a very good number of 12-17 footers, and his shot looks good. Add in his long frame and he's going to be a very nice dependable player for MU over the next couple years.
Btw -Maybe you just use scoop for venting, but your posts are becoming unbearable and tired. You find a negative every time. Scroll through your posting history and there are 37 negative ones... zero positive. Sad part is I think you actually are a MU fan. Lighten up.
No more feeding the trolls for me.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 15, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
Butler's data is a bit skewed vs Jamil as many of his shots early on were mostly drives and close-in to the basket. He didn't fully develop his nice touch and penchant to shoot threes until his last year and half at MU.
Couldn't agree more. Godzilla doesn't understand the concept of sample size. When Butler started playing as a Sophomore, he didn't have the confidence to take a shot outside of 6 feet. He attempted 4 three point FG's all season - he made zero.
Wilson has attempted 10 already, and has hit 3. Obviously if you attempt more outside shots, your FG% should be lower.
Jamil is going to be a good scorer for Marquette over the next 2.5 years, and Buzz needs to find ways to get him points in the paint. I do like that he has the ability to hit the outside shot - but his value lies in the paint right now. Outside of Gardner, there is no one that can consistently get points from the post. Wilson should really be able to help us in that capacity, with his length and athleticism.
Quote from: godzilla on January 15, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
The FG percentage is much worse for JW. What is it with MU getting guys that can't shoot? At least Wilson's form looks better than Blue's, so maybe there's some hope.
you should watch the games. as sophomores, JW probably has a better shot than JB. he's being asked to do more than JB offensively, especially against the zone. what has impressed me most about JW has been his ability to play as strong as he had in the post and on the boards. i figured JB was a tough SOB coming into MU, and i knew JW was not. in his 1.5 years at MU he has bulked up and embraced the role of banging with the big boys in the BEAST. his ability to play from the outside in is much greater than someone like Maymon, yet he hasn't complained, and has developed a part of his game that will serve him well in his future (just ask Jimmy and Zar). as he becomes comfortable with BEAST basketball and has a summer to work on his game after experiencing a year in the BEAST i think the sky is the limit for him. i would be very interested to get JW's take on how the differences in the player development at Oregon (under Kent) compared to MU. buzz seems to develop his SF/PF players very well.
Comparing shooting percentages between Jamil and Butler isn't fair. Butler's sophomore year he rarely, and I mean almost never shot the ball from further than 3 ft. Jamil has been apt to take jumpers that Butler never would have (it wasn't part of his role).
The big difference between the two is lateral quickness (favoring Butler by a large margin) and explosiveness (favoring Jamil by a large margin).
It'll be interesting to follow his development. Jimmy was a young sophomore and Jamil is an old sophomore so you never know how things will develop.
If you go back to Butler's soph season, he didn't make a field goal outside the paint until the BigEast tourney against Villanova.